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    Should prostitution be legal?

    I used to be 100 against prostitution and am still not thrilled with the concept - though I had an experience in Mexico (minds out of gutter LOL) that led me to think a bit differently. I was offered the services of a woman (obviously her gaydar was not up to speed) and I just said my standard line when offered drugs or prostitution in Mexico - "I'm not here to break any laws."

    This woman told me that prostitution is legal in Mexico. That night at my hotel I googled and it turns out this is true. When I saw the same woman a day later, I told her I found out she was right and she told me something that changed my mind. She said that she had no other option as she was unskilled and there was no realistic way for her to become skilled and sneaking into the US was not an option as she had already been deported. So it was this or do something cartel related or steal. She found selling her body the least awful of all her options though she was not proud of it. She also told me that she was highly religious but believed because of her lack of options, God would understand.

    Anyhow, to my point, I'm not thrilled with the idea of prostitution but I understand better that in some cases, there are no other real or immediate options. What do you think? Rob

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    The libertarian point of view is that women (few men because dxck is free, pardon my bluntness) should be able to make a living selling access to whatever they have. I am pretty much here.

    The paternalistic point of view, which covers the right and the left, wants to see restrictions for their pet ideas.

    It is, of course, legal in Parts of the state of Nevada and has been for some time.

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    In rural Nevada it’s legal and safe because the women have frequent health checks.

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    I read posts on the “sugarbaby” sub reddit. I think a lot of the men and women there are fooling themselves and are searching for the elusive Holy Grail of a classic sugar baby relationship which usually means young woman, older prosperous man, some degree of financial support for the woman.
    But that said, these relationships do exist. That would not have been anything I was interested in as a young person because Was too immature to be interested in excessive pleasing of someone else in my personal relationships. I suppose if I had a daughter who is savvy in that regard I could theoretically give her my blessing in going after these relationships, I just think that they’re generally not very successful. Spending time chasing them is impractical. For reasonably rich and well off men, and for a girls who are super cute in the 8 to 10 range, it probably works.

    For Uber Rich “whales “as they call them on the sugar baby sub reddit, those guys don’t find their own dates, people do that for them. Or they run into women in their many events about town.

    Speaking of this issue, I saw the most astonishing documentary about an Olympian woman in sports who was married with child and who, get this, was one of the highest rated “escorts” in Las Vegas. I’ll go off and find the name of that documentary. She was actually mentally ill during that period, but boy did she turn that mental illness into a focused success of sorts. Very weird.

    here’s the info about Olympian-turned-escort/call girl
    https://people.com/sports/olympic-ru...gas-call-girl/

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    It's not an option I would have chosen, but I don't think any good comes from criminalizing it.

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    The sugar daddy thing repulses me--it's basically prostitution called something else--and I've always hated the idea of living off of someone else anyway. I think overt hooking is much more honorable. But again, individuals have choices. (If my theoretical daughter were involved, I'd despair of my parenting and have her head examined.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jane v2.0 View Post
    The sugar daddy thing repulses me--it's basically prostitution called something else--and I've always hated the idea of living off of someone else anyway. I think overt hooking is much more honorable. But again, individuals have choices. (If my theoretical daughter were involved, I'd despair of my parenting and have her head examined.)
    Oh I disagree, the legitimate sugar relationships that exist are RELATIONSHIPS that go beyond transactional interactions.Women and men get something out of it besides money and sex: companionship for fun and socializing, stable opposite sex validation, sometimes mentoring, sometimes enlightening experiences across generations.

    My daughters wouldn’t be sugar baby material anyway. They’d be too nerdy, introspective, and not especially mature. I always used to joke with my friends and say yeah that’s why I want to adopt a child from China, because it would be a good chance that girl would be smart, pretty, and athletic, unlike my own progeny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jane v2.0 View Post
    The sugar daddy thing repulses me--it's basically prostitution called something else--and I've always hated the idea of living off of someone else anyway. I think overt hooking is much more honorable. But again, individuals have choices.
    Having a sugar daddy and keeping him happy is better than prostitution because you only have one sex partner instead of a different random guy(s) every night, which reduces the odds of you getting VD or going to bed with a guy who seems ok but ends up beating and abusing you during the night. It's also better because you and he learn how to turn each other on the most easily, and you learn how much and how long you should tease him before giving him what he wants. That creates a more pleasurable experience for both of you, compared with sleeping with a bunch of different guys.

    And even though it was very risque at the time old movies have absolutely touted the sugar daddy relationship. Examples:
    Girl: "Are those diamonds real."
    Mae West: "Yes"
    Girl: "Oh, my goodness."
    Mae West: "Goodness had nothing to do with it, dearie."

    And Let's not forget "Diamonds are a Girl's Best Friend" https://youtu.be/knLd8bfeWtI?t=123
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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
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    My daughters wouldn’t be sugar baby material anyway. They’d be too nerdy, introspective, and not especially mature. I always used to joke with my friends and say yeah that’s why I want to adopt a child from China, because it would be a good chance that girl would be smart, pretty, and athletic, unlike my own progeny.
    I would certainly hope to produce nerdy daughters--I would be overjoyed to have a daughter from the Rachel Maddow mold. My poor mother was looking for a social butterfly--sorry to disappoint, Mom! (I share your estimation of Chinese adoptees, in general).

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    If it were on a ballot I would vote against it based purely on moral principles and a sign of social devolution, but under the premise of my "body my choice" I could picture a strong argument in favor of legalization.

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