What if trump isn’t held accountable?

[catherine]

I can't disagree with that proposal. And while we're at it, could we bring back the talking filibuster, at the very least?

I agree with LDAHL, too, on the idea of public servants being public servants.

And how about term limits for Congress while we're at it?

[LDAHL]

I’m not crazy about term limits for elected officials. If the good people of the fourth district of Iowa want to send the same person to Washington for thirty years, who am I to thwart their will? I would like to see the various voting bodies set limits on how long you can be a committee chair, though.

I do like the idea of term limits for appointed positions. Think of the theatrical hysterics we would have avoided by limiting SCOTUS terms to 18 years, for instance.

I’d also like to see the major federal departments dispersed throughout the country rather than concentrated in the imperial capital. Maybe our mandarins would spend more time among the commoners than crowding Georgetown bars.

[Alan]

I can't disagree with that proposal. And while we're at it, could we bring back the talking filibuster, at the very least?

I'd love to see a present day Jefferson Smith in action.

[jp1]

Not that it is essential to your question, but I sincerely believe that Donald Trump sincerely believes he won the Presidential election. He did not/does not “know he lost.”

I disagree. When someone calls up the secretary of state for one of the states they lost and says "I NEED YOU TO FIND ME 11,780 VOTES" it's quite clear that he knows he lost that state and that he wants the SOS to lie and cheat on his behalf.

[jp1]

What does accountability look like in your world? Loss of office? Loss of freedom? Loss of life? What would satisfy that persistent itch?

If the laws we have are not sufficient to put him in a spray tan matching jumpsuit for the rest of his life then we need more effective laws. Because it most assuredly should not be legal for someone to come up with a plan involving many many people to overturn the vote results of multiple states and then proceed to carry out that plan including encouraging a violent mob to kill one's vice president.

[jp1]

I do think some of those you mentioned were held accountable--Nixon was forced to resign from the Presidency in disgrace. Clinton was impeached for perjury. And usually Presidents aren't taken to task for going to war because declaration of war has to be authorized by Congress, which it was in this case.

Yes, congress did authorize that war. Based on the lies fed to it by the administration.

[LDAHL]

If the laws we have are not sufficient to put him in a spray tan matching jumpsuit for the rest of his life then we need more effective laws. Because it most assuredly should not be legal for someone to come up with a plan involving many many people to overturn the vote results of multiple states and then proceed to carry out that plan including encouraging a violent mob to kill one's vice president.

Be careful what you wish for. Creating overly broad incitement laws could well be used against people you like in the future.

[LDAHL]

I'd love to see a present day Jefferson Smith in action.

It would create one more reason to not watch CSPAN.

[LDAHL]

Yes, congress did authorize that war. Based on the lies fed to it by the administration.

I don’t think it was as simple as all that. Most of the world’s intelligence services seemed to think so at the time.

[happystuff]

What if trump isn’t held accountable?

Reading but have avoided posting... until now. LOL. The only thing I can add is that, based on my own faith, trump will reap the karma he has and continues to generate.

On the positive side, he is an excellent example of how I do NOT want to behave, live, etc.