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Hi, everyone who hasn't blocked Me, yet! Here's another one-- a consumerist symbol of how much they can spend, or debt they can run up on the cards. It's Money for nothing. For the female counterpart of the 50-something Harley Guy, The Trip To Hawaii is the Achievement of years of toil! It's sooo much fun--from the Midwest, 10-12 hours each way, cooped up in an airliner and sitting in airports.. Then you get there, and haul your clothing, that you bought specially for the trip, up to your $150-250 a night cubicle. That clothing you purchased is specially designed to make you look 45 again, by hiding the bulges, as you are photographed standing on a Hawaiian Beach at sunset. Then, there are the tourist traps--er--attractions, for something to "do", as you will NOT be going snorkeling or surfing. The highlight of the trip is the "Luaua" Loo-Oww or whatever, where you can do what 50-somethings REALLY love---pigging out on rich food and beverages. Then, to show how Patriotic you are, and that you really, really Support Our Troops, you can visit the Arizona Memorial, filled with drowned sailors and still leaking oil 70 years later. "We" may provide Hawaii with government services, but the Japanese own it, anyway. As an aside, I happened across a typical Harley Guy F'book profile, where he had no personal photo, but a HUGE one of his monster ego "bike", and a story of how he like nothing better than taking his Lady friend for a 160-mile r.t. ride to a certain Pizza place that was his very favorite, on a regular basis. Support our Troops, and support Fracking---they support your Petrol Habit! Anyway, that's the big deal with these 50-something females--senseless junkets to Luxurious Hawaaii, the number one tourist trap. It, is just another excess, to me. Whatever happened to just going to The Black Hills in S.D., like people did in the 1950's? Oh, yeah--that's what the Harley People do now, to waste gas and money. Thank You.
Wow...Yes, I knew you would respond, BAE. You are a "First Responder",and no doubt the exception to my stereotype--after a day of wrestling with sharks in the deep waters, you and your wife
prolly rappelled down the side of a cliff on Mauwi, to save some tourists who got too close to the edge. I commend you.
I've never been to Hawaii, just never had the urge to go, but after reading your description it may go on my bucket list. I have been to the Black Hills of S.D. though. We passed through the area on our way to Yellowstone a few years ago. We intended to stay a couple of days but ended up staying five because, well, there was just so much to see and do. Unfortunately, we didn't see too many Harley's. We were there during the week of the Fourth of July and the motorcycle rally at Sturgis was still a few weeks away. Believe it or not, Sturgis is a quiet, sleepy little town full of friendly people the other 50 weeks of the year. Nearby you've got Deadwood, Mount Rushmore, the Crazy Horse memorial and one of my favorite all-time State Park's, Custer State Park. We spent most of a week enjoying the attractions and scenery and, believe it or not, didn't once feel as though we'd wasted any gas or money. Not even a smidgen.
Of course we spent all of our site-seeing time on our motorcycle. There's no better way to enjoy the scenery along the Needles Highway than from a bike. As a matter of fact, we go to lots of interesting places and do lots of interesting things on our motorcycle. Over the long Memorial Day weekend last month we rode over to West Virginia and spent a couple of days rafting on two of the top 5 rated white water rivers in the country, the New River and the Gauley River. Tonight, as I write this, we're on the bike again at the Cumberland Falls State Resort Park in Kentucky. Today we rode around enjoying the scenery and tomorrow we'll do a full day of kayaking on the Cumberland River.
I hope you'll have the opportunity to do something similar, or at least something different, during this week, the anniversary of our country's birth. God Bless America!
ApatheticNoMore
7-2-14, 9:26pm
Interesting crowd that only goes to Hawaii once in a lifetime in midlife. Any self respecting yuppie goes there every few years at least, if not every year, and has been there a dozen times before they hit 50 (really though many of my cowokers have been that way - Hawaii trips were constant - alternated with international travel)
Aren't stereotypes fun?
