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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Unlike those of your ilk who have no empathy.
    Ldahl thinks empathy is just a performance people do to show other people they are decent human beings. Doing kind things for others, like spending 40 years of oneís life building homes for low income people, is something people do to impress others, not something that is done because they care about those who are less fortunate than them. Personally I canít imagine how depressing it would be having such a cynical view of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Ldahl thinks empathy is just a performance people do to show other people they are decent human beings. Doing kind things for others, like spending 40 years of one’s life building homes for low income people, is something people do to impress others, not something that is done because they care about those who are less fortunate than them. Personally I can’t imagine how depressing it would be having such a cynical view of the world.
    I mean, you do know that he has some knowledge about that topic because he was involved in building homes for low income come people at no pay, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I mean, you do know that he has some knowledge about that topic because he was involved in building homes for low income come people at no pay, right?
    So are you saying that ldahlís motivation was performative? If it wasnít why would he assume that someone who spent half their life doing the same thing had that motive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    So are you saying that ldahl’s motivation was performative? If it wasn’t why would he assume that someone who spent half their life doing the same thing had that motive?
    Because he might have some insight into that organization and an individual’s operation within that organization.
    maybe. I’m not making declarative fact out of any of it. Neither should you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I’ve heard quite a lot of good things about DeSantis from people I respect, so no I don’t think he’s a Trump toady. I will vote for him. I might even send him money if it looks like it’s DeSantis vs Donald Trump and DeSantis needs my cash to get ahead.
    I think your sentiment is exactly what many republicans and independents think just from listening to those around me. I have met many people in Florida who moved here because they had homeless encampments in their parks complete with drugs and excrement. They saw teachers spending huge amounts of time with kids who did not speak one word of English. And the fact that schools cannot ask legal status totally annoys them. Just lots of democrat supported policies like sanctuary cities.
    I will confess that picking where we lived involved carefully looking into school districts so naturally they were in communities with more money. I guess deep down I am as selfish and discriminatory as others. I live in a sea of red and I can truly understand why so many oppose illegally crossing the border (not through legal border crossings). I can see why many do not want their taxes to go to non citizen benefits like schools, food assistance and Medicaid when they struggle day after day and they perceive they have been left behind in favor of people coming across the border without permission. Not saying I agree with what they feel but I cannot argue what many of them feel, especially in southern Texas. Their border is huge and in many places the Rio grand is not amenable to a wall and very easy to cross.

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    Also DeSantis will run on early opening of the state. Our schools were open way before those in the north and businesses were given way more leeway to open. Tons of people came here to escape lockdown policies. Of course it is much easier when people can spend way more time outdoors in our parks and beaches and not stuck inside. He is married with a young family. I have not heard any dirt on him which surely would have been dug up.

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    Personally I love the way he uses the power of the government to bully people who use their first amendment rights in ways that he doesn't approve of. And denigrates high school kids who dare to be concerned about their health in the middle of a pandemic. And supports the republican policy of trying to bully LGBTQ folks back into the closet, even getting legislation passed in support of that goal. And now he's getting his "hate the brown people" cred. This guy is a rockstar of republican values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Personally I love the way he uses the power of the government to bully people who use their first amendment rights in ways that he doesn't approve of. And denigrates high school kids who dare to be concerned about their health in the middle of a pandemic. And supports the republican policy of trying to bully LGBTQ folks back into the closet, even getting legislation passed in support of that goal. And now he's getting his "hate the brown people" cred. This guy is a rockstar of republican values.
    Many people think he is right. Not me. I don’t believe the Bible he and others quote tells people to hate those who are not the same color, religion, sexual orientation or economic status. That was something that puzzled me about Trump. Standing with an upside down bible after a peaceful crowd was dispersed with rubber bullets does not seem right no matter what your religious bent is. Plus the boasting of sexual prowess and having three wives with five children among them. Not the Christian and family values I was raised with. And banning books. Power can become very ugly in the hands of some entitled rich people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Personally I love the way he uses the power of the government to bully people who use their first amendment rights in ways that he doesn't approve of. And denigrates high school kids who dare to be concerned about their health in the middle of a pandemic. And supports the republican policy of trying to bully LGBTQ folks back into the closet, even getting legislation passed in support of that goal. And now he's getting his "hate the brown people" cred. This guy is a rockstar of republican values.
    Do you think maybe you're misrepresenting all this just a bit?
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Do you think maybe you're misrepresenting all this just a bit?
    No. I have eyes and ears that work just fine.

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