Borderland in crisis (fentanyl related)

[gimmethesimplelife]

Yeah...wow...my daughter would maybe still be alive if someone had found her in time and gave her Narcan...

I'm sorry also for the loss of your daughter. It's just a horrible drug, worse even than meth. Rob

[happystuff]

Yeah...wow...my daughter would maybe still be alive if someone had found her in time and gave her Narcan...

My condolences on the loss of your daughter.

[LDAHL]

At the county I used to work for, Narcan pens were part of the standard kit for sheriff’s deputies. They saved a lot of lives, and weren’t terribly expensive that I can recall. A lot of fentanyl victims weren’t aware of what they were getting from their heroin suppliers, quality assurance not being a high priority in the drug trade.

[gimmethesimplelife]

At the county I used to work for, Narcan pens were part of the standard kit for sheriff’s deputies. They saved a lot of lives, and weren’t terribly expensive that I can recall. A lot of fentanyl victims weren’t aware of what they were getting from their heroin suppliers, quality assurance not being a high priority in the drug trade.

I'm hearing that other drugs are now being laced with fentanyl to create more addicts for the drug trade as fentanyl is cheap and relatively easy to make with labs going 24/7/365 in Mexico for this purpose. I never cared for Nancy Reagan but I do respect her Just Say No advice.....best way to stay out of this mess. Rob

[catherine]

I never cared for Nancy Reagan but I do respect her Just Say No advice.....best way to stay out of this mess. Rob

I've always thought it was a simple message, but disingenuous. Addiction is a really complicated state, and reason and willpower almost never work as a cure.

92,000 drug overdose deaths in 2020--compared with 140,000+ alcohol-related deaths in 2020. The acceptance for alcohol consumption and minimization of its risks compared with "worse" drugs that society disapproves of is always interesting to me.

[JaneV2.0]

I've always thought it was a simple message, but disingenuous. Addiction is a really complicated state, and reason and willpower almost never work as a cure.

92,000 drug overdose deaths in 2020--compared with 140,000+ alcohol-related deaths in 2020. The acceptance for alcohol consumption and minimization of its risks compared with "worse" drugs that society disapproves of is always interesting to me.

As soon as I saw Nancy Reagan mentioned, I thought that I bet she had no problem with alcohol use. It may be a slower poison, but in a dependent individual, it can kill just as effectively. It is undoubtedly much more socially acceptable, but for many it represents a slippery slope that is lubricated by society's enthusiastic endorsement of its use. I wince when sent pictures of boozy drinks; how am I supposed to respond to that? "Get thee to rehab?"

[dado potato]

I worry about fentanyl. When I think about my grandkids age 6 to 18, I wonder what are the odds of any one of them being snuffed out by an overdose of fentanyl? I also worry about alcohol and some other things too.

In our simple living network, we have members who have lost loved ones to fentanyl. The burden of grief is not to be borne alone.

I took the Coursera online course on the Addicted Brain, by Michael Kuhar... and it contained some nuggets of insight. As I recall the course was under the auspices of Emory University in Atlanta <grateful braces>. His book is still near at hand on my bookshelf.

[flowerseverywhere]

I am so sorry for those who have lost loved ones to addictions.
I worked in mental health and no one is immune to this.

Perhaps listening to border patrol agents as to what would help them is a start. But The DEA site says much is coming from China and India now. So obviously it must also be coming in by plane and boat.

[pinkytoe]

I continue to see that innocent babies and toddlers here are dying after being exposed to their parent's fentanyl. So sad...