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Thread: Do you believe you can "do what you love, and the money will follow?"

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    My take is that up to a point, you can make what you want of monotony and bad bosses.
    But there is no value in staying with a bad boss. I stayed with one for awhile, insults were regularly hurled at employees. I saw a job ad and actually got the FIRST job I applied for elsewhere. A few months later the employees still working at the place I left all got laid off. A year or so after that the company went under. Those who put up with the abuse longer got no prize for their suffering, in fact they got layoff notices. I've had many better bosses since. Like I said putting up with a bad boss is just completely pointless unless you really do have no other opportunities ever.
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    My take on this is all over the place. but what isn't?

    Yes, but how is really the situation. it's going to be different for everyone.

    Work that you enjoy/love doesn't have to be your primary passion for income or how you spend your time. How do I explain?

    Like, Sissy says that she does bookkeeping, and she finds it within her capacity or easy. Right? it's comfortable and safe and gives steady, secure income. It's not a passion, but it's something she finds pleasant enough to do, and this in turn allows her to devote her time to the arts in a way that isn't freighted with worry or concern or instability, which allows that creative (imo at least) to flow more easily. And any financial reward that comes from it is simply bonus.

    I have a friend who is a computer programmer by day -- making a very solid living -- and by nights and weekends he's a tennis maniac. he loves to play, teach lessons, go to tournaments, etc etc etc. So, in the evenings and weekends, this is what he does. he wanted to be pro, but couldn't, and then tried to be a pro at a club (you know, doing that full time), but the wasn't happy with the money/lifestyle, and so to really enjoy his passion, he got a job that could support him more than comfortably (he's single, out of debt, owns his own condo, car, and goes to wimbleton and the us open when he feels like it, kwim?). He can also just play tennis and be involved in tennis with NO pressure around the tennis. Does he make money at tennis? yes. Does he need it to support himself? no. But his life is very enjoyable and he's not unhappy in either of his "work" roles.

    I tried this path, I truly did. It didn't work for me. I really struggled with the day job -- even though it was easy and safe -- and I really struggled with my yoga teaching being subject to the bosses rules about how they wanted it in their gyms, yoga studios, etc. It wasn't always rough, but rules were tough on me. And also not having a direct impact on the culture. I just don't do well having people work over me.

    I'm also ok with risk and uncertainty, and so when I finally had enough courage and had had enough frustration, I just did what I needed to do. i started my own business.

    It's A LOT more work than anything I've ever done before. But, it's also a lot more rewarding to me than how I worked before. Thus, i had to follow my double-bliss, and do it this way. And, the money is following.

    The real question is -- what makes your bliss, blissful?

    For my friend, working his bliss as a business (tennis) was not bliss-inducing. it was stress inducing. So he got a job that was pleasant and comfortable, and his bliss became his bliss again and also makes him some money (but the money doesn't matter to him).

    For me, working my bliss as an employee, and being employed besides, was not bliss-inducing, it was stress inducing. So, I ditched what wasn't working, started my own business, and now not only is my "work" of my business bliss, but also my bliss (teaching yoga) is bliss!

    So yeah, follow your bliss!

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    Perhaps a better title would be Do What You Love and the Riches Will Follow. Is it money we want, or what money can pay for, whether it's security, hobbies, travel, etc. Being paid for work is great, but spending it on the things that make us happy is up to us.

    Everyone wants a job or career we enjoy, but in most cases, that's just one third of your day. A major third, of course, with another third spent sleeping. The other 8 hours is all yours, shared with your family or friends or pets or spent doing what you love, hopefully. Having something to look forward to outside of work is important.

    My last job was as a proofreader for a large supermarket chain. All day long my coworkers and I edited sales flyers for spelling and punctuation errors and layout changes. It was boring and monotonous. One coworker loved it; for the rest of us, it was just a job. I'm nitpicky and like things done correctly so I was good at it. However, if that was all I had to think about and look forward to day after day, I'd poke my eyes out with my red marker. Spending time with my animals, being outdoors, reading, good movies--all these things outside of my job were worth those boring 8 hours. Having a job I really loved would have been the icing on the cake.

