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    but I'm talking about going from The Office to The Oval Office without any trial period.
    I would hope that would not happen - isnt the electorate at least that smart? Maybe that's asking too much. Palin came very close if McCain had been elected. She was not an actor per se, but a celebrity candidate none the less. Some would say the same of Obama, but at least he has a few brain cells to rub together.

    As to the electoral college, doing away with them, though an idea some think timely, would change the complextion of elections and governance. What candidate would ever campaign in a small state or rural area again? Just hit the big cities and pander to city dwellers because they are where the most numbers of votes are.

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    No!

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    I think it's an interesting question.

    It's true that we are melding celebrity with politics--I think it has to do with the fact that people tend to vote for people they know. A lot of people don't follow political news--but they do follow TV entertainment, and the trailblazers Gina mentioned have opened the door for people like Al Franken (I liked him on SNL, but can't stand that thought that he's in office--Talk about government by sarcasm).

    Even though I'm registered independent but have voted Democrat almost exclusively, I actually leave the door open on the Trump question, like Greg. I don't dismiss him out of hand. I think he's smart, self-confident (understatement), decisive. Most of all, he seems to really love what he does and does what he loves.

    Anna Quindlen once wrote a great op-ed piece on how all of the greatest presidents transmit a joie de vivre that somehow infects the citizens. You might not like Ronald Reagan, but he sure had that optimistic smile on every single day. Same with Clinton--he seemed like a kid in a candy store running the country. Both easily got in a second term.

    Contrast that with Jimmy Carter, who Quindlen said ran the country as if he were doing the Stations of the Cross. He was a one-term president. I voted for Obama, but I don't get the feeing he's lovin' it in the White House. I don't know.

    I'm from New Jersey, and, despite my Democratic leanings, I think Chris Christie is a breath of fresh air. I would like to see a president bring the same kind of fearless commitment to the job. Not saying Trump would do that, but I'd give him the opportunity to at least make a good case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I'd love to see him run. As a Democrat.
    LMAO!

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    "Buy low, sell high, get rich and you still die,
    Money talks, people jump, ask how high low life Donald What's-his-name,
    And who cares? I don't want to know what his girlfriend doesn't wear,
    It's a shame that people that work want to hear about this kind of jerk." - John Gorka

    Really the subject leaves me profoundly indifferent. Of course he's not qualified. Then again some good qualifications have done us either, when the political system is entirely corrupt.

    He could try running for governor instead . (Hey honestly I didn't think our famous governor was that bad, though I prefer the current Jerry Brown, who doesn't have an ounce of charm, and I absolutely love that!)

    ETA: Amazon sought fit to recommend this book to me today: "The Image: A Guide to Pseudo-Events in America", I don't know if I'll ever read it, but Donald Trump does sound like one big walking pseudo-event!
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    We're so secure/safe/well fed in this country that I guess we can afford to waste our choices of president. Its sort of like Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Most of us in the U.S. have food/clothing/shelter/laws that protect us and our property, and much, much more. I guess because we feel so secure, we can be flippant about who's in charge. Can you imagine the people of Eqypt now choosing a rock star/movie star or some other kind of idol? Even our poor have so much more than the poor of many other nations. I'll bet its the people who are ignorant of how much they really do have, and are ignorant of what it would truly feel like to lose it all, who are being silly in voting for the celebrity-du-jour for president.

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    We're so secure/safe/well fed in this country that I guess we can afford to waste our choices of president. Its sort of like Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Most of us in the U.S. have food/clothing/shelter/laws that protect us and our property, and much, much more. I guess because we feel so secure, we can be flippant about who's in charge.
    Sometimes I am sympathetic to the argument that there is something psychologically wrong with the masses of people that makes them so apathetic. And the critique has often been made that people have no real training in freedom and democracy.

    But I think it's more people don't see much difference regardless of who they vote for now. However voting for Trump would be a bad communication to make. It's sending a message "we really don't give a darn! we really really really don't!"

    Can you imagine the people of Eqypt now choosing a rock star/movie star or some other kind of idol?
    I don't fully understand the movement in Egypt, don't know any more than anyone what will evolve out of it (nor whether it will turn fanatical or whether U.S. involvement will end up sabotaging it (or both)). Maybe unlike the U.S. they'll get leaders that don't bankrupt their country, transfer their money to banksters, outsource their jobs, sell their environmental protections to the highest bidder, and then through the IMF work on weakening demand for the debt! We can only wish them well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    With his two very public divorces, bimba wives, his bankruptcies and other odd financial dealings, I doubt he would make it past both the religious right or the fiscal conservatives in the GOP. To be president, you have to gain the nomination via the various state primaries and then the convention. I doubt Mr Trump would be able to do that.

    Of course voters will forgive almost any transgression of someone in their own political party, so who knows?
    I found this thread from 2011.

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    Too funny!

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    Ouch

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