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I don't know--but maybe this thread should be under the "Spirituality and Religion" zone on this board. I would like to hear your stories about Football Fundamentalists, and instances of their fanaticism.
Miss Cellane
10-11-14, 7:50am
I've always considered professional and some college sports (i.e. football, basketball and hockey, but not swimming and track) in general, and football in particular, to be the equivalent of the "circus" in the old Roman "bread and circus" method of keeping the commoners fed and and distracted and happy and out of the way. Football especially seems to be a way of vicariously working out aggression.
I think it is somehow a primitive expression of "fighting the enemy". I wonder if any countries who have constant wars (civil and other) have absolutely no interest in games like football, since they are actually living out that aggression. It's just a "civilized" gladiator games.
Our family has never had much of an interest in it.........although both my children were in the marching band that played for their school games.....which was required of the band.
I think some people need to be part of a group more than others. Some of our relatives are talking constantly about football. Our immediate family has absolutely no interest.
Haha......Miss Cellane.........we were typing at the same time. We're thinking along the same lines.
Simpler at Fifty
10-11-14, 8:26am
The thing that bothers me about football is that men are paid millions of dollars to throw and catch a ball yet when the CEO of a company makes half that much people think it is a bad thing.
Football is very low on my list. Hockey is at the top. GO BLACKHAWKS!
IshbelRobertson
10-11-14, 8:45am
Anyway, it's not Football, it's American football! Real football is referred to as soccer in the USA.
catherine
10-11-14, 9:07am
I am not into spectator sports at all, EXCEPT for football and golf, and specifically college football and more specifically Rutgers football. Conceptually, I hate the idea of it--it's dangerous, it's combative, it's competitive in a very brutish way. But because I know a little bit about the rules of the game from attending my EVERY high school football game, it's fun to follow, and it's fun to root for a favorite team (two of my sons graduated from Rutgers)--as Jane suggests, it probably appeals to some ancestral tribal thing in the amygdala of my brain.
AND, lets not forget that Rutgers/New Brunswick is the home of college football--first collegiate football game was played in New Brunswick vs. Princeton in 1879. Rutgers won (sorry, bae).
Finally, football is SO much more fun to watch than baseball. Baseball is SO boring.
ETA: In looking up the exact year of that first football game, I actually found this, from a Princeton publication. What I also found interesting in this article is that American football actually predates soccer. (Waiting for the pushback on that from you, Ishbel, but that's what it says)
First Intercollegiate Football Game
Until 1800 outdoor exercise for Princeton students usually took the form of walking, horseback riding, canoeing down the Millstone River, and hunting small game in the hills and fields nearby. By 1857, cricket, baseball, and football arose as popular sports on campus.
The first American intercollegiate football game was held between Princeton and Rutgers University in New Brunswick, N.J. on November 6, 1869. The game played was a form of association football, forerunner of later-day soccer. The 25 players from each college played in their street clothes, and the several hundred spectators stood around on the side or sat on a wooden fence. The Rutgers Targum reported that Princeton's first goal was made "by a well directed kick, from a gentleman whose name we don't know, but who did the best kicking on the Princeton side." The Targum is equally silent about the identity of the first wrong-way player in American football history, a Rutgers man "who, in his ardor, forgot which way he was kicking," and scored for Princeton instead of Rutgers.
Rutgers ended up winning the game 6 to 4. A week later, however, Princeton won the return match on its grounds, 8 to 0.
(Adapted from A Princeton Companion.)
AND, lets not forget that Rutgers/New Brunswick is the home of college football--first collegiate football game was played in New Brunswick vs. Princeton in 1879. Rutgers won (sorry, bae).
"That's all right, That's OK, You'll all work for us some day!"
The thing that bothers me about football is that men are paid millions of dollars to throw and catch a ball yet when the CEO of a company makes half that much people think it is a bad thing.
You could say the same thing about anyone successful in show business. Most football players have relatively short careers due to injuries, aging out, and general attrition, and risk permanent brain damage and orthopedic consequences to play. And they entertain millions. That may be part of it.
To quote an old co-worker of mine "I am neither an athlete nor an athletic supporter," so it's of no consequence to me anyway.
IshbelRobertson
10-11-14, 1:34pm
Catherine...
1853 trumps 1859 :)
catherine
10-11-14, 2:36pm
Catherine...
1853 trumps 1859 :)
Geez, Brits trump Yanks in football; we're all working for Princeton Tigers, I guess I shouldn't have brought it all up! :doh:
I grew up loving American Football. Then I happened to catch an All Blacks Rugby game and I am now a convert.
