View Full Version : OK, I have a logical answer!
gimmethesimplelife
4-15-14, 11:09pm
Finally I have a reason for all the inquiries from DES. Turns out I applied on health.gov three times - first time right after the site went live, and we all know what an epic fail the site was to begin with. I also applied two more times and never made it to the end but apparently all three of these applications are coming back to cause me issues with DES now. I finally ended out applying through the State of Arizona and that application, for the most part, went smoothly. I think what I should do is go on over to DES and explain the above and see if they can just combine all this information for me into one account.
I did go to the navigator's office last Friday and I did have the paperwork that DES requested scanned but did not get a confirmation, so I went on over to DES later in the day Friday and repeated this step and from DES I received a confirmation, so from this point forward, I will be dealing exclusively with DES. I guess I can't hold it all against DES at this point now that there is a logical explanation.....All the same, until this gets straightened out and months have passed I will be going to Mexicali as planned. But this time not resentfully, and I do appreciate that. Rob
awakenedsoul
4-15-14, 11:19pm
That's great Rob! You know what's weird? The shadow side of the first chakra is resentment. Turn it into a positive, and it's acceptance. Sounds like you're there. (Just thought I'd throw that in, since you were on the chakra thread.) I'm sure this is a load off your mind.
ApatheticNoMore
4-16-14, 2:54am
Sounds *exactly* like my problems with the DMV (department of motor vehicles). I mean it was my best guess that my problems with the DMV were caused by them having multiple records in their system for my car (after the car got salvaged). Because every single thing about the problem behaved like that was the case! But it's not like I can get in the DMVs data and fix it! So I just had to deal with frustration after frustration and stupidity after stupidity and waiting an hour to see someone at the DMV every single time I tried to get it straightened out (cause it's the DMV afterall, and they're notorious for long wait times and the auto-club doesn't handle those issues).
I still can't file my income taxes electronically. My last name, which is darned unique, has two letters reversed in the IRS verification database, which they source from some internal Social Security database. There is no person in the entire world with the reversed-letter version of the name. The name on my Social Security records that are provided to me is spelled correctly, this is some buried-deep shadow version with the error.
The only way to correct it involves mailing the *original* of some hard-to-replace documents to them.... Sure....
Also, I just today got in the mail the final decision on a dispute I've had with the IRS that has been running for over a year now. It involves a $230 deduction on a tax return, a deduction that if *removed entirely* results in no change in the tax due because it gets eliminated later in the arcane tax calculation process, so their decision *doesn't matter anyways*. There have been over 25 paper mail exchanges between us on this matter to date. Their decision after all this "congratulations, you were right, and it doesn't matter anyways...". I suspect it cost thousands for them to figure that out.
Simpler at Fifty
4-16-14, 7:44am
I still can't file my income taxes electronically. My last name, which is darned unique, has two letters reversed in the IRS verification database, which they source from some internal Social Security database. There is no person in the entire world with the reversed-letter version of the name. The name on my Social Security records that are provided to me is spelled correctly, this is some buried-deep shadow version with the error.
The only way to correct it involves mailing the *original* of some hard-to-replace documents to them.... Sure....
Also, I just today got in the mail the final decision on a dispute I've had with the IRS that has been running for over a year now. It involves a $230 deduction on a tax return, a deduction that if *removed entirely* results in no change in the tax due because it gets eliminated later in the arcane tax calculation process, so their decision *doesn't matter anyways*. There have been over 25 paper mail exchanges between us on this matter to date. Their decision after all this "congratulations, you were right, and it doesn't matter anyways...". I suspect it cost thousands for them to figure that out.
They are out to get you Bae. Move to Mexico where everything will be smooth sailin'. ;)
They are out to get you Bae. Move to Mexico where everything will be smooth sailin'. ;)
Yep, Rob and James Taylor got it right.
Way down here you need a reason to move
Feel a fool running your stateside games
Lose your load, leave your mind behind, Baby James
Oh, Mexico
It sounds so simple I just got to go
The sun's so hot I forgot to go home
Guess I'll have to go now
I still can't file my income taxes electronically. My last name, which is darned unique, has two letters reversed in the IRS verification database, which they source from some internal Social Security database. There is no person in the entire world with the reversed-letter version of the name. The name on my Social Security records that are provided to me is spelled correctly, this is some buried-deep shadow version with the error.
The only way to correct it involves mailing the *original* of some hard-to-replace documents to them.... Sure....
