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    Just out of curiosity, did she mention that the FBI knew the Steele Dossier, which was the basis of the entire Russian Collusion narrative, was a hoax perpetrated by partisans trying to hurt a Presidential candidate?
    The investigation was under way in the summer, the Steele dossier didn't show up until the fall. This is per the Durham report. Papadopulous had already been bragging to an Australian diplomat about his Russian connections before the dossier surfaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Just out of curiosity, did she mention that the FBI knew...
    None of the below. What she said was that there was no new evidence and nothing we didn't already know. I'm no fan of Rachel and it's the most I've listened to her. However, contrary to you earlier statement, she did mention it on the air. I really am not motivated to fact check what Alan said and what she said. Like I mentioned, both sides play the politically motivated witch hunt game. There are bigger fish to fry on Trump and his election and climate change lies among others in the courts now. It would be interesting to fact check Rachel vs. her conservative counter parts like Hannity, Breitbart, and Tucker to see who has the longest nose.

    Speaking of witch hunts, I wonder what Jim Jordan is up to. He seems to have backed off on his Fauci investigations but is still hot on Hunter. Remember the Kennedy "expose" on Fauci and vaccines? Another one of those things that just isn't that important now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Desantis governs one of the largest states in our nation. Successfully. He made some choices during Covid that served the state well.

    I don’t think stage 2 of the Disney fight is sensible, though.

    Of course he isn’t going to match your policy preferences about climate change and etc. It isn’t about policy for me, it is about him being an experienced public servant, experienced in serving the public and not putting himself first.
    Actually he has been putting himself and his anti"woke" propaganda ahead of the state needs. First, he has been on a book tour, coincidentally in the early primary states positioning himself for a run against Trump. the law said that a governor is term limited to two years and cannot run for higher office unless they resign. The law was changed to accommodate him. I'm guessing they will change the law to let him run again if he does not get the nomination. they also changed to law to make his spending much less.transparent and out of the public eye as he continues to ignore real problems Floridians face to run for president and fight his imaginary woke problems.

    And we have a six week abortion ban now. More babies who will be abused, neglected and unwanted joining the overburdened foster cafe system. heartbreaking.

    Our covid death rates were not good. Reporting was alleged to have been doctored and supressed. the CDC and major universities have made allegations of this. I know 9 people who died. One 44 and one 52 with no known prior conditions. Plus we don't have expanded Medicaid to help the working poor.

    Educators are not happy. He has made it easier to sue teachers if they teach "woke" ideology, whatever that really means. I guess they will find out the hard way. We have over 9,000 teacher vacancies and pay very poorly.

    Buckle up for more drama, bullying and bending or changing the rules if he does get the nomination.

    The Disney feud is ridiculous. He admitted he is taking revenge on them. The Disney team used his quotes in the first sentence of their lawsuit to prove it. They employ hundreds of thousand directly, and attract an enormous amount of revenue here. Hotels, restaurants and so on employ thousands off property as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Why would anyone take you seriously? You vote for those who want to overthrow the government! Watch her May 8th episode and then talk. Doubt if you will respond.
    Yes. I voted against sending another AOC to DC, and would happily do so again. What that has to do with a partisan hack trumpeting a political smear for years escapes me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Yes. I voted against sending another AOC to DC, and would happily do so again. What that has to do with a partisan hack trumpeting a political smear for years escapes me.
    Speaking of another AOC, my own Congress person Corey Bush was one of two people to vote against a resolution on Monday that recognized law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty for National Police Week. 2 out of 435 did not support it.

    While this is the kind of dumb rubber stamping action that annoys me, the fact that squad member, Corey Bush has the temerity to pretend she’s making some sort of important stand illustrates she does not represent me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerseverywhere View Post
    Actually he has been putting himself and his anti"woke" propaganda ahead of the state needs. First, he has been on a book tour, coincidentally in the early primary states positioning himself for a run against Trump. the law said that a governor is term limited to two years and cannot run for higher office unless they resign. The law was changed to accommodate him. I'm guessing they will change the law to let him run again if he does not get the nomination. they also changed to law to make his spending much less.transparent and out of the public eye as he continues to ignore real problems Floridians face to run for president and fight his imaginary woke problems.

