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    I guess if anyone could actually be considered "pro-abortion," it would be me. I've always thought discussions around the development stage of the fetus and whether it was a human being were irrelevant. Even if it's reading a book in there, it's still up to the woman whether it continues or not as far as I'm concerned.
    I saw this argument recently and I thought it was a good one, including some points similar to those raised by JP above:
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    rosa, what a clear explanation of body autonomy as it relates to this discussion, thanks for sharing. As an aside: It totally floors me that people who won't get vaccinated, or allow their children to be vaccinated, think they should be permitted to tell women what they can and cannot do with their uterus. But if their kids die from a disease they could have protected that child against, it's "God's will" and thus fine and dandy.

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    Here are interesting data from Gallup over the course of a few years: Those who identify as "pro-life" vs "pro-choice."

    Draw your own conclusions.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/244709/...ic-tables.aspx
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    As people age and don't need to worry about pregnancy seems to me they quit thinking choice is important. It'd be interesting to see if the 50 and above had the same opinion 30 years ago....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nswef View Post
    As people age and don't need to worry about pregnancy seems to me they quit thinking choice is important. It'd be interesting to see if the 50 and above had the same opinion 30 years ago....
    My opinion on this issue has never wavered. This is true for all my boomer friends and relatives, as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    My opinion on this issue has never wavered. This is true for all my boomer friends and relatives, as well.
    Same. With one set of notable exceptions - my Aunt some years back suddenly became a "quiverfull" fundamentalist Christian, and her opinion changed massively. Luckily her kids managed to escape the worst of it.

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    The only time I've seen the tide turn was when someone I knew was all about pro-life, until his son wound up involved in a pregnancy with a girlfriend with whom the son had no interest in a long-term relationship, and neither did she. All of a sudden "pro-choice" looked pretty good to the family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Same. With one set of notable exceptions - my Aunt some years back suddenly became a "quiverfull" fundamentalist Christian, and her opinion changed massively. Luckily her kids managed to escape the worst of it.
    OMG--Quiverfull. Shades of the Duggars.

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    I've probably become much more pro-choice in time, because one comes to accept a lot can go wrong in life, including birth control, though it's not something I've experienced. I've never been pro-natalist. And also stable lasting relationships seem so rare, but you don't want to bring a kid into any other type maybe.

    Gen X was maybe raised a lot more culturally conservative than boomers, because just the times, it was a period of great cultural backlash and so on. But that's just how we were raised. On economics, it probably splits, though the economics have been hard enough not to make one think all is well. Younger Gen X have experienced all the same stuff as millenials there. A part of life we have experienced a lot going wrong in So boomers are by far the conservative ones there.

    Abortions have become much easier with pills now supposedly, so there is no way they won't happen, they'll just be a culture of intimidation with women buying pills on the black market rather than talking to a doctor for a prescription.
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    Rosa, reading a book made me laugh). All the older women I know still care about this issue.

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