No more woosey American Football for me. Not that I see many Rugby games since I don't have cable. But I now
have zero interest in the nfl.
IshbelRobertson
10-11-14, 5:56pm
Secretly, whilst I do suport Hibs, one of the Edinbugh football tems, my passion is Rugby
Union!
My favorite sport is basketball; namely, Ohio State and Cleveland CAVS. Last year, I got into Ohio State football. Football does bother me in that it is so violent. My middle son played 1 year of football in high school; I cringed every time I heard helmets crash together. Glad that lasted only 1 year!
High school football seems to be A Big Thing in my corner of the world. (Oddly, while you have to raise private funds to let our "award-winning" high school be able to offer fundamental language, music, math and science courses, the district is happy enough to make its resources available to send our football team all over the state, starting out with a very expensive boat ride...).
When there is a home game, we station an ambulance down at the game with a paramedic, some EMTs, and some firefighter/FR/rescue folks. To handle the inevitable injuries during the games. We've flown off several kids in the past couple years by helicopter to the regional trauma center...
I don't quite get it.
High school football seems to be A Big Thing in my corner of the world. (Oddly, while you have to raise private funds to let our "award-winning" high school be able to offer fundamental language, music, math and science courses, the district is happy enough to make its resources available to send our football team all over the state, starting out with a very expensive boat ride...).
When there is a home game, we station an ambulance down at the game with a paramedic, some EMTs, and some firefighter/FR/rescue folks. To handle the inevitable injuries during the games. We've flown off several kids in the past couple years by helicopter to the regional trauma center...
I don't quite get it.What you've described is a classic case of Institutional Football Fundamentalism. The game is a demolition derby for our youth-it is not healthy exercise. Not only that, but I think that football kids receive an unhealthy amount of attention. It is a bad use of resources. I think that once their glory days are over, it has a negative effect on many of them through their adult lives. One other thing I've noticed is the adults who are the most fanatical football fans also seem to be the least concerned about being physically fit.
Blackdog Lin
10-12-14, 8:12pm
I am not proud of myself for being a fan (bread and circuses indeed) - but fan I am of the NFL. The injuries, the money, the politics.....it's all bad.
But the game itself is beauty, sheer beauty. The athleticism, the geometry, the gamesmanship: beautiful.
I am not proud of myself for being a fan ......
I am. I love the game of football and everything that goes along with it. If someone else doesn't like it, well, too bad.
My home team is sitting atop the AFC North and I'm proud of them. Today I experienced highs and lows as I sat through an overtime game, against another division leader, which ended in a tie. Does that mean I'm a fanatic?
ToomuchStuff
10-13-14, 1:53am
How important is it, to who? To me, not a bit, not the least. I actually get po'd from trying to shop and can't find help because they are watching the tv's or listening to "the game" on the radio. Then they have the gall to ask me what channel is "the game"on or grab your arm and scream excitedly, "did you see that?". You have your thing, I have mine, leave me the location alone.
Now to the players I have met, the crews I know that work the stadiums, vendors, owner, etc. very important. I don't really have a problem when the ones telling the story played it, but I do when others live vicarously through them and try to make you think it is all important. I even found humor when our Christmas tree was broken by some players, reliving a bad end to a good game.
Not my thing.
Miss Cellane
10-13-14, 7:02am
How important is it, to who? To me, not a bit, not the least. I actually get po'd from trying to shop and can't find help because they are watching the tv's or listening to "the game" on the radio. Then they have the gall to ask me what channel is "the game"on or grab your arm and scream excitedly, "did you see that?". You have your thing, I have mine, leave me the location alone.
What I find interesting is that stores are open more and more on holidays--many stores are opening Thanksgiving afternoon this year and staying open all night.
But they close early on Superbowl Sunday so employees can get home to see the game.
So, open on the holiday that gathers families together, but closed for football. That tells you a lot right there.
Aqua Blue
10-13-14, 9:30am
Not my thing either, I find it interesting that our society's heroes are people playing games(sports of all kinds) and people pretending to be someone else(actors). We don't have real flesh and blood heroes.
Football is huge. Watching Brett Favre and my Green Bay Packers helped me through my divorce! :-)
OK I love Football- college, professional and local, even pee wee. I am a sport fanatic, football being at the top of the list. For me, it's when my family and friends gather. We make yummy meals or snacks and make fun of each other's teams. :) It also brings back the few good memories I had of high school and going to the games- the warm apple cider and clam chowder and making friends from another school, putting on your jeans and favorite jersey and OH RAH RAH RAH my way on the sidelines. :) Good times.