Also, I just today got in the mail the final decision on a dispute I've had with the IRS that has been running for over a year now. It involves a $230 deduction on a tax return, a deduction that if *removed entirely* results in no change in the tax due because it gets eliminated later in the arcane tax calculation process, so their decision *doesn't matter anyways*. There have been over 25 paper mail exchanges between us on this matter to date. Their decision after all this "congratulations, you were right, and it doesn't matter anyways...". I suspect it cost thousands for them to figure that out.
This happened with us and I gotta tell you, good record keeping is the thing! We were able to answer their you-owe-us bully letter with all the documentation they could want (and probably more than they expected). We got our 'never mind' letter too.:D
Rob--Stuff happens. Glad you could straightened it out. Not every mistake the gov makes is some sort of evil plot to ruin our lives. Sometimes, most of the time really, it's just a mistake. Or in this case the confusion of multiple filings. Actually, we can appreciate the due diligence of the process when they get conflicting information. If they simply let it go, or gave you more than you needed, how many folks who criticize this case now would flip on a dime and complain about the lack of oversight! Some will never be satisfied, and will find devils under every rock simply because they expect to find them there.
But I'm glad you are getting it straightened out. :)
ToomuchStuff
4-16-14, 11:22am
So all the ranting really did was get your blood pressure up and screwed with your health?:sick:
This happened with us and I gotta tell you, good record keeping is the thing! We were able to answer their you-owe-us bully letter with all the documentation they could want (and probably more than they expected). We got our 'never mind' letter too.:D
It is quite odd though, it was a relatively small amount of money, for an item (bar association dues) their own publications list as an example of the sort of item to place on the line on the Schedule A. And it gets put in a spot that makes it subject to the 2% AGI limit. If I had placed $0 for that item, it would not have changed the tax due, because of that 2% AGI limit.
I only put in the item because of my record keeping, and that expense had been placed in its proper place on my returns for...decades.
I explained this all, with pointers to the tax code, detailed records, receipts, and the fact that whatever the decision was, it wouldn't change the tax a single cent. I explained this all in my very first response to the matter. Which they received, as the referred to it all in the next mail exchange.
I have no idea why they required going back-and-forth so many times for so long, and spent so much money on the affair.
If I were into conspiracy theories, though, I'd notice the fact that the return that got picked out for this run-me-through-the-ringer process was for the tax year in which I was a delegate to the Republican convention, was elected to a local office, and created several non-profits that might have appeared to the naïve eye as evil-right-wing-tea-party-related.
Of course, I trust my government never to abuse its power to audit and harass with paperwork for purely political reasons. Just like I trust it not to read my email.
.....If I were into conspiracy theories, though, I'd notice the fact that the return that got picked out for this run-me-through-the-ringer process was for the tax year in which I was a delegate to the Republican convention, was elected to a local office, and created several non-profits that might have appeared to the naïve eye as evil-right-wing-tea-party-related.
Of course, I trust my government never to abuse its power to audit and harass with paperwork for purely political reasons. Just like I trust it not to read my email.
I don't think you need to be a conspiracy theorist.
Remember that little IRS brouhaha centered around a couple of over-zealous IRS employees in the Cincinnati office? The one where the top IRS official with oversight of the division refused to testify before Congress? The one which our President's last word on the subject was "There's not even a smidgen of corruption"?
Well, now it seems that the very day before the IRS official staged a question in a conference call, a question designed to allow her to reveal, and apologize for, her division's unwarranted scrutiny of certain groups, that IRS division head was corresponding with the DOJ regarding criminal prosecutions of those same groups. http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/jw-obtains-irs-documents-showing-lerner-contact-doj-potential-prosecution-tax-exempt-groups/
If that revelation is an accurate harbinger of their intentions, you're lucky they let you off with nothing more than a trip through the bureaucratic maze.
If that revelation is an accurate harbinger of their intentions, you're lucky they let you off with nothing more than a trip through the bureaucratic maze.
I bet there's less corruption in Mexico, right?
I bet there's less corruption in Mexico, right?