Oh, and don't forget to support our troops, for Packy's sake.
Blackdog Lin
7-2-14, 9:55pm
Wow indeed Packy.
FWIW, we were fortunate to get to travel to Hawaii in 2001, for our 25th wedding anniversary (returned home on Sept. 7. Lucky timing, eh?) It was magical. And even back then it befitted our newly-found simpler-living values.
Instead of a fancy expensive resort, we found an affordable ocean-front duplex to rent for 10 days, in the country. A lanai and palm trees and the great Pacific right in front of us every morning. We cooked for ourselves on that lanai for most every meal - realizing only after we got home that in 10 days we had only eaten restaurant meals for 1 breakfast, 1 lunch, and 1 dinner. We shopped in the local grocery stores, and (oh my it was incredible!) purchased fresh ahi from the local fishermen on the beach (we had locals tell us where to go) and grilled it up for dinner at night. Served with fresh (fresh. that word doesn't do justice to the pineapple we ate.) pineapple we bought from the Dole pineapple plantation that was a few miles down the road from us.
Every morning we had to MAKE ourselves get in the rental car and take off to see some sights, because the view and possibilities in front of our duplex was so compelling. What we mostly did was just drive to beaches. We just got in the and drove around the island, going further every day, to new beaches. All different, all with something new to see..... We did no luau's, missed the Pearl Harbor Memorial, and only spent money on one organized tourist-trap - which ended up being well worth the money to see (beautiful Hawaiian gardens, I got to swim under a waterfall, loved it).
Did I mention the shrimp truck? OMG. The most incredible fresh shrimp lunch imaginable. We went back a second time, and cursed that we couldn't make a 3rd.
Our dress every day consisted of our swimsuits and suitable coverups. I of course took too many clothes - other than the one day we went into Honolulu for our "fancy anniversary dinner", we could have gotten by with nothing but the swimsuits and coverups.
I could go on. But will stop here to say....."Packy, you're drunk and wrong. Seeing Hawaii can be worth the trip. And can be done simply and wonderfully, without all the resort money and showing-off....."
rosarugosa
7-2-14, 10:06pm
Hmmm - I'm a "fifty something" female, and I was conceived in Hawaii, for what that's worth, but I haven't been back since. :laff:
I've never heard a bad word about Hawaii--even from my mother, who was notoriously hard to please. With an abundance of natural beauty, lovely weather, endless ocean, relaxed lifestyle... I've known more than one person who left the mainland to retire there.
Last time I went to Hawaii I had to work for my passage on a sailing vessel out of Victoria. I was in charge of celestial navigation and dead reckoning, to compare with my partner's primary navigation of the vessel, which was traditional Micronesian navigational techniques. Very educational. Took about 2 weeks. We sailed back too.
Haere tatou!
Packy, agreed, Hawaii isn't on my short list although I'm certain it's quite beautiful.
I want to make that Achievement to impress others, get all cozy and cramped with other airline passengers, and etc on trips to Prague and Romania, Latvia, Vietnam, Paris, and of course India, my all time bucket list country. I can't see a way to utilize Harleys in those trips, though. I am unsure what Harleys have to do with Hawaii, anyway.
Thanks to everyone, for their input--you've given me a brilliant idea! I would like to encourage the organizers of the Hardley-Doitsons Rally to hold the annual gathering in Hawaii, instead of S.D., from now on. They can have their "Scooters" shipped to the Islands, or they may opt to ride them there. Now THAT is some conspicuous consumption!
Packy, agreed, Hawaii isn't on my short list although I'm certain it's quite beautiful.
I want to make that Achievement to impress others, get all cozy and cramped with other airline passengers, and etc on trips to Prague and Romania, Latvia, Vietnam, Paris, and of course India, my all time bucket list country. I can't see a way to utilize Harleys in those trips, though. I am unsure what Harleys have to do with Hawaii, anyway.Iris, I would be MUCH more impressed if your bucket list of must-visit locales included lovely places like Somalia, Yemen, Libya, North Korea, Pakistan and maybe even South Chicago. All of those would be very intriguing.!Splat!
