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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    Sounds very annoying, Tradd! I think you're right--they don't want to work at simply following a guide. They'd rather ask you and interrupt your concentration. I hope your new solution works out!

    side note: I used to sing in the choir years ago, and I really loved it. I'm sure your congregation loves your choir's music--it's a wonderful contribution.
    The iPad solution worked VERY well, plus it was really nice not having to flip through the big binder! The director’s teenaged daughter is now inspired to bring her own iPad to church on future Sundays.
    The women who are at the stand next to me tried looking at my stand at the very beginning of the service to see where we were. You should have seen their surprise. It was actually kinda funny. When they asked me why I did it, after the service, just told them I’d seen the director with her iPad and since I’m pretty paperless myself, thought I would try it. Didn’t tell them the real reason, lol

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    Re: the group home for transient recovering alcoholics on my block:

    I have accepted the fact that Nanny Government, in her infinite wisdom, has declared nine unrelated transient men are to be treated as a “family “under city zoning laws. Nanny has spoken, and there ain’t much I can do about it apparently. This is a provision of the Fair Housing Act where anyone with a “disability “is automatically treated as family under the law.


    My city is not interested in fighting this in court. One of my neighbors says that these men are an NOT actually to be considered disabled because they have spent one year in the alcohol recovery program and have graduated from that. Apparently a court case in Missouri found in favor of neighbors who are fighting this exact thing.


    So that will be interesting to see what comes of this approach. I suppose we will have to cough up money to engage an attorney.

    One of the things that pisses me off is that these men are transient. They are here for four weeks. Or eight weeks. Or? There is no set time.

    If this was a group home for men with intellectual disabilities, for instance, they would be living here full-time, this would be their permanent home. A Stable population. They would be invested in our block and in our neighborhood.

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    Yeah, alkies are gonna alkie. I don’t have good personal experience with former drunks. And being an alkie (or a former kne) is not a f’ing disability. Give me a f’ing break.

    IL, hope they don’t cause crime or other trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    Yeah, alkies are gonna alkie. I don’t have good personal experience with former drunks. And being an alkie (or a former kne) is not a f’ing disability. Give me a f’ing break.

    IL, hope they don’t cause crime or other trouble.
    I don’t think they’re going to cause crime because the riffraff has been weeded out by these guys paying $5000-$6000 per month. Yes, you read that right, per month. The trouble will be nine cars coming and going daily because each one of these guys has a car, on a quiet block, crammed into one driveway, and then their visitors. From week to week, we never know who’s going to be there.

    Yet we are not allowed by nanny government to consider this a “business” or a commercial enterprise.

    more than a dozen years ago we celebrated the end of the last boarding house in my city neighborhood. How ironic that I now have the equivalent of a boarding house just up the block.


    There is money to be made in the substance-abuse industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    Yeah, alkies are gonna alkie. I don’t have good personal experience with former drunks. And being an alkie (or a former kne) is not a f’ing disability. Give me a f’ing break.

    IL, hope they don’t cause crime or other trouble.
    You can believe whatever myth you want but alcoholism is a disease under ADA. Many abuse alcohol because they have untreated mental health disorders and don’t realize it. So they self medicate trying to feel better. It’s generally accepted that there’s a genetic component also which is why it tends to run in certain families and while some people can have a drink or two and others can’t stop after one.

    Luckily people can and do stop everyday but it’s a lifelong struggle for many. Alcoholism is not a moral failing and you aren’t superior if you don’t have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    You can believe whatever myth you want but alcoholism is a disease under ADA. Many abuse alcohol because they have untreated mental health disorders and don’t realize it. So they self medicate trying to feel better. It’s generally accepted that there’s a genetic component also which is why it tends to run in certain families and while some people can have a drink or two and others can’t stop after one.

    Luckily people can and do stop everyday but it’s a lifelong struggle for many. Alcoholism is not a moral failing and you aren’t superior if you don’t have it.
    Well said, Terry... while alcoholics can and do wreak havoc on families and on their own lives, many are redeemed through sobriety. It's not easy, but a lot of people do it, and those that are in early recovery can benefit from programs like limited-stay sober houses. I do hope your fears of disruption in the neighborhood aren't realized, IL.
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    This sober house commercial enterprise can pull in the big bucks because he claims a success rate of 70%. That is after being in business for two years.

    Two years is a short time in the world of addiction. Smells like a bit of a scam for desperate people.

    As for alcoholism being disability, sure it’s a disease. But apparently a court in Missouri ruled that after a year of treatment, you are disease-free. I said “apparently” because that’s what my neighbor told me and I have not checked that out myself.

    Where would we Dumbo citizens be without Nanny Government to rule who has a disease and is disabled and who isn’t?
    To rule who is a woman and who isn’t? We Dumbos are no longer qualified to make those determinations because rational thought has left the building.

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    Federal law on disability will supersede state law. Thankfully substance abuse is no longer a disability which allows you to collect SSDI unless you have an accompanying medical condition like liver disease because some people used it not to work. People with disabilities do need protection under the law. Determining who’s a man or woman not so much).

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    I’ll agree alkieism is a disease, but not a disability. F’ck, just about any damn thing could be considered a disability these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    …just about any damn thing could be considered a disability these days.
    Bingo.

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