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    So much of "common wisdom" flies in the face of reality.

    I'm just listening to an account of an athlete stricken with chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy (CIDP) who reversed his condition with the same elimination diet that worked to cure Mikhaela Peterson's depression and idiopathic arthritis. Basically no plant foods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    So much of "common wisdom" flies in the face of reality.

    I'm just listening to an account of an athlete stricken with chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy (CIDP) who reversed his condition with the same elimination diet that worked to cure Mikhaela Peterson's depression and idiopathic arthritis. Basically no plant foods.
    OK I realize grain is a plant food, but does this mean no grain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    OK I realize grain is a plant food, but does this mean no grain?
    Basically, meat poultry, fish and other seafood, eggs, dairy for people who can tolerate it, salt...I believe Peterson's "lion diet" just prescribes ruminants, salt, and water. This is basically a therapeutic elimination diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    So much of "common wisdom" flies in the face of reality.

    I'm just listening to an account of an athlete stricken with chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy (CIDP) who reversed his condition with the same elimination diet that worked to cure Mikhaela Peterson's depression and idiopathic arthritis. Basically no plant foods.
    Our bodies are all different, and I don't believe in a one-size-fits-all prescription for diet, but I would love to know how many people's bodies are actually hostile to plants. I would think the number is pretty small. Like you, Jane, I was a vegetarian, but unlike you, happily so. I am now a "mindful omnivore" meaning that I try to eat meat only from sources that honor the lives that animals gift us, such the animals raised and harvested from local small farmers. I broke from being a vegetarian because of my permaculture training which recognizes the natural element of animals in the food chain, and also because it was a PIA to constantly have to coordinate meals with my meat-loving DH. The vegetarian life agrees with some people and not for others. I'm not dogmatic about that.
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    I was happy as a vegetarian, except for the part where I was hungry all the time and steadily gaining weight. Vegan--shudder--was another matter. Whatever adults want to eat is their business.

    To try, belatedly, to stay on topic, Sally K Norton recently wrote a book: Toxic Superfoods: How Oxalate Overload* Is Making You Sick--and How to Get Better .I haven't read it.

    *from plants
    A surprising number of people with digestive and auto-immune issues seem to benefit from limiting plant matter.

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    Okay---Having done a little more reading on Oswald, who no doubt did the dastardly deed ta demmacrats in dallas on that dreadful day in dealy, the week before December, I also did some other reading and watching to get a brief overview of several other un-American dissident revolutionaries and maladjusated malcontents. Not that I hold them in high esteem or identify with them, as if they were foobaw hroes or folk heroes, but as deviants. The others are Ed Snowden and Jerry Rubin and Charles Manson. Well, I viewed an interview of Rubin on the Phil Donahue show from 1970, and he was very manic acting, like manson in his interviews. Oswald & Snowden at least gave rational & reasonable explanations for their views. I think the main difference between them is whether or not they actually PHYSICALLY attacked someone,(like Oswald) or committed some serious offense, as Snowden is alleged to have done. Manson simply conspired to attack other people. Rubin just talked LOUDLY about revolution. See? I guess it fulfills my need to categorize and stereotype and yes--judge, people & things. Yup. But yeah---Rubin was a contemporary of Oswald(same age), who died while jaywalking in LA. Yup. May've been under the influence, but that I don't really know. But, he exhibited signs of dysfunction on Donahue, for sure. He did attend Oberlin, too. Ha. Hope that helps you some. Thankk mee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlebittybobby View Post
    Okay---Having done a little more reading on Oswald, who no doubt did the dastardly deed ta demmacrats in dallas on that dreadful day in dealy, the week before December, I also did some other reading and watching to get a brief overview of several other un-American dissident revolutionaries and maladjusated malcontents. Not that I hold them in high esteem or identify with them, as if they were foobaw hroes or folk heroes, but as deviants. The others are Ed Snowden and Jerry Rubin Charles Manson. Well, I viewed an interview of Rubin on the Phil Donahue show from 1970, and he was very manic acting, like manson in his interviews. Oswald & Snowden at least gave rational & reasonable explanations for their views. I think the main difference between them is whether or not they actually PHYSICALLY attacked someone,(like Oswald) or committed some serious offense, as Snowden is alleged to have done. See? I guess is fulkfills my need to categorize and stereotype and yes--judge, people & things. Yup. But yeah---Rubin was a contemporary of Oswald(same age), who died while jaywalking in LA. Yup. May've been under the influence, but that I don't really know. But, he exhibited signs of dysfunction on Donahue, for sure. He did attend Oberlin, too. Ha. Hope that helps you some. Thankk mee.
    bobby, did you ever see the Aaron Sorkin movie, The Trial of the Chicago 7? I got some insight into the personalities of Jerry Rubin and Abbie Hoffman from the portrayals of them in that movie. Also, Tom Hayden. I loved that movie. You may not like it because it was definitely sympathetic to the "7" but you'd have to admit that the judicial system (meaning the judge) did not serve the defendants well. Plus if you're to believe the narrative, the whole case was constructed as a political move by John Mitchell to get back at Ramsey Clark.
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    Okay---Having done a little more reading on Oswald, who no doubt did the dastardly deed ta demmacrats in dallas on that dreadful day in dealy, the week before December, I also did some other reading and watching to get a brief overview of several other un-American dissident revolutionaries and maladjusated malcontents. Not that I hold them in high esteem or identify with them, as if they were foobaw hroes or folk heroes, but as deviants. The others are Ed Snowden and Jerry Rubin Charles Manson. Well, I viewed an interview of Rubin on the Phil Donahue show from 1970, and he was very manic acting, like manson in his interviews. Oswald & Snowden at least gave rational & reasonable explanations for their views. I think the main difference between them is whether or not they actually PHYSICALLY attacked someone,(like Oswald) or committed some serious offense, as Snowden is alleged to have done. See? I guess is fulkfills my need to categorize and stereotype and yes--judge, people & things. Yup. But yeah---Rubin was a contemporary of Oswald(same age), who died while jaywalking in LA. Yup. May've been under the influence, but that I don't really know. But, he exhibited signs of dysfunction on Donahue, for sure. He did attend Oberlin, too. Ha. Hope that helps you some. Thankk mee.

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    I just finished Never Fall Down by Patricia McCormick. I thought it was an excellent read, about a young boy's experiences in Cambodia under the rule of the Khmer Rouge. I admittedly know very little about this place and time in history, and it looks like these guys were every bit as bad as the Nazis. I now have another whole realm of man's inhumanity to man to contemplate.

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