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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    The FDA actually didn't follow standard procedures, otherwise the vaccines would still be awaiting approval. It normally takes years to get FDA approvals on new products.
    Just because they worked faster doesn’t mean they ignored their procedures. Can you point to something that says they did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Just because they worked faster doesn’t mean they ignored their procedures. Can you point to something that says they did?
    The last phase of the approval process involve prolonged studies to show that the benefits of a vaccine are greater than it's risk, along with a prolonged review of the manufacturing process to ensure proper quality controls are in place and enforced. Those actions took place after the vaccines were authorized for emergency use and before full approval was granted at a later time.

    While it's not the first time that's been done, it's not standard procedure.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    The last phase of the approval process involve prolonged studies to show that the benefits of a vaccine are greater than it's risk, along with a prolonged review of the manufacturing process to ensure proper quality controls are in place and enforced. Those actions took place after the vaccines were authorized for emergency use and before full approval was granted at a later time.

    While it's not the first time that's been done, it's not standard procedure.
    Interesting that trump was screechy about how the fda was too slow and now people like you are trying to scream about them being to quick. Hilarious. But predictable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post
    Emergency use declarations are not political. Very smart and experienced physicians give info which is scrutinized by the FDA. They weigh the evidence to decide the risks
    And benefits. Mrna technology was developed in the 60's and 70's. Often technologies remain stagnant until an application comes along that will benefit a lot of people.

    My husband is in a clinical trial in a major cancer center. His MD was presenting to the FDA last week. The trial has been so successful they are anticipating it will fast track to level two. He is in level one. Formerly his diagnosis would have been a death sentence. Every single person who completed the trial is alive and has no evidence of cancer.

    Also the Mrna technology was in trialsfor cancer patients. For some diagnoses it has shown great promise.

    This is not about politics. It is about trusting hard working dedicated scientists and physicians whose sole mission is to save lives. I spend days in waiting rooms and see the hope, pain and resilience of human spirit. Keyboard warriors can post whatever they want, but I 100% trust my husbands physicians. Their intelligence, experience and dedication is remarkable.


    If vaccines had not been fast tracked imagine how many more people would have died. It is not about Trump or Biden, it was about putting money into technology that showed millions of lives would be saved.
    OMG…that is WONDERFUL! Hoping it continues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Interesting that trump was screechy about how the fda was too slow and now people like you are trying to scream about them being to quick. Hilarious. But predictable.
    I haven't screamed, or even whispered, about the FDA being too quick, just pointing out that standard procedure was not followed. You must have intentionally missed the earlier post where I said I was in favor of fast tracking when warranted, and I believe in this case it was. The only thing predictable is your misrepresentation. Try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post
    Emergency use declarations are not political. Very smart and experienced physicians give info which is scrutinized by the FDA. They weigh the evidence to decide the risks
    And benefits. Mrna technology was developed in the 60's and 70's. Often technologies remain stagnant until an application comes along that will benefit a lot of people.

    My husband is in a clinical trial in a major cancer center. His MD was presenting to the FDA last week. The trial has been so successful they are anticipating it will fast track to level two. He is in level one. Formerly his diagnosis would have been a death sentence. Every single person who completed the trial is alive and has no evidence of cancer.

    Also the Mrna technology was in trialsfor cancer patients. For some diagnoses it has shown great promise.

    This is not about politics. It is about trusting hard working dedicated scientists and physicians whose sole mission is to save lives. I spend days in waiting rooms and see the hope, pain and resilience of human spirit. Keyboard warriors can post whatever they want, but I 100% trust my husbands physicians. Their intelligence, experience and dedication is remarkable.


    If vaccines had not been fast tracked imagine how many more people would have died. It is not about Trump or Biden, it was about putting money into technology that showed millions of lives would be saved.
    What wonderful news about your husband! Maybe cancer treatment is finally emerging from the dark ages. Now if we could just make it affordable...

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    Traitor trump talking if (God forbid) he is ever re-elected…would pardon rioters/killers/maimers of Jan 6th. Just can’t understand why he is not behind bars. Obviously he is above the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    What wonderful news about your husband! Maybe cancer treatment is finally emerging from the dark ages. Now if we could just make it affordable...
    In my business, I see wonderful things being done. Immunotherapies, CAR-Ts, genomic therapies It won't be long before all cancers will just be another disease to be managed. I wish your husband much success with his treatment, flowers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    In my business, I see wonderful things being done. Immunotherapies, CAR-Ts, genomic therapies It won't be long before all cancers will just be another disease to be managed. I wish your husband much success with his treatment, flowers!
    I'm intrigued by phage therapy (for intractable infection), but I'm not sure it's getting much traction.

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    Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post


    My husband is in a clinical trial in a major cancer center. His MD was presenting to the FDA last week. The trial has been so successful they are anticipating it will fast track to level two. He is in level one. Formerly his diagnosis would have been a death sentence. Every single person who completed the trial is alive and has no evidence of cancer.



    Great news! May he join the others and be cancer free.

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