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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    How do you define "wingnut"?

    Asked and answered!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I don't watch propagandists masquerading as political commentators except for their entertainment value, and I don't find Rachel Maddow entertaining. But, thank you for lumping me into the same group as LDAHL, he's the kind of facts over feelings kinda guy I can only aspire to be. I know you didn't intend that as a compliment but you never know where serendipity lurks.
    I guess "propagandist" is your way of saying "anyone who doesn't agree with me." Tucker Carlson was an actual propagandist, parroting Russian talking points.

    Rachel Maddow is indeed a political commentator, meaning she's allowed to express her opinion. She's the farthest thing from a bomb-throwing radical, describing herself thus: "I'm undoubtedly a liberal, which means that I'm in almost total agreement with the Eisenhower-era Republican Party platform."(Wikipedia) She's also an historian, an author, and earned a Doctor of Philosophy (politics) degree as a Rhodes scholar at Oxford. I have a great deal of respect for her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Oh, I have access to Maddow, not sure why you would think otherwise, I've just never felt the need to watch her after regularly listening to her spin on Air America years ago, and I only listened then for the entertainment value. Actually, I no longer pay attention to any ratings driven propagandists since most thinking people know they're selling you a product you'll enjoy in hopes you'll come back for more. It occurs to me that they're more an outlet for stoking preferred biases rather than promoting thoughtful discussions of public interest.

    So, I'm not sure what "correlations" she may have recently expressed, perhaps you could enlighten me and we could discuss?
    You will have to watch the May 8th program. There is so much information, there is no way I could even come close to giving an apt description. The program shows parallels and correlations. I'm sure you would glean a lot of information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    You will have to watch the May 8th program. There is so much information, there is no way I could even come close to giving an apt description. The program shows parallels and correlations. I'm sure you would glean a lot of information.
    I suppose if the end result of her presentation is your representation of Republicans as Nazis, and you can't describe or give examples of how or why she brought you to that conclusion, my description of her as a propagandist feeding existing biases is probably right on point.

    I may decide to devote 45 minutes of my time listening to her presentation at some point to analyze her technique, but not today, you've already provided the spoiler. If or when I do watch it I'll let you know so that we can discuss.
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    Alan, There is no probably if you don't watch it. Only then can you make any assumption or assertion. YLMV

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    Okay---Big Degrees---like Mad Cow has, mean only one thing--she/he/it has excelled at parroting the Groupthink dogma of the illiberals in Academia. End of story. Game Over. Case closed. Hope that helps you some. Thankk Mee.

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    I purposely did not read any of the other responses before writing this. I voted for Trump the first two times. Will not ever vote for him again. While I like many
    of his ideas. Morally, he is a train wreck. He is a bully. His child like name calling, belittling, bullying etc., is embarrassing. I am not sure DeSantis is much better. *sigh*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg44 View Post
    I purposely did not read any of the other responses before writing this. I voted for Trump the first two times. Will not ever vote for him again. While I like many
    of his ideas. Morally, he is a train wreck. He is a bully. His child like name calling, belittling, bullying etc., is embarrassing. I am not sure DeSantis is much better. *sigh*
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg44 View Post
    I purposely did not read any of the other responses before writing this. I voted for Trump the first two times. Will not ever vote for him again. While I like many
    of his ideas. Morally, he is a train wreck. He is a bully. His child like name calling, belittling, bullying etc., is embarrassing. I am not sure DeSantis is much better. *sigh*
    Ron Desantis is better, believe me.

    Donald Trump is not temperamentally suited to be President.

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    A thin skinned, petty, vindictive bully is better suited to be president? I guess you like to set the bar low.

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