Iris, I can really recommend India and France out of your list. Havent seen the others but husband wants to see Eastern Europe someday. We are going back to Thailand (Premium Economy only please) this year and next year is and in depth of Oxford, England. But best vacation was Japan because I found out it was as inexpensive (except for airfare) as traveling in the midwest.
My husband says I remember India with rose colored glasses. We spent the first Gulf War in 1991 in the country traveling. They had no gas so we were not challenged by other drivers.
Miss Cellane
7-3-14, 6:45am
I wonder if the trip to Hawaii is based on where you live in the US. Here on the East Coast, I know a few people who have been there, but not many. It takes anywhere from 18-20 hours to get there by plane, which might have something to do with it.
The big trip for people with kids is Florida and Disney. For those without kids, London or Paris, or random other points in Europe.
My brother's been to Hawaii for a few business trips. He flies there, gets off the plane and goes to a meeting, then leaves the meeting and goes back to the airport and flies back to Connecticut. Hasn't seen much of the state except the insides of office buildings.
Blackdog, I would love to get specifics on the locale you stayed at in Hawaii!! It sounds lovely.
Hawaii is part of my work territory so the last 2 times I've been were for work. My friends all think it's really awesome that I get to go there for work. To me, though, office conference rooms look pretty much the same in Honolulu as they do in Bakersfield, CA (also part of my territory) and the traffic is much worse in Honolulu. Of course some of the conference rooms in Honolulu do have AMAZING views!
So, today--and it's funny how timely this is---there's a headline on my msn 'puter tabloid news--that says something like this--"Helen Hunt Shows Off Stunning Body On Maui Beach!". And then, it shows photos of her that presumably have not been doctored. Hunt, is the 50-something actress who has played the hard-to-get-along-with female in a TV series and several mooovies, like "Twister" and "As Good As It Gets". Seeing this "Man Bites Dog" msn news article, we are supposed to be AMAZED that there actually is a 50-something who is NOT yet morbidly obese! I think it is really just a subtle informercial for Hawaii Tourism, featuring a celebrity in the targeted demographic. It also implies that there may be certain exceptions to my stereotype--heck--I'll grant you there are exceptions to almost EVERY stereotype. After the photo shoot, I'll bet she prolly headed to the nearest Luau, though.
Teacher Terry
7-3-14, 2:39pm
I went to Maui once & it was so beautiful. I have also been to Poland & Italy which were rich in history & very beautiful. Went to Thailand in 1998 but the air/water was so polluted & it was so hot & humid that I would never go again. Many beautiful things were there of course too.
In truth, I hate having to do much more than step out the door to visit a nice island...
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Nice View. Really nice. But, one of these days a whale is going to wash up there in hot weather, dead as a doornail. Can you imagine: 500,000,000 Flies?
In truth, I hate having to do much more than step out the door to visit a nice island...
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*wandering in*
This month's AAA magazine calls for trips through the San Juans on Ferries. This is something I could actually do.
I'm also looking for more interesting places in the US. What would you folks recommend on the West side of the USA? (no motorcycle of any sort available)
*wandering in*
This month's AAA magazine calls for trips through the San Juans on Ferries. This is something I could actually do.
I'm also looking for more interesting places in the US. What would you folks recommend on the West side of the USA? (no motorcycle of any sort available)
You've done Santa Fe/Taos, I presume? Lots and lots there.
I want to see iris growing in Salem, Oregon in the season. Two major growers are there. Same for lilies in the season (Washington has a major growers.)
I'm also looking for more interesting places in the US. What would you folks recommend on the West side of the USA? (no motorcycle of any sort available)
If you include Canada in your net, Banff and Jasper National Parks are absolutely lovely.
Gardenarian
7-3-14, 10:11pm
Hey, my brother and SIL just posted some pics on Facebook of their trip to the Black Hills/ Mt. Rushmore.