How important is it, to who? To me, not a bit, not the least. I actually get po'd from trying to shop and can't find help because they are watching the tv's or listening to "the game" on the radio. Then they have the gall to ask me what channel is "the game"on or grab your arm and scream excitedly, "did you see that?". You have your thing, I have mine, leave me the location alone.
Now to the players I have met, the crews I know that work the stadiums, vendors, owner, etc. very important. I don't really have a problem when the ones telling the story played it, but I do when others live vicarously through them and try to make you think it is all important. I even found humor when our Christmas tree was broken by some players, reliving a bad end to a good game.
Not my thing. Well said, Too Much S!!! I might throw in this: I go into the shop Monday after biking a Hundred-Miler in the hills on Sunday, and Those People who sat and ate Pizza and watched "The Game" the day before are praising and glorifying and raving about some high-dollar sports thug who ran 20 yards, stuck out his arm, and deflected a thrown pass. HE IS THE WORLDS GREATESS ATHLETE!!!!! 'cordin to them. It's stoopidball. The Wall Street Journal, awhile back, published the results of a study which found that in a 3-hour long televised football game, there is approximately 11 minutes, cumulatively, of play---- 5-7 seconds at a time. The rest of it is players standing around & commercials. I am not impressed--in a positive way, that is.
Football pretty much doesn't exist in my life, so I'm neutral about it. It always seems to me like there is one football star or another that is in the news for domestic abuse, drugs, or DUI, which hardly seems like any sort of decent example for young people who often idolize them. But then again politicians who are our country leaders seem to have similar issues. Sort of seems like there is a void in the national hero department these days. I actually like to go out shopping or other errands during the big games as there is much less congestion.
Gardenarian
10-14-14, 8:06pm
Football. I don't know how the game is played. Have never watched a game in my life. Don't feel I'm missing out on anything. So I'm going out on a limb here and say, not very important.
Don't people have books?
Don't people have books?
Sure we do. I read several hours a day, but I put it aside for 3 hours on Sundays.
I just read that the stock price for Domino's has gone up, primarily due to ever-increasing sales volume. So, the Pizza business would consider foo-ball VERY important. When I read a book though, which isn't but maybe two-three times a year, I don't want greasy fingerprints on it. That is just another good reason to abstain from pizza.
I've always considered professional and some college sports (i.e. football, basketball and hockey, but not swimming and track) in general, and football in particular, to be the equivalent of the "circus" in the old Roman "bread and circus" method of keeping the commoners fed and and distracted and happy and out of the way.
My feelings exactly. Same with TV, much music, Hollywood movies, big pharma... I have no stomach for the celebrity athlete or really any other kind of celebrity who's fame comes from, well, being famous. I don't care what they do one second after they step off the field/stage/operating room. I have a good friend who said he did not want to attend an event with me because he was uncomfortable with all the requisite "small talk". I agreed and said that I got really tired of standing around and talking about sports. You'd have thought I just kicked him where it counts! Turns out sports are the new sacrament, every thing else is now small talk. Who knew?
All that said, catherine's Scarlet Knights will be in town for the first time in a week and a half to take on my Huskers. The game is at 11:00. We will fire up the biscuits and gravy around 8:00 and Bloody Marys at about 8:02 all at our tailgate that is 1 block from the stadium. I will be in the seats that my Dad first bought tickets for in 1957. I won't listen to any of the 100 or so talk radio shows providing analysis during the week before the game, read the breakdown of the game in the paper on Sunday or be in a funk for a week if we lose*, but for those few hours I will be decked out in red, will be a true fan and it will be a lot of fun. The Emperor will be pleased.
BTW catherine, if you travel to support your team let me know. Husker fans have a reputation for taking great care of visitors. I'll show you why.
*Of course I will call for the coach's head if we lose, but that's different.
catherine
10-15-14, 10:14am
Cool, Gregg! No, I don't travel for games, unless it's against UConn, because I was raised in CT and my brother still lives there and is a huge HuskIES fan. It's our first season in Big 10, and we play Ohio State this weekend, and I'm not too optimistic (seems we're the 19.5 point underdog)… but since it's DHs birthday, I'm hoping the gods are good to him and Rutgers.
I'll be thinking of you during our game--and if I knew what you looked like, I'd search for you in the stands!
