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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    "Caring about these people (Venezuelans fleeing communism) would require empathy, which would require a heart, and I guess we know where that goes... --Nicolle Wallace, former White House Communications Director for GW bush, former Republican

    Please explain to me how these asylum-seekers are less worthy than those fleeing communist Cuba.
    It’s easier to preen about your empathy from a safe distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    It’s easier to preen about your empathy from a safe distance.
    It has to do with fairness, humanity, and following the rules. Empathy is extra.
    That official in Martha's Vineyard is confronting Republican ugliness and cruelty right up close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    On the one hand, I hate seeing people used as political pawns. On the other, I will admit I enjoy seeing some of these insufferably self-righteous progressives whining about the impact of a tiny fraction of what poor Texas border towns are expected to absorb every day. I heard Massachusetts called out the National Guard to deal with fifty people.
    So is this what the National Guard looks like in Martha's Vineyard? They don't look like NIMBY's to me.

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    Martha's Vineyard is a pretty small island with a small population. And I suspect it lacks in services for migrants.

    Much like my own island. It is not uncommon here to call on state/federal resources when there are problems, as low-population remote areas typically don't have resources on-hand to deal with significant outlying events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    You want more Hitler wannabes, I see. ... more maga republicans. Thought you were against trump... this is his minion???
    I’ve heard quite a lot of good things about DeSantis from people I respect, so no I don’t think he’s a Trump toady. I will vote for him. I might even send him money if it looks like it’s DeSantis vs Donald Trump and DeSantis needs my cash to get ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    "Caring about these people (Venezuelans fleeing communism) would require empathy, which would require a heart, and I guess we know where that goes... --Nicolle Wallace, former White House Communications Director for GW bush, former Republican

    Please explain to me how these asylum-seekers are less worthy than those fleeing communist Cuba.

    ETA: Oh, this just keeps getting worse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NxX_orvxhw "It is sickeningly cruel," said an official in Martha Vineyard.

    Apparently, agencies lied and conspired to thwart these people's attempts to gain any chance of asylum.
    Are all of “these people “meaning illegal aliens being bussed into Northern states fleeing communism from Venezuela? I did not know that. Or is this just for the Martha’s Vineyard group? Just musing here, no answer necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Are all of “these people “meaning illegal aliens being bussed into Northern states fleeing communism from Venezuela? I did not know that. Or is this just for the Martha’s Vineyard group? Just musing here, no answer necessary.
    I think just the MV group, who are no longer on the island.

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    Asylum seekers are not, and never have been, "illegal aliens."

    DeSantis is very much a typical Republican politician--dishonest and vindictive. Maybe more politically Savvy and slightly less crude than Trump.

    ETA:"politician"

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I’ve heard quite a lot of good things about DeSantis from people I respect, so no I don’t think he’s a Trump toady. I will vote for him. I might even send him money if it looks like it’s DeSantis vs Donald Trump and DeSantis needs my cash to get ahead.

    Another wasteful, lying republican that is now involved in human trafficking.... Another good reason to avoid voting republican. BTW... DeSantis is a trump toady.... see below.


    Since DeSantis didn't have any refugees readily available to expel this week, he used his forced deportation money to charter a couple of jets and coerce migrants who were in Texas — halfway across the country — to board them, claiming they were being sent to Boston with promises of resources and support. Instead the migrants were dropped off on Martha's Vineyard, a famous summer resort with a year-round population of around 15,000. No one there knew they were coming, and they were essentially dumped at the island's tiny airport like cargo.

    DeSantis arranged for a video crew to record this atrocity for the entertainment of the xenophobic miscreants who watch Tucker Carlson's network. No doubt they enjoyed watching the footage of exhausted mothers and fathers with small children in their arms walking across the tarmac and wondering where the hell they were. Locals on Martha's Vineyard rose to the occasion, somewhat redeeming the reputation of human beings by offering the new arrivals food and shelter, along with legal advice and emotional support.

    DeSantis seems exceedingly proud of his immoral little stunt. He held a press conference in which he claimed that his reasoning for chartering airplanes to abduct migrants in Texas and fly them to the New England coast was to save money:

    One of the reasons why we want to transfer [people is] because, obviously it's expensive if people are coming here, you got to pay taxes, social services, and all these other things.
    A lot of Floridians love this stuff, apparently. Consider, DeSantis' "election police force," a particularly flamboyant display of government waste. He's up for re-election and leading Democrat Charlie Crist in the polls. Most observers don't think it will be all that close. Greg Abbott is also running for another term (against Democrat Beto O'Rourke), and he dropped off a busload of asylum seekers in front of the Naval Observatory in D.C. this week — that's the official residence of Vice President Kamala Harris. Abbott and DeSantis' biggest fans are uncomfortably similar to the White Citizens' Council members who clearly enjoyed the misery they inflicted by sending Black citizens north under false pretenses. They are cruel, immoral bigots who take pleasure in hurting others.

    I'm sure the other Big Florida Man is gnashing his teeth in Mar-a-Lago over DeSantis, his likely 2024 opponent, getting all this great press for owning the libs when Trump thinks it was all his idea in the first place. If he slithers back to the White House you can bet he'll seek to get this done on a national scale. But so will any other Republican likely to get elected to national office anytime soon. The red-state "laboratories of democracy" are leading the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    It’s easier to preen about your empathy from a safe distance.
    Unlike those of your ilk who have no empathy.

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