Mexico's da BOMB!! Or so I hear.
gimmethesimplelife
4-16-14, 4:15pm
Mexico's da BOMB!! Or so I hear.It sure has been da BOMB for many years for those who can't afford American healthcare. It continues to be da BOMB in it's safer areas for those who want to ditch what the American workplace has become and get out of the rat race sooner. I wouldn't be making fun of Mexico - at any one time there are a million US citizens living in Mexico, and this is by US Federal Statistics. Some to work for corporations, some self employed, some retired, I suppose some up to shady things, too. My point is that there are those for whom Mexico works and America doesn't. True, Mexico is not without problems (and neither is the US for that matter!!!!!) but it is worthy of respect as like I said, there are those for whom it works better than the US. Some respect would not be uncalled for, perhaps? Rob
gimmethesimplelife
4-16-14, 4:18pm
I bet there's less corruption in Mexico, right?Granted that there is a lot of corruption in Mexico, yes. But.....the US is without corruption itself? Granted, maybe not quite to the level of Mexico but without corruption at all? Rob
. Some respect would not be uncalled for, perhaps? Rob
I certainly respected those nice young men sitting on their armored vehicles with their fingers on the machine guns that were sorta-kinda pointed at me as I went through the checkpoints every day last time I was down there.
Oddly the Canadians don't do that.
It sure has been da BOMB for many years for those who can't afford American healthcare. It continues to be da BOMB in it's safer areas for those who want to ditch what the American workplace has become and get out of the rat race sooner. I wouldn't be making fun of Mexico......
So, even though you agree with my statement, my statement is wrong? Color me confused.
gimmethesimplelife
4-16-14, 4:21pm
I certainly respected those nice young men sitting on their armored vehicles with their fingers on the machine guns that were sorta-kinda pointed at me as I went through the checkpoints every day last time I was down there.
Oddly the Canadians don't do that.America will drive people to accept that Bae. Things for some people have come to that point. And no I don't care for such situations but view them as an unfortunate price of affordable health care. Rob
To date, where I go in Mexico, there have been no such checkpoints. I am however aware they exist elsewhere, though.
gimmethesimplelife
4-16-14, 4:22pm
So, even though you agree with my statement, my statement is wrong? Color me confused.Alan, sorry, I thought you were poking fun at Mexico. If I misunderstood, I'm sorry. Rob
Alan, sorry, I thought you were poking fun at Mexico. If I misunderstood, I'm sorry. Rob
I was simply parroting the sentiment you've expressed for us on an almost daily basis for several years. It was less poking fun at Mexico than poking fun at you and your fascination with our southern neighbor. >8)
gimmethesimplelife
4-16-14, 4:35pm
I was simply parroting the sentiment you've expressed for us on an almost daily basis for several years. It was less poking fun at Mexico than poking fun at you and your fascination with our southern neighbor. >8)Poke fun all you want, the fact remains that lives have been saved due to affordable health care in Mexico and nervous breakdowns have been healed or averted due to being able to check out and go somewhere much cheaper to do whatever it is one needs to do to heal. I will always stand up for Mexico as I have seen it act as the ultimate safety valve for Americans - and I've seen Canadians use it this way, too. Rob
Rob, since you think Mexico is so wonderful (which we've all heard over and over) - why in the world are you not living there now?
Personally, I will never go back to Mexico ever again, for many different reasons....
That's great Rob! You know what's weird? The shadow side of the first chakra is resentment. Turn it into a positive, and it's acceptance. Sounds like you're there. (Just thought I'd throw that in, since you were on the chakra thread.) I'm sure this is a load off your mind.
Well, awakenedsoul, I do believe this is OT and doesn't have anything to do with Rob's OP.
Just calling you out on this since that's what you have done obsessively to posters on your threads....
iris lilies
4-16-14, 7:26pm
Poke fun all you want, the fact remains that lives have been saved due to affordable health care in Mexico and nervous breakdowns have been healed or averted due to being able to check out and go somewhere much cheaper to do whatever it is one needs to do to heal. I will always stand up for Mexico as I have seen it act as the ultimate safety valve for Americans - and I've seen Canadians use it this way, too. Rob
Yes there is documented evidence of Canadians going south of the border for healthcare treatment. South of THEIR border, not necessarily our border.
gimmethesimplelife
4-16-14, 8:46pm
Yes there is documented evidence of Canadians going south of the border for healthcare treatment. South of THEIR border, not necessarily our border.True, some Canadians, usually those with lots of money, do come to the US for health care. I have also run across some in Mexico getting said health care much less expensively. Also Canadians love to come to Mexico for dental work - same quality as in Canada or the US and much much less expensive. I guess it just boils down to how adventurous a Canadian is willing to be? From what I have heard their media does the Mexico is extremely dangerous shtick too. Rob
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