How important is it? Ask anyone from Texas.
rosarugosa
10-15-14, 7:22pm
I'm on the same page as Gardenarian. I've never watched a football game in my life. My lack of interest in sports is absolute.
How important is it? Ask anyone from Texas.
Or apparently Sayreville NJ...
should be under the "Spirituality and Religion" zone on this board.
Die Sport ... ist das Opium des Volkes!
Sure we do. I read several hours a day, but I put it aside for 3 hours on Sundays.I'll bet it's one of those books that has Football stats and player profiles, football schedules and things like that. Maybe even a book of quotes by Coach Lombardi. Better yet: a coupon book that is redeemable for delivery Pizza, just dripping with grease. I know I am right, so don't bother denying it. Thank Me.
Die Sport ... ist das Opium des Volkes! That, is prolly true. Only, instead of sedation and satisfaction, the masses become aroused and demand MORE! That said, the original thought was that religion was the drug. My belief is that arena(fundamentalist) religion, stadium politics, stadium sports, and stadium music all have the same effect on "real people" that are hard-wired into group mania control systems. It's hypnotic, to a good many people. S'how the Nazi'sgained traction in the 30's. Just check out YouTube Videos of Germany, Ca. 1938.
Tussiemussies
10-16-14, 4:12am
Has anyone heard about the incidents at Sayreville High School, NJ?
Miss Cellane
10-16-14, 7:53am
Has anyone heard about the incidents at Sayreville High School, NJ?
Yes. For those who haven't, upperclassmen high school football players were bullying, hazing and assaulting the freshmen on the team in the locker room. The coaches claim to be unaware this was happening. The superintendent of schools cancelled the rest of the football season.
Many of the townspeople seem to be more concerned about cancelling the remainder of the season--Hey, they have a winning team!--then about the fact that students were being molested on school property and "no one" knew.
catherine
10-16-14, 8:02am
Yes, it's about 10 miles from me so of course it's prominent in the local news. Horrifying. I completely agree that the entire football season should be suspended. From what I understand, this is completely ruining some of the junior/senior players' scholarship opportunities, and if some are innocents caught in the crossfire, I'm sorry, but that's the way it goes. I also think the coaches need to be held accountable, if it's true that they were hardly ever in the locker room supervising. How could this go on under their watch? However, their involvement is under investigation.
ETA: seems that there are many reasons coaches may not be constantly able to supervise in locker rooms. Some prohibit coaches from sharing locker room/bathrooms. Some schools are designed such that the coach's office might be down the hall and out of view of the locker room.
I'll bet it's one of those books that has Football stats and player profiles, football schedules and things like that. Maybe even a book of quotes by Coach Lombardi. Better yet: a coupon book that is redeemable for delivery Pizza, just dripping with grease. I know I am right, so don't bother denying it. Thank Me. Thanks Pacman, I won't bother. Your ability to look right to the heart of any matter and fit it into whatever version of reality is currently residing in your mind is nothing short of remarkable. I'm in awe of your abilities!
ToomuchStuff
10-16-14, 12:19pm
Yes, it's about 10 miles from me so of course it's prominent in the local news. Horrifying. I completely agree that the entire football season should be suspended. From what I understand, this is completely ruining some of the junior/senior players' scholarship opportunities, and if some are innocents caught in the crossfire, I'm sorry, but that's the way it goes. I also think the coaches need to be held accountable, if it's true that they were hardly ever in the locker room supervising. How could this go on under their watch? However, their involvement is under investigation.
ETA: seems that there are many reasons coaches may not be constantly able to supervise in locker rooms. Some prohibit coaches from sharing locker room/bathrooms. Some schools are designed such that the coach's office might be down the hall and out of view of the locker room.
Suspending the season was the right thing to do IMHO. (although I doubt it changes what goes on elsewhere) Not knowing what was going on, certainly seems like an admission of liability. (expect that, and the schools lawyers would have more of an effect on other places, by telling coaches about joint personal liability)
Here, we had a person that was severly hurt in a vehicle accident, after leaving a Chiefs game. There was a lawsuit filed against the organization, the NFL and Kansas City for promoting all the drinking and not having DUI checkpoints at the exits, etc. As quickly as it made the news it was all hushed up and no more could be found on it (I expect it was a quick settlement with a NDA).
"A school without Football is going to be nothing more than a Medieval study hall". That's according to Coach Lombardi.
I believe Vince Lombardi also said "Winning isn't the most important thing; it's the only thing." Clearly, he had issues.
