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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    I didnít realize your state was one of the few that didnít pay into SS. It would definitely be a mistake at your age. Nevada is the same way but I donít think I came out worse because I had a fair number of years out of the job market. Lots of politics, who you know, etc in state service also.
    Maine is the same way with SS and teaching; it's a big problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    yes. I distinctly remember our Head honcho saying to the administrative staff something like “I know you all can make so much more money elsewhere so I appreciate you all being here” but only our IT guys could, and perhaps the finance people. He said this to be kind and complementary as he always was, but I don’t think it’s especially kind to encourage delusion.

    I remember the public employee debacle up north there. That’s pretty interesting that so many people thought they would see support from taxpayers at their refusal to fund their own pension.


    I am super Duper happy having a pension from my city for however long it lasts. It is the critical mass amount of monthly income that allows us to be not at all worried about our finances. If it went away tomorrow we would still be fine because we have multi prong ways to access money, but boy does the pension act as a relief valve.
    What I found in local government was that the IT staff who maintained their skills and certs and built up a decent resume often did leave for substantially more money. The ones who just sort of coasted with outdated skills clung on for dear life until they could retire. It was pretty easy to identify who fell into which category.

    I agree that a pension can be a valuable thing, especially if you donít particularly enjoy managing money or have trouble summoning up the discipline needed to save on your own. But I think people sometimes overestimate itís importance.

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    The boss offered any customer who can get us a new employee a steak dinner. One man has already referred two people, one of whom was interviewed the other day. I am cautiously optimistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    The boss offered any customer who can get us a new employee a steak dinner. One man has already referred two people, one of whom was interviewed the other day. I am cautiously optimistic.
    Personally I'd make it a steak dinner for both the referrer and the new employee. No one's going to refer someone they wouldn't be willing to break bread with at an event like that. And it'd be a great opportunity to build relationships all the way around.

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    Today I heard Keene, NH advertising on the radio for police officers and other jobs in the police department. I have never heard a public sector entity go on the air to try to recruit employees before. No mention was made of having to attend the police academy, just being a citizen who wants to serve the community. The spot also talked about career paths including becoming a detective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dado potato View Post
    In my neck of the woods, bar owners are having a high turnover of waitstaff. In their view, standards must be maintained. They will hire freely, but if an employee is not able to perform up to standards, he or she is fired. There has been some grumbling from customers, disappointed with service or food preparation.
    These bar owners/managers would not be able to staff any position in Phoenix right now. Lowly paid folks are taking full advantage of the sudden leverage they have. I've had two prior restaurants I worked at call me asking if I could even work just one shift a week. It's even more intense than the bonanza of tipped hospitality jobs available at the end of the Clinton Years.

    For myself the only way I'd take a food service job is wait tables or be homeless. It's just too much insanity for too little reward. Problem is - economy wide workers are realizing that too many jobs overall are too much insanity, too little reward. SO, who is again waiting tables tells me that new hires are quitting mid shift. Or new hires are realistically asking for too much and either never show up after being hired or just walking away from f and b period.

    I'll say it again....I really am fortunate. There are times I feel almost guilty as without the pandemic created job market, it would have been much harder for me to switch industries. I'm not so dazzled by my abilities that I don't understand this. I just tell myself I've paid and paid and paid my dues. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by happystuff View Post
    Unfortunately, a college degree is no longer a guarantee that you will get a job, let alone one that is "enjoyed".
    You speak truth here, HS. I can't even begin to believe how much less expensive college was say 30 years ago. There are no guarantees, and couple that with large amounts of debt to attend college to begin with as one is starting out - not anything I'd sign up for.

    I am not surprised when I hear that many.young men are going the trades route. I salute them, I really do, for getting an actual skill - they are smart enough to realize that no employer is going to train them these days, and they seem to understand the concept ot large amounts of debt with no guarantee is not a good deal. Rob

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    Trade school can be expensive too, but not like college. A coworker's son paid $30,000 to go to diesel mechanic school and now he earns $40 an hour.

    Nothing like the nurses though making $60 an hour straight and $90 an hour with overtime. They have really made out financially in this pandemic and that's only a two year degree.

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    Iíve often thought it would be a good idea to have some king of leaving exam for undergraduates covering some of the basic skills employers might be interested in: math, communication, logic, etc. I know educators seem in general to be hostile to standardized tests, so it would be a long, hard political fight. You would hear a lot about ďthe real purpose of educationĒ and ďequityĒ, but I think it would be valuable for comparing job candidates and their schools. Certainly more objective than the various surveys you see published.

    You could make it voluntary and let employers draw their own conclusions about the scores presence or absence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I’ve often thought it would be a good idea to have some king of leaving exam for undergraduates covering some of the basic skills employers might be interested in: math, communication, logic, etc. I know educators seem in general to be hostile to standardized tests, so it would be a long, hard political fight. You would hear a lot about “the real purpose of education” and “equity”, but I think it would be valuable for comparing job candidates and their schools. Certainly more objective than the various surveys you see published.

    You could make it voluntary and let employers draw their own conclusions about the scores presence or absence.
    I know some employers, themselves, used to test applicants. At least, I have applied for a couple of jobs and have had to take an exam/test of one kind or another.
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