Roe vs. Wade.....

[gimmethesimplelife]

I'm disgusted beyond words that we've come to this. Alito's reference to an 17th-century misogynist* in setting out his opinion is the perfect metaphor.

*https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/a...-literal-witch

So now that the first domino has fallen, and given the current oppressive climate in this country, I have no doubt that LGBTQ, interracial marriage, and other privacy issues are at stake. Republicans--the party of personal freedom. Ha!

Perhaps not all hope is lost. Maybe our brighter young people will flee to better countries, taking their skills and energy with them to a better deal/country. America has certainly earned such. And maybe more older folks will retirement visa their way out - this nation no longer seems viable for a good number of it's people.

Perhaps things have gone beyond fighting for change - maybe it's now about fleeing. Life is short, the clock is ticking, don't we ALL deserve better than what America has become/is becoming?

Rob

[beckyliz]

Thomas's concurring opinion encourages the court to make it about any right that is judicial, not by statute.

[gimmethesimplelife]

Why are we making this about other issues? This isn't about men. Yea sure maybe eventually. But right now it's about women. Not everything is really about men.

You are right. At the moment this is about women. Granted.

My take? Things will not just remain about women only for long. Well, I always do love to protest and now that I have time.....Rob

[LDAHL]

Thomas's concurring opinion encourages the court to make it about any right that is judicial, not by statute.

I hope that’s true.

[bae]

Perhaps not all hope is lost. Maybe our brighter young people will flee to better countries, taking their skills and energy with them to a better deal/country. America has certainly earned such. And maybe more older folks will retirement visa their way out - this nation no longer seems viable for a good number of it's people. b

My daughter is finishing up her Ph.D. this month at Cambridge. She will almost certainly not be returning to the USA. I may go join her at some point once my elderly parents pass away. I've already "packed my two bags" in the sense that I have housing and assets secured over there.

[gimmethesimplelife]

My daughter is finishing up her Ph.D. this month at Cambridge. She will almost certainly not be returning to the USA. I may go join her at some point once my elderly parents pass away. I've already "packed my two bags" in the sense that I have housing and assets secured over there.

YES! YES! YES! Sanity! Bring it on and congrats to your daughter.

Rob

[iris lilies]

I am not clear how any law passed in Congress to stop abortion restrictions would work.

The Woman’s Health Protection act failed to get Senate votes to pass it last month, and it restricted what the states coukd say about abortion.

But does it matter it failed? How does a Federal law on rights trump a state law? Wouldn’t this federal law have been declared unconstitutional?

I am genuinely curious.

[jp1]

Brett Kavanaugh, under oath "Roe is an important precedent. Roe and Casey have been reaffirmed many times. Casey is precedent on precedent.

Neil Gorsuch, under oath. "Roe v. Wade...is a precedent of SCOTUS. It has been reaffirmed... A good judge will consider it as precedent."

John Roberts, under oath, "Roe is settled as a precedent of the court, entitled to respect under principles of stare decisis. It is settled."

Apparently being honest is not a trait we should expect of supreme court justices anymore.

[Alan]

How does a Federal law on rights trump a state law? Wouldn’t this federal law have been declared unconstitutional?

I am genuinely curious.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." ~ 10th Amendment to the US Constitution

I interpret this to mean that since the Constitution says absolutely nothing about abortion, Congress would have to approach the subject from another angle, in much the same way if they don't care for how a state prosecutes a murder charge, they'll sometimes prosecute themselves using the charge of denying the victim's civil rights to life or liberty. Of course in this case I guess they'd first have to legislate a lack of civil right to life or liberty to the unborn. That might prove tricky.

[frugal-one]

And sadness for LGBTQ people and anyone who uses abortion. Thomas made no bones about the fact that they are coming for us next. And since the radical activists on the supreme court are insistent on going back to the bad old days of the 1950's Brown v. Board of Ed will undoubtedly get cast aside too at some point.

“It’s a sad day for the court and for the country,” Biden said at the White House. He urged voters to make it a defining issue in the November elections, declaring, “This decision must not be the final word.”

GD trump packed the supreme court.. now the will of the majority of the people is not being honored.