Yes--Lombardi. To paraphrase one of his corny sayings, in his world---football wasn't the most important thing--it was the only thing! Which has got me to thinking--maybe if some of you pizza-loving football fanatics would contribute the startup capital--I could open up a franchise system of "Lombarrdee's Pizza" delivery places. The shareholders & I will not only be FI, but filthy rich. Maybe even own our own pro f-ball team. I intentionally spelled Lombardi differently, so I would hopefully avoid any claims of trading on the coaches name. Though it would be VERY ironic if his heirs or whomever contended it was "intellectual property". Ha.
"A school without Football is going to be nothing more than a Medieval study hall". That's according to Coach Lombardi.
In that case maybe the libertarians are right, we need to close down all public schools.
Miss Cellane
10-17-14, 7:05am
"A school without Football is going to be nothing more than a Medieval study hall". That's according to Coach Lombardi.
What's wrong with that? Aren't kids supposed to study for/at school? Instead of playing games?
I'll be thinking of you during our game--and if I knew what you looked like, I'd search for you in the stands!
I'll be the one in red.
catherine
10-25-14, 10:04am
I'll be the one in red.
Hey, I'll be watching for you! ;) Not looking good for us. We are the underdogs for sure, and after last week's game against Ohio State we'll be loyal fans and watch but…. (we lost $50 betting on Rutgers with the 21-point spread last week, and this week's game has the same spread, so I think we'll keep our money this time)
Enjoy!
You kids know what? The U of I football coach is by far THE highest-paid public employee in the state of Iowa! U of I trains Doctors, Lawyers, Scientists, Educators, and other highly-skilled professionals. But, THE MOST IMPORTANT, most highly-valued program on the Campus is football. Yup. This is football season, right? And it is Saturday, which is the day college ball is played, right? But, guess what? No Game Today! Day off. UNBELIEVEABLE, how public resources are squandered on this make-believe sport! For the money they put in into it, the infrastructure and so on, they should be playing 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year, rain or shine! Thanks for agreeing with Me.
You kids know what?
That college football is often a significant profit center for the schools? Yes, I think we knew that.
That college football is often a significant profit center for the schools? Yes, I think we knew that. I have yet another pet theory or two to counter your "profit" argument. One, is that most attorneys and accountants must be F-ball fans. You get those two groups together, and they can "prove" anything, beyond a reasonable doubt. Numbers don't lie, right? Just ask that Artie Anderrrson accounting firm if Enron was profitable. And, OJ was "innocent", Right? See, the deal is, F-ball is a HIGHLY subsidized business. Donated funds and tax dollars provide the facilities. Conferences are oligopolies. See? Another thing is the question of ethics: Should the schools be providing pure entertainment, as part of their mission? If it rakes in the bucks---and you can justify it simply for that reason; then why shouldn't universities be allowed to operate on-campus brothels, and staff it with yummy Coeds? It would be VERY profitable, wouldn't it? The institutions of higher learning would be able to use the income to fund other programs, and many young kids could work their way through school, debt-free! So, there goes your argument. Human Exploitation, in the form of F'ball gladiators, is a losing proposition. Sorry. Better luck next time.
Darn catherine, I should have told you Nebraska almost never covers big spreads. If they get a big lead, like 3 scores or more, in the 4th quarter the tradition is to play everybody with a uniform on. We like that here, but have all learned to swing the other way on those 3 or 4 or 5 touchdown spreads. Unders are usually a better pick than overs, too, for the same reason.
We had a few folks in Scarlet drop by the tailgate. Nice people, great fun. They held their own with bloody Marys and I think they liked the Husker version of biscuits and gravy!
catherine
10-28-14, 3:51pm
Hey, Gregg.. glad you had a good time with my Jersey folk. They must have had a great time--bloody Mary's and biscuits and gravy--makes me wish I HAD traveled out!
Rough game, but half-expected. You guys are great--Abdullah is unbelievable. Good game, but we're hoping our quarterback recovers in time for the Wisconsin game this weekend.
littlebittybobby
2-9-25, 2:18pm
okay----I don't know if you kids know it---but yeah----today is THE big day for Big Football! Yup. They are having that contest to which group of large muscular men can move a littlebitty football to either end of a neatly-mowed field. Yup. Since everything is about doing things the E-Z way, while spectators eat, drink, and be merry, why not use EPlayers; Electric robots controlled by AI, to play the game? That way they don't have to train and get in shape and get all tired and sweaty. Even elderly & disabled people can play pro ball, if they have robots assisting them. See? Sounds like a plan, to mee. Yup. Edited to add: Football is VERY important! But yeah---to SOME people. But not mee. Nope.
iris lilies
2-9-25, 2:32pm
When the Superbowl comes up on the calendar I always ask myself the 3 questions: names of the 2 teams and where they are playing. I only know 1 answer for sure, the team Taylor Swift’s boyfriend plays for.