They rode Ducatis, though.
I have been to Hawaii twice (not so far from SF) and it is a place of immense natural beauty, where all you need is a pair of shorts, a swim suit, and slippers (flip-flops.) Doesn't get much simpler than that.
Simplemind
7-4-14, 12:35am
Whilst swimming in this sea of contempt I would love to wash up on the gentle shores of Hawaii. Sharpen those harpoons, I won't be easy to miss. All 157 middle aged, untanned pounds of me.
Wow...
Wow indeed.
As for Hawaii - I like it there a lot and there are many beautiful non-touristy places away from Waikiki/Honolulu. I was stationed there when I was in the USCG on a ship when I was around 19 or so and really enjoyed it. Didn't get a chance to see and do as much as I would like but was able to travel to some of the other islands, as well as all around Oahu, and it was all simply breathtaking.
ETA: Hawaii can also be a very inexpensive place to visit. There are hostels on all the islands and many places allow free camping too. If flying out from the West Coast there are many package deals that include airfare, hotel, rental car, and activities for a very low cost. There are also many "adventure" type of group travel things that do hiking, scuba diving, biking, horseback riding, whatever. All kinds of cool cultural places to see too. definetly a place worth visiting no matter what your age, size or interest are - lots to do for everyone.
I'm also looking for more interesting places in the US. What would you folks recommend on the West side of the USA? (no motorcycle of any sort available)I love all the State and Nat. Parks in Calif. Especialy Northern Calif. You can see towering redwoods, dramatic coastlines, snowcapped mountains, and beautiful wine country all within a hundred miles or so from each other. Cute towns too.
gimmethesimplelife
7-4-14, 9:23pm
Packy, agreed, Hawaii isn't on my short list although I'm certain it's quite beautiful.
I want to make that Achievement to impress others, get all cozy and cramped with other airline passengers, and etc on trips to Prague and Romania, Latvia, Vietnam, Paris, and of course India, my all time bucket list country. I can't see a way to utilize Harleys in those trips, though. I am unsure what Harleys have to do with Hawaii, anyway.India is on my bucket list, too, big time.....Rob
ToomuchStuff
7-4-14, 10:19pm
Thanks for the laughs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_t44siFyb4
Lots of good ideas for places to see. I've added them to my list.
Thanks!
...cooped up in an airliner and sitting in airports..
One man's hell is another man's (or woman's) heaven. I love airplanes. I love being "cooped up" in them, and I love sitting in airports. Sometimes when I get off a plane I have an urge to stay so I extend my trip with a nice lunch or dinner in one of the airport restaurants.
iris lilies
7-5-14, 12:20pm
One man's hell is another man's (or woman's) heaven. I love airplanes. I love being "cooped up" in them, and I love sitting in airports. Sometimes when I get off a plane I have an urge to stay so I extend my trip with a nice lunch or dinner in one of the airport restaurants.
ok now, that is--odd. I think you should go on that reality show "My Strange Obsession" because that's pretty "out there!" hahah. Not many can relate.:)
iris lilies
7-5-14, 12:22pm
I went to Maui once & it was so beautiful. I have also been to Poland & Italy which were rich in history & very beautiful. Went to Thailand in 1998 but the air/water was so polluted & it was so hot & humid that I would never go again. Many beautiful things were there of course too.
I loved Thailand but yes, damn, it was hot and humid. I wouldn't go again without losing 25 lbs and having a travel wardrobe 100% cotton.
ok now, that is--odd. I think you should go on that reality show "My Strange Obsession" because that's pretty "out there!" hahah. Not many can relate.:)
I figured as much. Maybe I should have been a pilot (no way would I want to be a flight attendant with all those crabby, whiney, demanding passengers).
When I'm confined on a airplane or in an airport there are so many things I can't do that it becomes an opportunity for things I love to do, like read--and iris lilies, I KNOW I can relate to you there!
