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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan;412691[B
    [/B]]What makes you think he took them while leaving the White House? I'll bet even President Biden takes documents, or perhaps copies of original documents to his personal home on the weekends and maybe leaves some there. I'd be surprised if he doesn't have a SCIF in Delaware too. mount

    Everyone seems to be approaching this from their preferred narrative without thinking through, or even considering other possibilities. That results in sloppy reasoning.
    It doesn’t matter when trump took the records. Why did he have them, period?

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    Republicans are so completely hooked on defending the indefensible that that idiot Rand Paul thinks we need to repeal the espionage act if trump is guilty of it. Because you know, everyone has a first amendment right to steal and keep nuclear secrets. Or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    It's interesting that Eric Trump admitted to the world that when Daddy was president he weaponized federal law enforcement against his enemies.
    Let me get this straight (as the husband would say no pun intended). About taking the 5th - is this not meant to avoid self incrimination? Meaning if there is nothing to hide, there is no reason to take the 5th? My legal understanding - as you'all know by now - is all about everyday survival in an increasingly extremely unequal country.

    Point? The implications of Trump's taking the 5th, especially so often (in one sitting?) are beyond my legal grasp. Those of you who DO understand, ummmmm......perhaps some gratitude for understanding non survival based law? I mean no snark here - such comprehension is beyond millions of Americans. It is certainly very new and perplexing/bewildering to me.

    That all said, has Trump hurt himself here legally? I really have no idea. Others here are much better versed in non-survival law. *though could it not be argued that this entire situation involves political survival - survival of a different kind?

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    So sick already of hearing about and discussions about the Hitler wannabe. Just wish he would disappear! Life was so much better with him out of the picture!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    That combativeness/vindictiveness seems to be a hallmark of authoritarian types, like Ron DeSantis, Vladimir Putin, Richard Nixon, etc.
    Also Thank God former Plillipine president Rodrigo Duterte, Victor Orban of Hungary, and what's his first name Erdogan of Turkey. There's more than just a few out there. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    So sick already of hearing about the Hitler wannabe. Just wish he would disappear!
    I could not agree more, frugal-one. Rob

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    I am truly hoping that the GOP has enough common sense not to nominate Trump. Ditto for the Dems not to nominate Biden. Faced with a choice of these two again, I'd be forced to write in Pedro Almodovar, a Spanish film director who made my favorite movie of all time. This would of course throw away my vote - but technically I DID vote so I have the right to complain. Let's hope for different candidates on BOTH sides!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    I am truly hoping that the GOP has enough common sense not to nominate Trump. Ditto for the Dems not to nominate Biden.

    Rob
    on this we can agree. So why don’t you use some of your activism time to campaign for a half way reasonable Democratic candidate. Would probably be at this point just about anyone who’s not a Biden. I don’t know if I would vote for the vice president against Trump. I do not know. I really really would have a hard time doing it. But I might. But please don’t put me in that position, get someone else on the ticket besides her.

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    What exactly is wrong with President Biden? Is it that the right has permanently besmirched him with their baseless claims of election fraud?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    What exactly is wrong with President Biden? Is it that the right has permanently besmirched him with their baseless claims of election fraud?
    He gets too much socialist legislation passed. I mean geez, what kind of ugly socialist would want to help veterans who were victims of burn pits, or deprive insulin manufacturers of obscene profits on the backs of diabetics. Or worst of all, increase the IRS’s ability to go after wealthy tax cheats. Oh the horror!

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