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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    I have heard that iPhone cameras are the new "confessionals." They are what hold people accountable. Very interesting trend.There is a lot not good about using media 24/7, but OTOH, if it causes people to pay attention and be a witness, that may be a good outcome.



    Good for you, Terry, for being concerned and involved.
    :Plus about one trillion! Rob

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    My oldest son stopped over and I told him what happened. He said that if I ever see a situation escalating and the police acting inappropriately in this type of situation I can always call the non emergency number to report it and ask for a supervisor to be sent. I am guessing that fifth police car was a supervisor who broke up the situation and sent them all on their way. Hopefully my walks will resume being peaceful. We really need to do better as a country to help people with MI. He is not the first person I have seen that appeared to be delusional and homeless. Nevada in general lacks adequate human services.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    My oldest son stopped over and I told him what happened. He said that if I ever see a situation escalating and the police acting inappropriately in this type of situation I can always call the non emergency number to report it and ask for a supervisor to be sent. I am guessing that fifth police car was a supervisor who broke up the situation and sent them all on their way. Hopefully my walks will resume being peaceful. We really need to do better as a country to help people with MI. He is not the first person I have seen that appeared to be delusional and homeless. Nevada in general lacks adequate human services.
    Did Nevada expand Medicaid? This person sounds like someone who might be able to get counseling and meds in Arizona under Medicaid - but good luck with housing! Rents are going going going up up up in Phoenix and now the median price for a home is just over 400K. And with the eviction moratorium ending we will have more homeless folks nationwide and more people sinking into mental illness due to the insanity of modern life. Ay carumba is all I can say. Rob

    PS Came back to add that with meds, many such people can work. Maybe not each and every one - but many. Housing seems to be the missing link for these folks to participate in society.....and almost nationwide housing is just getting too damned expensive. Rob

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    We had a recent incident in our area where the police killed a mentally ill woman:
    https://www.boston.com/news/local-ne...ooting-saugus/

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosarugosa View Post
    We had a recent incident in our area where the police killed a mentally ill woman:
    https://www.boston.com/news/local-ne...ooting-saugus/
    Unfortunately, when someone comes after a police officer with lethal force, a police officer is going to use lethal force to stop the attack. “Could have maced, could have shot her in the toe” isnt realistic. Coulda shoulda woulda is monday morning quarterbacking anyway.

    People who attack police officers do not get special dispensation if they have mental illness.

    As for Teacher Terry’s situation, I don’t call police if anyone with odd, non threatening behavior is hanging out in our public park.

    I DO call cops if a person exhibiting non-socially compliant behavior is hanging out on my block or in the nearby business district, seemingly not moving through the area, but planted there.

    Of course, seldom do cops come. Recording calls for police service in our neighborhood matters, though.

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    Back when every protester and his brother were rioting in Ferguson, Missouri, a few days after Michael Brown was shot, a mentally ill man came after police officers at a Quick Trip here in my city. That did not go well for the guy because he was wielding a knife.

    Officers are not required to just “take it” in knife wounds in order to save someone’s life, take it until they can get the guy on the ground and cuffed. They are not required now, nor should they be. When a cop says “stop” or “hands up” or “get on the ground” and you do not do that, there are inevitable results. If you hold a weapon, those results are usually serious.

    And it is unfortunate that all kinds of reasons exist where people do not obey orders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I DO call cops if a person exhibiting non-socially compliant behavior is hanging out on my block or in the nearby business district, seemingly not moving through the area, but planted there.
    As did someone, apparently, in the OP's "Police Incident" post.

    I'm still not sure why the police encounter in question was labeled that way. From the little information shared it would appear to me that someone called police on a mentally ill person in the area. We don't know how it was reported but we do know that more than one officer responded. The responding officers then apparently spent some time interacting with the mentally ill person before seemingly determining he was not a threat to himself or others. Again, with little to no information disclosed it would appear that they then called a supervisor or perhaps some other specialist officer for guidance on whether it would be prudent to allow the person to go on his way or perhaps transport the person to a medical facility for a more advanced screening. I would suspect that to be standard operating procedure in a call such as this because I can guarantee those responding officers do not want to be personally responsible for the fallout if that person were allowed to continue on his way and then harmed someone after their contact with him, especially once lookie loos had spent a part of their day observing, recording and critiquing their encounter.

    It sounds like a routine police encounter to me, one that probably occurs dozens of times a day in Reno. I wonder if they're all then presented as some variation of 'Courageous bystanders use video to prevent police from harming innocent, powerless person with disabilities'?
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    It sounds like a routine police encounter to me, one that probably occurs dozens of times a day in Reno. I wonder if they're all then presented as some variation of 'Courageous bystanders use video to prevent police from harming innocent, powerless person with disabilities'?
    They have a large body of anecdata to back up their heroic aspirations. I guess there’s never a social worker around when you need one, so we have to rely on the thin line of video vigilantes.

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    There recently was a case with a LEO getting 25 years in prison in Huntsville, Alabama. The former officer shot and killed a suicidal man who held a gun to.his head but never pointed it to the former officer nor his partner. His partner was a female cop who to her credit was working on DEescalating the situation. This woman even testified against her partner at the trial.

    This happened in Alabama, folks. Can't get much more Conservative than Alabama! Anyone wishing to google - the imprisoned cop's name is Ben Darby. I am floored that in Conservative Alabama, prosecutors/DA's office gave no free pass to this former officer and aggresively prosecuted this case. Things are changing, folks. Things are indeed changing. Rob

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    About the above situation, what prosecutors say led them to prosecute - this former officer Ben Darby - he pulled the trigger 11 seconds after arriving on the scene and ignoring his partner's wish to continue deescalating the situation. Rob

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