I been dreaming to go in Hawaii and see the beaches there however i still need a lot of preparation on going in the place cause on my list was the Europe including the Finland country where i heard there are a lot of good hotels. [promotion for specific place removed.]
For those of you who have never been to Hawaii, don't let Packy's mean spirited, snarky and disdainful attack of Luau's and Hula (and her ignorant, intolerant and belittling stereotype about the type of people who attend - who cares how a person looks or their age or gender anyways? Geeze!) make you shy away from attending them. Both are rich old Hawaiian customs dating back hundreds and hundreds of years. They are a big part of traditional Hawaiian culture, and the local people take great pride in them and often spend a great deal of their lives trying to retain these in original forms. Just because some of them take place in nice hotels for tourists doesn't take away from their authenticity and beauty.
Teacher Terry
7-7-14, 7:05pm
Agreed! We enjoyed both while there.
As I struggle to get into my coconut bra and grass skirt that is two sizes too small, I'm still trying to figure out the greater sin....... is it spending money on things you can't afford, or being able to afford expensive things but having the bad taste to enjoy them in public? If I'm going to be held in contempt I want to make sure I understand why so when I don't care, I will know exactly what I don't care about. BTW, has anybody seen my Crocs? It is gonna be hard to rock this outfit without 'em.
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iris lilies
7-7-14, 11:14pm
As I struggle to get into my coconut bra and grass skirt that is two sizes too small, I'm still trying to figure out the greater sin....... is it spending money on things you can't afford, or being able to afford expensive things but having the bad taste to enjoy them in public? If I'm going to be held in contempt I want to make sure I understand why so when I don't care, I will know exactly what I don't care about. BTW, has anybody seen my Crocs? It is gonna be hard to rock this outfit without 'em.
Having more than a little knowledge of the OP and his views on travel, let's just say that there is not a lot of tolerance there for being curious about the big wide world. The more things change, the more they remain the same.
I think Hawaii is gorgeous (I've not been there) but I also think that it's a not-very exciting, or interesting choice of travel. Which is not to say that one can't get deep into the history and culture of the Islands because that is pretty rich. For me, I'd love the flora.
Well, Iris---Don't you think going elsewhere as a tourist to places specializing in accommodating tourists, for a brief period, is a whole lot different than going to someplace in the same region or nation, that is not a travel mecca? Especially different than taking up residence in the remote location, and living and working there? You are implying that if someone from France vacationed in Orlando for a week, went to Epcot and all that stuff, that they'd know just how people in rural Iowa or Colorado or even in the Fla. Panhandle live....For that reason, I don't buy into your "broadening horizons" argument as a justification for luxury getaway vacations. Prestige, and escapism, is what I believe those travelers seek. I think it's accurate to say that a day in Disneyland is incomparable to the rest of America, and a couple days in Branson doesn't tell me what life in the 'hood is like near Lafayette Square, in St Louis. Hope that helps broaden your horizons.
ApatheticNoMore
7-8-14, 3:15am
For that reason, I don't buy into your "broadening horizons" argument as a justification for luxury getaway vacations.
why do they need a justification? Personally I don't know if I'll ever fly again, carbon footprint and all that (but that's the case regardless of *where* you fly).
Prestige, and escapism, is what I believe those travelers seek.
and why not escapism? (although yes fine escapism with a smaller carbon footprint :~))
My parents honeymooned in Hawaii and took us kids back years later (as kids/tweens). They had a very modest wedding indeed to save money for the honeymoon, it was a very deliberate choice. But that was back in the day when noone worried about ocean acidification, climate change etc.. I don't expect my parent's lives (maybe a few parts :)), not just a different time, it was a different world.
