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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Yes, but they are not eligible for duty in a combat capacity or zone.
    I would hope even if operating in auxiliary capacities that they would be deemed to have good judgment, which is the quality we hope for in voters. It's also a quality exhibited by successfully employed people, including those working part-time or during summer breaks from school.

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    The exact age is of course ultimately arbitrary, it's like all such artificial lines that are really continuums, it doesn't really exist in reality, that at one point you are too immature and then wham you aren't anymore. We just have to make some rule is all.

    But these are the people that for some reason we think are wise enough to not only choose a college and a major (oh yea the type of thing they'll be deciding by 17) but for some reason sign up for buckets of debt to pay for it as well. And if they are still paying for it in their 40s, oh well should have known better then. Really?

    And btw it isn't that young people are stupid or even reckless and irresponsible, some are, many aren't, and the same can be said for those over 18, but they do seriously lack experience in how the world works in many cases. That's for real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    But these are the people that for some reason we think are wise enough to not only choose a college and a major (oh yea the type of thing they'll be deciding by 17) but for some reason sign up for buckets of debt to pay for it as well. And if they are still paying for it in their 40s, oh well should have known better then. Really?
    Do they give student loans to kids too young to sign a binding contract in California?
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    I don't know, the truth is many people will NOT be 18 by the time they start college, depending on birthdays (and that's not even assuming they skipped a grade).

    And they will CERTAINLY NOT be 18 when they are deciding on a college and thus frankly deciding on a major expense, when the purchasing decision is being made. Parents may sign for them and will give them advice, but a lot of people have parents who don't act in their long term best interest is the thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    But these are the people that for some reason we think are wise enough to not only choose a college and a major (oh yea the type of thing they'll be deciding by 17) but for some reason sign up for buckets of debt to pay for it as well. And if they are still paying for it in their 40s, oh well should have known better then. Really?
    If they make a bad college major choice it's usually because they've been pumped full of bad advice by "helpful" adults who are often basing their advice on which careers seem to be hot at the moment or which careers are most prestigious, with no regard to what a teenager's biggest talents or interests are.

    And if they take on too much debt it's because their parents and relatives and teachers, who are all older and more experienced, never taught them the facts of life regarding debt, compounding interest, and living within your means.

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    If they make a bad college major choice it's usually because they've been pumped full of bad advice by "helpful" adults who are often basing their advice on which careers seem to be hot at the moment or which careers are most prestigious, with no regard to what a teenager's biggest talents or interests are.
    That's really almost a best case scenario, the adults may be basing their advice on what careers were hot 10, 20, 30 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    That's really almost a best case scenario, the adults may be basing their advice on what careers were hot 10, 20, 30 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeParker View Post
    I've got one word for you, just one word: PLASTICS!

    If only college was as cheap now as it was back then.

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    So they want to give 16 year olds the right to vote, yet at the same time, they can no longer own property, like cars? I do agree, age has nothing to do with maturity, we all probably know someone we would trust their judgement more then someone older.

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    I hope 16 and 17 years old do get the right to vote. Human lives may be saved as young people tend to be liberal - meaning better chances of life saving aid being implemented. Rob

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