    I agree about not having a hobby as a career, in most cases. Years ago I made miniature furniture for my dollhouse and a few people wanted me to make pieces for them. It wasn't fun anymore, money or not. I'm branching out into Reflexology. Love doing it, but dread the thought of finding clients and promoting myself. Money won't be coming my way unless I do, no matter how much I enjoy it. Maybe the payment is the pleasure of doing it, and not monetary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladyinblack1964 View Post
    ...For a while, I had a job I truly loved (newspaper reporter) but after some corporate changes, it went south, and so did my position. Since then I have been searching for something that will "work" for me.

    A friend of mine posted on Facebook today on my wall: basic to Buddhism is that based on past and present actions we create or own happiness and misery. Nobody has or will have the answers you are seeking. You have to trust in yourself. So, listen to your heart and follow what you truly want to be. You left or were unhappy with your past jobs for a reason and it is best not to repeat what was not satisfying in the past. Ask yourself why you were unhappy and make a list. Make a list of what makes you happy. List your skills. List what you want to learn or what you what to do or be and go for it. Then, success will follow.

    I have an interview this week for a job in a field I worked in before, and HATED for 13 years. But I'm running out of options.

    What do you think of what my friend said? ....
    Very interesting topic, I read through all of the posts. For me, the career I have now is my fourth, and hopefully last. It is the best one yet. I love the work and although the money is not great, I am not in it for the money but for the lifestyle and the joy it gives me. But it was an arduous path.

    I have done many different jobs so far in my life. Did I love all of them? NO but did I like the money they gave me or the experience, or the people, or whatever else it gave me to get to where I am today? YES.

    Just to give you an idea of what jobs I had:
    Babysitter (found I had a kid's mindset, but did not deal well with bratty kids)

    Waitress (found I was not a spunky person and did not like serving people for money but the pay was good)

    Cashier & cook at Burger King, Pizza Hut, and TGIY(ogurt) - (Was great as a cashier, but found I did not like serving people, but the pay was OK, and the benefits (free food) was good.

    Cashier & coffee maker at 7-11 - Like it, was a little afraid of being robbed, but pay was good and I liked the busyness of the store.

    Warehouse stocker - boring work but was with a friend, so it was fun.

    Field geologist hunting for dinosaur bones - LOVED the job, but no money, LOVED the environment and living conditions, but the job was only two summers.

    Environmental Geologist - I looked for oil where it was NOT supposed to be - basically oil spills, hazardous materials, cleanups, etc. Great work, felt good about it, great money, good people. But the work dried up. I did this type of work for almost 10 years and did everything from working in a lab, digging wells, working in the dirt, and extremely dirty, smelly work. Some of which I hated, some I loved.

    I also did analyst work during that time, loved the work, hated the boss and the people I worked with, then found an analyst / geologist job that I loved but the company went under.

    Finally, the last job I had within the environmental industry, I lasted 6 months - I worked 10 day on and four days off. During the off days, I volunteered as a computer instructor. I loved that job, but there was no pay.

    I quit the environmental sector to become a computer trainer and did that in various capacities for eight years, ultimately having my own business for four years. Some things I loved - like working with people, helping people understand technology, I was great at marketing, and designing websites, but I had a devil of a time getting the money I deserved.

    But it brought me to my last career - Park Ranger. As I was starting to lose clients (I worked with Realtors right before the crash of the housing market!) or clients were not paying me for work done, I was volunteering at a national park. I found I loved this job the best, My best skills in marketing, education, analyst, geologist, research, cashier, even kids' mindset were used for this job. I loved everything about it. And ultimately, I got paid for the job I love.

    So sometimes the path you take is not the last one. Mixing it up, trying new things, doing different jobs, jumping from job to job, is not a bad way to go. You will ultimately find what you like best and you will be able to make money from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lhamo View Post
    That being said, if I could figure out a way to get people to pay me to sit around and drink coffee and research/write about stuff that interests me, that would be great. Grad school was more or less perfect My DH had the mistaken idea that that was the job description of a college professor, and he has always kind of mourned leaving academia. But I know from watching colleagues that they have a lot more sturm and drang and unpleasant stuff in that kind of career than most people guess. Many become quite bitter and jaded.
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    Bitter and Jaded here! Lost my health because of Ivy League Academic Stress Syndrome (I just made that condition up; but don't worry, in a few years it will be a verifiable illness).

    I too loved being in grad school!! There's just nothing like getting paid to sit around drinking coffee, reading books, talking about books, going to interesting talks.... too bad the administrative side of life got the better of me later on. Now I teach part time, and make very little money.

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