rodeosweetheart
7-8-14, 1:45pm
" For the female counterpart of the 50-something Harley Guy, The Trip To Hawaii is the Achievement of years of toil! It's sooo much fun--from the Midwest, 10-12 hours each way, cooped up in an airliner and sitting in airports.. Then you get there, and haul your clothing, that you bought specially for the trip, up to your $150-250 a night cubicle. That clothing you purchased is specially designed to make you look 45 again, by hiding the bulges, as you are photographed standing on a Hawaiian Beach at sunset. Then, there are the tourist traps--er--attractions, for something to "do", as you will NOT be going snorkeling or surfing. The highlight of the trip is the "Luaua" Loo-Oww or whatever, where you can do what 50-somethings REALLY love---pigging out on rich food and beverages. . . Anyway, that's the big deal with these 50-something females--senseless junkets to Luxurious Hawaaii, the number one tourist trap. "
Why is the Simple living network a target for your hate speech, OP? Shame on you.
Well, Iris---Don't you think going elsewhere as a tourist to places specializing in accommodating tourists, for a brief period, is a whole lot different than going to someplace in the same region or nation, that is not a travel mecca? Especially different than taking up residence in the remote location, and living and working there? You are implying that if someone from France vacationed in Orlando for a week, went to Epcot and all that stuff, that they'd know just how people in rural Iowa or Colorado or even in the Fla. Panhandle live....For that reason, I don't buy into your "broadening horizons" argument as a justification for luxury getaway vacations. Prestige, and escapism, is what I believe those travelers seek. I think it's accurate to say that a day in Disneyland is incomparable to the rest of America, and a couple days in Branson doesn't tell me what life in the 'hood is like near Lafayette Square, in St Louis. Hope that helps broaden your horizons.And if you had just said this Packy no one would have faulted you for that opinion. But you choose to needlessly stereotype the physical and social traits of type of person (in your opinion) who might do the more tourist type of travel in a very negative, belittling way. You sounded just like the stereotype of a nasty, gossipy old biddy who spends her days in a curlers, a robe and pink fuzzy slippers watching the neighbors with binoculars (between watching your Soaps and Dr. Phil that is) so you can trash talk about them to your other old biddy friends. I think you need to step away fromt he remote, drop the bon-bons, throw on a grass skirt and get your ass to Hawaii and get "lei'ed" :-)! Might learn a thing or two about how hurtful (and wrong) stereotypes can be if you take the time to actually get to know people. Not everyone can travel like you mentioned above, not everyone wants too, doesn't mean that they are "lessor" people who all fit into your version of a negative stereotype.
Well, I'll give you kids credit for this---you may be just sitting around at home in front of a 'puter, engaged in a Flame Fest on an internet board, but at least you aren't flying around the world, wasting everyones' scarce resources on visiting Tourist Traps. I commend you! Another thing is---there's no good reason to condemn stereotypes. By definition, they don't apply to every last member of a group--but probably a significant portion or a majority. Like: Professional Ice Hockey Players are Good At Skating! Well, aren't they? Or, is my argument invalid(and hateful) because am I "stereotyping" them? Show me a 50-something who isn't a "Foodie", and I'll show you a person who is regarded as atypical, by their peer group. The prime motivation of a "mature" female for going anywhere/doing anything is Food, and they aren't going where there isn't LOTS of it.
The prime motivation of a "mature" female for going anywhere/doing anything is Food, and they aren't going where there isn't LOTS of it.
Moderators, how much longer must we put up with this?
Teacher Terry
7-8-14, 7:00pm
So all 50 yo females are food obsessed!thumbsup!.
So all 50 yo females are food obsessed!thumbsup!. Though I would be happy to answer that question, Mr Bae is getting all upset. He is a VERY influential member of this forum. So, let's just let it go. How about a starting thread about rescuing people trapped in a burning building? Mr Bae, got any good first-hand accounts you could share with us?
Packys just a snarky old troll. Probably doesn't have anything else to do in life because, of course, EVERYONE who is elderly can only do one thing - sit around in their Depends all day long and bitch about everyone else while they wait to die. They are all like that. All of them. Oh my, was that a stereotype? Well according to Packy ALL stereotypes are true so must be true.
