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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    I prefer electric heat because it's clean, inexpensive, and doesn't require a CO detector. Also, it doesn't just randomly explode, catch fire, or suffocate you in your sleep. It doesn't require tank trucks or chain saws. It's hugely popular up here. Virtue signaling? Ridiculous.
    I don't smell my oil, it's cheaper than electric, and you buy a CO detector once as part of a combination with your smoke detector. If my electric were much cheaper or subsidized I would reconsider this. I am not required to be home when the oil is delivered and have found a company that is quick and reliable. I place my order online with a credit card. It is very easy. But I do live in a fairly populated area where there are numerous companies so there is competition to keep the price reasonable.

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    Electric power is predominant here--so much so that the legislature is trying to phase out most other forms of energy in the next 25 years. We'll see how that works.

    I grew up in an older house with oil heat, and it was OK except refills were inconvenient then. I wouldn't have natural gas if I had any choice in the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    Electric power is predominant here--so much so that the legislature is trying to phase out most other forms of energy in the next 25 years. We'll see how that works.
    My all-electric home’s power is a mixture of hydro and locally generated solar. I have a ~40kW share of a local solar coop which covers over an averaged year the majority of my electric power consumption. I also burn several cords of wood, from my own land and processed on-site, for peak heating.

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    I have a perfect roof for solar, minus two or three big trees. I'll leave that gift to the next owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    So as usual things are worse than expected, and to avert catastrophe we must take more aggressive action to stop climate change from accelerating even more. One recommendation is everyone eat a plant based diet. Are you in?
    Yes, I'm in. A silver lining to meat being more expensive? Maybe Americans will eat more rice and beans and veggies.

    When the Mexican Peso collapsed in 1995 I think it was? Many Mexicans were forced to become vegetarian at least part time.....and other than for diabetes, the population as a whole became healthier. If meat is going to be a luxury item now I hope for similar better health outcomes in the US. We'll see. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    Yes, I'm in. A silver lining to meat being more expensive? Maybe Americans will eat more rice and beans and veggies.
    Rice production is responsible for a noticeable chunk of the yearly human-aided greenhouse gas emissions...

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    One thing I miss about Portland.....the cheap utility bills. I understand they are no longer so cheap but my gas bill was around $17 a month and my electric was under $20. Part of the reason was after all those years in Phoenix I wanted to live in chilly rooms.

    I set my thermostat at 55F - and this had nothing to do with money. I just had to experience chilly rooms. I went overboard with secondhand sweaters from Value Village (a thrift shop chain, I believe in some states operating under the name of Savers).and really came to love cold rooms.

    I can see why old movie stars such as Joan Crawford and Cary Grant wanted to film in cold surroundings - cold weather, for me personally anyway, is equal to drinking energy drinks and no crash later. I am much more productive in cold. So I live in Phoenix, AZ - life happens. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Rice production is responsible for a noticeable chunk of the yearly human-aided greenhouse gas emissions...
    Still healthier than meat methinks. I will look into rice production and greenhouse gas emissions - I did not know this. So, in other words, much like life. Easy answers are few and far between. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Rice production is responsible for a noticeable chunk of the yearly human-aided greenhouse gas emissions...
    Not to mention the arsenic...

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    I had electric heat in upstate New York and Nevada. It costs a fortune in these states. We had 2 floors and would keep the heat upstairs at 50 until a few hours before bedtime and then turn downstairs down when going to bed. In 2012 our electric bill was 500 keeping a 1400 sq ft house at 68. Then we turned down everything to 55 except our bedroom when we went to bed. It was miserable in the morning until it warmed up.

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