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    I myself brought this topic up on my FB page and boy did it become a hornet's nest (or maybe it's more like I became a pinata again). First off, I don't know much about guns - I am very anti gun as I explained some time ago when my Father was drunk years ago he stuck a gun up to my Mom's head and luckily did not shoot. Since then I am all about guns not getting into the wrong hands and never learned anything about guns as I fear them.

    From some of my straight male friends from high school, who I still meet up with on occasion - apparently it IS the duty of everyone touching the gun to ensure it's safety and the gun should have been checked to make sure it was empty. Now this comes from more than one of these guys and they do know something about guns as some of them are hunters. I will respect what they have to say as I seriously am out of my element on this one. The consensus of these guys is that Baldwin was extremely negligent. Do you'all agree? For once I will defer to the opinions of others as I really know nothing about guns other than in the wrong hands they can be lethal. Rob

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    I don't think you need to know anything about guns to see that there was a whole lot of negligence occurring on that set. And you never point a gun at anyone unless you're prepared to use it.

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    The simple fact that *someone* allowed the guns to be taken off-set and shot off into the desert for fun after-hours is mind-blowing, to say the least. This happened at the movie ranch about 13 miles from my house. More than a few people on that production were completely negligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    The consensus of these guys is that Baldwin was extremely negligent. Do you'all agree? For once I will defer to the opinions of others as I really know nothing about guns other than in the wrong hands they can be lethal. Rob
    First rule of gun handling:
    Treat All firearms like they are loaded.
    Second rule
    Never point the gun at anything you are not willing to destroy.
    Third rule,
    Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are aligned with your target and you have made the decision to fire.
    Fourth rule,
    Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

    I have been at gun point five times in my life and once at knifepoint to the throat. Don't take these lightly.

    And for the best video I have seen on the subject, by a lawyer who read the statutes:

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    I have taught thousands of people how to shoot over the past decades. I have been an expert witness in court on firearms use. I have done research at the Army's Wound Ballistics Lab at the Presidio. I've been an plaintiff for gun rights cases. I've carried a firearm nearly every day for 30+ years. I am a certified armorer for several major lines of firearms. I;ve competed in the National Matches. I've had an FFL, and engaged in buying/trading firearms. I've used a firearm to defend my life, and the lives of others.

    And, I would not have pointed a firearm at someone else on a film set and pulled the trigger, unless I was morally certain it was not able to go BANG.

    I have used firearms as props in self-defense classes. They've all been "red guns", that is, made of red rubber and clearly not a real firearm. Or, if they were real firearms, there were layers of protocols making sure firearms and real ammo were never in the same room together.

    I'm not sure how they do things in Hollywood though. But, shame on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiouzQ. View Post
    The simple fact that *someone* allowed the guns to be taken off-set and shot off into the desert for fun after-hours is mind-blowing, to say the least. This happened at the movie ranch about 13 miles from my house. More than a few people on that production were completely negligent.
    That I did not know.

    Yes, everyone handling the guns was extremely negligent. Baldwin should have checked himself the gun was unloaded as soon as he had it in hand.

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    Rob, do you realize that straight white men aren’t the only ones who are into firearms? There are a number of gay men on my big gun forum. They lean right or libertarian. The Pink Pistols is a large gay firearms group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToomuchStuff View Post
    First rule of gun handling:
    Treat All firearms like they are loaded.
    Second rule
    Never point the gun at anything you are not willing to destroy.
    Third rule,
    Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are aligned with your target and you have made the decision to fire.
    Fourth rule,
    Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

    I have been at gun point five times in my life and once at knifepoint to the throat. Don't take these lightly.

    And for the best video I have seen on the subject, by a lawyer who read the statutes:
    I know that we have not always seen eye to eye and there has been bickering between us from time to time. So I really want to Thank You for posting this as it really helped me to understand the issues and legalities going on here. As I stated, I really don't know anything about guns - this is due to the incident between my folks years ago and my reaction to it. At any rate, this video helped me grasp what is going on here, so once again, Thank You. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    Rob, do you realize that straight white men aren’t the only ones who are into firearms? There are a number of gay men on my big gun forum. They lean right or libertarian. The Pink Pistols is a large gay firearms group.
    Yes, I knew this, Tradd. There are all types and kinds of gay men just like there are all types and kinds of straight men. I've only known one gay man who was really into guns and he was a piece of work, putting it kindly. I'll put it this way - I am somewhere in the middle between very masculine and very feminine - dead set in the middle. There are things I don't understand that feminine gay men tend to be into, just as I don't know much about guns. i will say it's interesting getting educated here regarding gun safety and protocol. I doubt I'll ever be a gun fan - too much trauma surrounding the concept of guns for me - but I do appreciate knowing why Alec Baldwin was charged in the first place. Rob

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    Okay----Time to get back on track, here. So yeah---I just remembered the incident where out in some podunk in the hills, a deputy or town marshall who also was the de facto ACO(heartless dog cathcher), went to a cemetery, to follow up on a stray dog report, out there. Well, the dogg wouldn't let the ACO catch him, so the deputty opened the trunk of his cruiser to fetch his problem-solver(shotgun), and the darn thing accidentally discharged, mortally wounding the deppputty. Yup. What a mess that musta been! I have no idea what became of the stray dogg. Prolly some other deppputty used it for target practice, when they arrived. Yup. But yeah--Hope that helps you some. Thannk mee. Just as if it were a car, always treat EVERY lethal weapon as though it were loaded. 2023-01-22 (25).jpg2022-08-15 (8).jpg

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