From Wikipedia:
In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community
Funny, but Packy sure does remind me of a poster that was banned on the old boards...
Is that really you - littlebittybobby or was it ittybittybobby? I bet Iris Lilies knows who it is. ;)
He's just yanking your chains. Pay him no mind other than for entertainment value. LOL
Why can't we all just get along? All of a sudden, I am the leading cause of ALL of several of these people's problems! How can that be? They CLAIM that I am the one who is_______ and_________and________or________(fill in the blank with their harsh descriptive term), but no reasonable person can make such huge assumptions about someone, based upon a brief discussion of whether or not it is worthwhile to go to Hawaii. I haven't disparaged them or anyone personally in any way. They, are interpreting my statements as if they were an ink blot test. And what's so terrible about saying any group finds eating to be a top priority? I didn't propose rounding them up, and placing them in camps, did I? That said, there's better be PLENTY of yummy, delish, and scrumptious FOOD, if you did. Anyway, I just figure that my "critics" here are projecting their OWN personality traits and internal frustrations upon me, like I am some sort of Sacrificial Lamb. Hope you feel better, now.
All of a sudden, I am the leading cause of ALL of several of these people's problems! How can that be? (fill in the blank with their harsh descriptive term), but no reasonable person can make such huge assumptions about someone, .
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Really dude, you need to go back and re-read your own posts.
My intent in my posts was not to insult you personally but to make a point - that negative stereotypes with "their harsh descriptive terms" are not only insulting, but often way off the mark because - as you say - "no reasonable person can make such huge assumptions about someone".
So you are either a troll trying to stir up trouble, or you really can't grasp that the things you said can be taken as massive and unfounded (and probably untrue) insults to many people on this board. I'm going with troll.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Really dude, you need to go back and re-read your own posts.
My intent in my posts was not to insult you personally but to make a point - that negative stereotypes with "their harsh descriptive terms" are not only insulting, but often way off the mark because - as you say - "no reasonable person can make such huge assumptions about someone".
So you are either a troll trying to stir up trouble, or you really can't grasp that the things you said can be taken as massive and unfounded (and probably untrue) insults to many people on this board. I'm going with troll.Awesome post, Dude! Like, Wow! So, since you have "taken my inventory", does that give me permission to make an assessment of your online deportment? OK-- I will then take the liberty of labeling you as a "Flamer", which is conduct that is far, far, far more antisocial than being a mere "Troll". Then, I will suggest you check and see if there is an all-night restaurant that serves 1/3lb, smoked, flame-broiled, bacon-wrapped cheddar cheeseburgers, and go have yourself a couple, to relieve the stress. Mmmmm, yum! But, I've made my views about the Hawaii things known, and there are better things to think about. It's gotten stale. Why waste any more time on something I don't care much about? Hope that helps you some. Thank you very much.
Why waste any more time on something I don't care much about? .First sensible thing you've said in this thread and I whole heartily agree. You've taken your own inventory Packy and must have found it wanting since you start a new thread and the first line in it is: "For those of you who haven't blocked me...yet". Hard to play the "I'm a poor sacrificial lamb" card after that. And you're right, I never should have "flamed" you, not a level I wanted to stoop to, and won't respond to any of your threads any longer - which is too bad because I think they could be very insightful if not so full of insults.
rodeosweetheart
7-9-14, 11:33am
Hi Rob, I think your pm box is full because I tried to send a message and could not, and thanks!
gimmethesimplelife
7-9-14, 11:35am
Hi Rob, I think your pm box is full because I tried to send a message and could not, and thanks!I will go ahead and clear out my message box right now and try sending me a message in say five minutes if you would and it should get through then....thanks! Rob
So, for the first time in years, we're closing a thread. It's a sad day for me because I hate the idea of closing off discussion on any topic, but this one has simply gotten out of hand and seems to have no real purpose other than to disparage.
Let's not make a habit of this.
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