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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    That could very well be, but why add an unnecessary risk factor to my life? A few years ago, several houses in Seattle exploded due to some flaw in design or maintenance.
    Remember this one? I had a good friend who lived there. Operative word is "lived"...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Br...line_explosion


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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Remember this one? I had a good friend who lived there. Operative word is "lived"...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Br...line_explosion

    I remember the Bellingham pipeline explosion of 1999 that killed three. Yeah they don't happen often, but they're memorable when they do.

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    I was discussing this with a friend who seems to keep up with such things. He said that like the Graduate movie where the old guy whispers "plastics", the modern version would be "heat pumps". I had to do a little self educating, but with our cold winters I'd anticipate my heating costs would be huge if I had to heat with baseboard electric and didn't have solar panels.

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    And of course if we're mapping out hypothetical risks of being without electricity, there is the earthquake risk of gas for anyone in earthquake country. You are supposed to turn it off in an earthquake because of the fire risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    And of course if we're mapping out hypothetical risks of being without electricity, there is the earthquake risk of gas for anyone in earthquake country. You are supposed to turn it off in an earthquake because of the fire risk.
    When my friend's father bought a condo in Palm Desert, he was advised to be sure to turn off the gas in case of an earthquake. He later admitted he had no idea how or where to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    I was discussing this with a friend who seems to keep up with such things. He said that like the Graduate movie where the old guy whispers "plastics", the modern version would be "heat pumps". I had to do a little self educating, but with our cold winters I'd anticipate my heating costs would be huge if I had to heat with baseboard electric and didn't have solar panels.
    I use electric baseboard heat along with my wood stove in the winter, and even though I'm burning wood, my electricity/heating costs due to the baseboard heat are double in my 700 sq ft home than they were in my 2000 sq. ft home with an energy-efficient furnace/natural gas heat.

    For that reason, I am getting a heat pump in September (first available time--the HVAC guy is swamped all summer installing them). I anticipate electricity costs to go down considerably, and I am still trying to figure out how to implement solar as well. But that's difficult because I can't do roof-top unless I cut down trees, which of course I refuse to do. I may buy into a solar farm, but I'm against those in principle, too, if they're built over arable land, or the land has been deforested to build the farm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    My all-electric house runs an average of $114 a month; a large percentage of that is hydro-powered.

    Also, natural gas apparently causes not-insignificant levels of indoor pollution:

    "Updated May 5, 2020: A Rocky Mountain Institute report, published today in collaboration with Physicians for Social Responsibility and others, underscores the UCLA modeling that cooking on gas can spike emissions of nitrogen dioxide and carbon monoxide to levels that would violate outdoor pollutant standards. The RMI report synthesizes two decades of health research, highlights key findings, and provides recommendations." (Natural Resources Defense Council)

    If I find myself needing to micromanage cooking temperatures, I'll go with an induction cooktop.
    I haven't paid that little for electric in years, and I don't heat with it nor do I use a lot. There are huge variances in electric rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    I was discussing this with a friend who seems to keep up with such things. He said that like the Graduate movie where the old guy whispers "plastics", the modern version would be "heat pumps". I had to do a little self educating, but with our cold winters I'd anticipate my heating costs would be huge if I had to heat with baseboard electric and didn't have solar panels.
    we are putting a heat pump in our newly constructed sun room. I remain skeptical about it because I remember the failures of those units 30 years ago.

    As for invection cooktops, I am not attracted to those newfangled things. I love my retro microwave oven that uses a knobs to turn for setting minutes, I do not have to punch digital buttons.

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    Our electric baseboard heating cost 500/month in January 10 years ago in a 1400 sq ft house. After getting that bill when we went to bed we turned off the heat in every room but our bedroom when we went to bed. It was always really cold in the morning but lowered the bill by half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Remember this one? I had a good friend who lived there. Operative word is "lived"...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Br...line_explosion
    That reminds me of this one.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukush...er?wprov=sfti1

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