geriatricians

[JaneV2.0]

I decided to take Medicare up on the free annual wellness visit with a primary doc this week. It will be interesting to see what that consists of. I know they will be stuck on whether I've had all the old people shots and tests*. I'm a non-compliant patient where that's concerned.

*I call that the geriatric death-spiral cocktail.

[Rogar]

There is plenty of online information on statins from recognized medical sources like the Harvard School of Medicine, the Mayo Clinic, Lancet, JAMA, and even AARP and NPR to make a personal decision. They all share similar conclusions. Step outside of the core medical community and you're likely to get different fringe opinions, just like Covid vaccinations. Sort of comes down to who you trust the most.

[herbgeek]

There is plenty of online information on statins from recognized medical sources

Studies that focus on men, yes. There are way fewer studies that include women, and many of those are inconclusive as to whether statins are effective for women. Lowering LDL doesn't seem to have a strong correlation with reduced cardiovascular events for women.

[Rogar]

Studies that focus on men, yes. There are way fewer studies that include women, and many of those are inconclusive as to whether statins are effective for women. Lowering LDL doesn't seem to have a strong correlation with reduced cardiovascular events for women.

That could be something for people to look into. I'm just saying the information is out there and there are a lot of myths that may or may not be true. Everyone has a choice and hopefully it's based on correct information, and it's out there. I read one of the Amazon books hammering statins, can't recall the name, maybe the truth about statins or something, but I didn't buy it. That was not my trusted source.

My humble personal opinion is that a decision should be based on an overal cardiovascular risk. Younger people, people with a healthy life style and diet, reasonable blood pressure, and other basic health markers like weight or what ever could probably put up a strong argument against statins. As we get older some of those things start to slip unavoidably and it might be time. It might also include family genetics and histories of cardio vascular events. And anyone with a previous cardiovascular event should probably be on statins, unless they want to take the addition risk of a second event. That was my conclusion after looking into it.

[iris lilies]

That could be something for people to look into. I'm just saying the information is out there and there are a lot of myths that may or may not be true. Everyone has a choice and hopefully it's based on correct information, and it's out there. I read one of the Amazon books hammering statins, can't recall the name, maybe the truth about statins or something, but I didn't buy it. That was not my trusted source.

My humble personal opinion is that a decision should be based on an overal cardiovascular risk. Younger people, people with a healthy life style and diet, reasonable blood pressure, and other basic health markers like weight or what ever could probably put up a strong argument against statins. As we get older some of those things start to slip unavoidably and it might be time. It might also include family genetics and histories of cardio vascular events. And anyone with a previous cardiovascular event should probably be on statins, unless they want to take the addition risk of a second event. That was my conclusion after looking into it.

A lifetime of testosterone could yield different risk factors from a lifetime of much less testosterone. Women may be different from men.

[Rogar]

A lifetime of testosterone could yield different risk factors from a lifetime of much less testosterone. Women may be different from men.

Yup. I would assume the mainstream studies would take gender into consideration and they would specify and inquiring minds would know. A person can certainly speculate. Maybe the risk is more or maybe less? It does seem like women are catching with men for cardiovascular risk.

[iris lilies]

Yup. I would assume the mainstream studies would take gender into consideration and they would specify and inquiring minds would know. A person can certainly speculate. Maybe the risk is more or maybe less? It does seem like women are catching with men for cardiovascular risk.

The posters above have said that studies on women are inconclusive. There aren’t that many studies. I don’t know if true because I don’t follow that stuff but I’ve heard it over and over.

I read your post as though you assume the data is there. We are telling you the data is not there.

[Rogar]

The posters above have said that studies on women are inconclusive. There aren’t that many studies. I don’t know if true because I don’t follow that stuff but I’ve heard it over and over.

I read your post as though you assume the data is there. We are telling you the data is not there.

Not a problem. I'm not assuming anything and I don't know where people have or have not looked. As long as people have done some independent looking into reliable sources instead of relying on rumor, web posts, or myth, I'm fine. Actually I'm fine otherwise, too. I've made my own conclusions, as above.

I'm actually fine if people refuse all medications and spin the wheel of fortune. It's not my life and I'm only explaining my logic.

[frugal-one]

That could be something for people to look into. I'm just saying the information is out there and there are a lot of myths that may or may not be true. Everyone has a choice and hopefully it's based on correct information, and it's out there. I read one of the Amazon books hammering statins, can't recall the name, maybe the truth about statins or something, but I didn't buy it. That was not my trusted source.

My humble personal opinion is that a decision should be based on an overal cardiovascular risk. Younger people, people with a healthy life style and diet, reasonable blood pressure, and other basic health markers like weight or what ever could probably put up a strong argument against statins. As we get older some of those things start to slip unavoidably and it might be time. It might also include family genetics and histories of cardio vascular events. And anyone with a previous cardiovascular event should probably be on statins, unless they want to take the addition risk of a second event. That was my conclusion after looking into it.

We came to entirely different conclusions. After researching, you could not pay me enough to take a statin. herbgeek and I have been reading the same information evidently.

[Rogar]

We came to entirely different conclusions. After researching, you could not pay me enough to take a statin. herbgeek and I have been reading the same information evidently.

I'm glad you have found the answer. I assume your info was from reliable sources and possibly even peer reviewed. Or heaven forbid, a real in person doctor who knows your personal medical history and current state of health. I don't know what you've been reading and quite honestly barely care. It's your wheel of fortune.

Cancer, heart disease and stroke are the top causes of death in the US, and regardless of medications, one or the other is likely to get most of us. Nothing we do is going to prevent that. It's just a matter of sooner or later.