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    Musk, Twitter and free speech

    What is allowable, in your opinion, as free speech?

    With the purchase of twitter, I guess we are soon going to see this tested, as one mans idea of free speech may or may not align with the constitution. Where do you think this will go. I'm truly uncertain if anyone can counter the spam bots, hate speech such as threatening the life of a politician you don't agree with, and so on. And is removing them censorship?

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    The First Amendment does not apply to Twitter, it is not the government.

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    I see no reason for anyone to complain about restrictions of free speech on twitter, as it (free speech, not twitter!) has just been removed from schools in many states. Personally, if twitter does not keep some sort of rules against hate speech and outright lies meant to inflame, I'd just as soon see IT banned, along with any totally unregulated social media. I have not that power, and it's just as well - I'm quite aware I could easily become a tyrant (for all the best causes, of course...)

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    I doubt very much that Twitter will become an 'anything goes' outlet, I suspect it will just become more balanced. It's been interesting these past few days seeing journalists decry the concept of free speech, it's all very Orwellian.
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    Musk has said he will reveal the algorithms to help stop spam bots.

    I am very happy he has bought Twitter, and everyone I follow on Twitter is also.

    A lot of the criticisms of him are invalid. For example, he is not a white supremacist. He left South Africa rather than be conscripted into an army enforcing apartheid. I also know other white South African emigres, including one in an interracial marriage, and none of them are racist. To paint them all is bigots is itself racist.

    I think some people don't get Musk because he's autistic, and interested in ideas rather than accumulating wealth. (He does not have a house and sleeps at friends'.) For others the opposition is political.

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    A few billionaires owning everything is really not great. Elon Musk is like Trump a cult of personality. So the Elon Musk fan club is a cult really, it's *very* cult-like.
    Trees don't grow on money

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    A few billionaires owning everything is really not great. Elon Musk is like Trump a cult of personality. So the Elon Musk fan club is a cult really, it's *very* cult-like.
    Having the Saudis own Twitter before was so much better, because they're not quite as rich.

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    A problem I have observed with Twitter over the past few years is that Twitter *does* ban, or what can be worse, shadow-ban users without any explanation, warning, or appeal mechanism. I believe these bannings are done algorithmically without human involvement.


    Perhaps Musk will fix this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    A few billionaires owning everything is really not great. Elon Musk is like Trump a cult of personality. So the Elon Musk fan club is a cult really, it's *very* cult-like.
    What have the Romans ever given us?

    Well, what about Paypal? Online mapping/routing tools? Electric cars and charging infrastructure? Advanced battery technology? Spaceships? High speed affordable satellite Internet service to the world? Giant tunnel boring machines? Man-machine neural interfaces? Flamethrowers?

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    the Saudi's didn't seem to do it any harm. Probably lots of people will just move to Tik Tok, owned by the Chinese government.
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