    And we have a six week abortion ban now. More babies who will be abused, neglected and unwanted joining the overburdened foster cafe system. heartbreaking.

    Our covid death rates were not good. Reporting was alleged to have been doctored and supressed. the CDC and major universities have made allegations of this. I know 9 people who died. One 44 and one 52 with no known prior conditions. Plus we don't have expanded Medicaid to help the working poor.

    Educators are not happy. He has made it easier to sue teachers if they teach "woke" ideology, whatever that really means. I guess they will find out the hard way. We have over 9,000 teacher vacancies and pay very poorly.

    Buckle up for more drama, bullying and bending or changing the rules if he does get the nomination.

    The Disney feud is ridiculous. He admitted he is taking revenge on them. The Disney team used his quotes in the first sentence of their lawsuit to prove it. They employ hundreds of thousand directly, and attract an enormous amount of revenue here. Hotels, restaurants and so on employ thousands of it would irritate me know, and if my state governor was gallivanting and campaigning for President… .
    It would irritate me no end if my state’s governor was gallivanting around when he was supposed to be governing the state, instead, campaigning for president or any other office. I also do not like the very strict six week, limitation on abortion, but your logical leap to foster care seems… not logical. In reality, if someone does not want a newly born baby there are hundreds of parents who DO want that kid.Adoption, it’s an option.

    Our state limits gubanatorial terms to two, for a total of 8 years. That is written in our state’s constitution. If you all want similar limitations, seems like you should get a constitutional proposal going. That’s not easy of course.

    I don’t know what you mean about Covid deaths in Florida. Of course people died. I don’t know how the numbers were cooking Florida, but we all know the numbers can be looked upon as cooked on either side, and in many states. People died in Missouri, and I know personally of several. That doesn’t mean it is the fault of Ron DeSantis.

    If you mean the ridiculous arguments over mandatory masking in your state that Desantis was involved in… it finally has come out that the CDC grudgingly admits masking may be only 10% effective if addressing Covid spread. That’s not nothing I know, but really it is a lot of todo about masking.

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    IL, there are thousands of kids waiting for adoption. In Florida about 4500 whose parental rights have been terminated and about the same number more waiting.

    https://www.focusonthefamily.com/pro...state-florida/

    https://cwoutcomes.acf.hhs.gov/cwodatasite/byState
    Actually my bigger fear is more will become abused or neglected or our dismal Maternal mortality rate will increase.

    If you don't want a child, how will you take care of it? I am not pro abortion, just realistic.

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    I’m reading that DeSantis will probably announce his candidacy next week. It will be interesting to see if the voting public sees Florida as the dystopian hellscape his detractors are selling. I understand he has obtained a lot of endorsements in Iowa, much to the disgust of the Trump faction and the Democrats, both of whom have reasons to desire a Trump nomination. Trump sees himself as unbeatable and the Democrats fear anyone except Trump might be unbeatable against a Biden/Harris ticket.

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    There was an article in the NYT today, "If DeSantis Can't Beat Trump, Can Ramaswamy?" What do you GOPers think about Ramaswamy as an option?
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    There was an article in the NYT today, "If DeSantis Can't Beat Trump, Can Ramaswami?" What do you GOPers think about Ramaswami as an option?
    I know he made his money in biotech and wrote a number of books critical of “woke capitalism” and favoring the traditional kind. Andrew Yang seems to really like him. Doesn’t poll terribly well, but that may just be a name recognition thing. What little I’ve heard about him is relatively positive (by my heartless capitalist free speech lights). But some conservative writers seem to believe he’s in it for self-promotion rather than conviction. He’s got an anti-woke ETF with a fairly high expense ratio.

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