DH asked me how many baskets I thought Taylor’s boyfriend would make in the big game. Haha.
DH asked me how many baskets I thought Taylor’s boyfriend would make in the big game. Haha.
:laff:
iris lilies
2-9-25, 5:59pm
:laff:
Yeah, we are not sports ball fans here.
My grandson's favorite team is the Eagles. In early November, I went with my son to a wedding. He wanted to go to the casino, so while I played the slots for a little while, he bought a $50 ticket for the Eagles to win the Superbowl. Now this was ages ago in terms of the number of teams that were still in the running, so it was definitely a long shot. He stands to make ten times that $50 bet tonight. So if you guys truly don't care about football, at least silently root for the Eagles, please.
My grandson's favorite team is the Eagles. In early November, I went with my son to a wedding. He wanted to go to the casino, so while I played the slots for a little while, he bought a $50 ticket for the Eagles to win the Superbowl. Now this was ages ago in terms of the number of teams that were still in the running, so it was definitely a long shot. He stands to make ten times that $50 bet tonight. So if you guys truly don't care about football, at least silently root for the Eagles, please.
Go, Eagles!
Go, Eagles!
Thanks, Tybee!
Don’t like football. Hockey is my preferred sport.
littlebittybobby
2-9-25, 7:43pm
gooooo---Huskeees!!!! I really think they oughtta give people their moneys' worth, and have tag-teams and then require that they play & play until all of the players are finally carried off the field with injuries. Also, use a 100lb medicine ball. Maybe put some bulls on the field to chase the players. Yup. I might sit-n-watch, then.
Tomorrow the schools will be closed here. It is a big deal here.
It used to bother me that some of my college fees went to support sports and football was the big one. Money didn't come easy at the time and sports seemed a little frivolous. Baseball is the only pro sport I have much interest in. As George Carlin once explained, it's a far superior sport to football.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIkqNiBASfI
It used to bother me that some of my college fees went to support sports and football was the big one. Money didn't come easy at the time and sports seemed a little frivolous. Baseball is the only pro sport I have much interest in. As George Carlin once explained, it's a far superior sport to football.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIkqNiBASfI
I grew up a baseball fan. Did you ever see Ken Burns’ Baseball series? Absolutely lovely.
I grew up a baseball fan. Did you ever see Ken Burns’ Baseball series? Absolutely lovely.
At least once. It's a great American game. I suspect a societal shift of some sort when football replaced base ball as the most popular sport
rosarugosa
2-10-25, 7:13am
A FB friend posted: "I'm rooting for the Eagles today for one reason. I understand that they once declined a visit to the white house during trump's first term and he is still pissed." Sounds good to me.
happystuff
2-10-25, 9:11am
catherine, congrats to your son!!!
frugal-one
2-10-25, 9:12am
trump went to the game and it cost MILLIONS of dollars for him to attend. The only president to have done so because of this! Another term of record spending?
littlebittybobby
2-10-25, 10:21am
okay----i took off my tinfoil-lined ball cap long enough to intercept the following: the Eagles were allowed to win, so as to reduce the possibility of a major uncivil disturbance in Philadelphia that would cost billions and billions in property damage. See? Hope that helps you some.
iris lilies
2-10-25, 10:41am
My grandson's favorite team is the Eagles. In early November, I went with my son to a wedding. He wanted to go to the casino, so while I played the slots for a little while, he bought a $50 ticket for the Eagles to win the Superbowl. Now this was ages ago in terms of the number of teams that were still in the running, so it was definitely a long shot. He stands to make ten times that $50 bet tonight. So if you guys truly don't care about football, at least silently root for the Eagles, please.
I will bet your grandson is excited! Way to go, kid!
littlebittybobby
2-10-25, 10:50am
okay-----from the 'net(F-book)But yeah---see photo. Thank mee.6229
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catherine
2-10-25, 11:05am
I will bet your grandson is excited! Way to go, kid!
Thanks, IL! Yeah, that was an unexpected blowout.
trump went to the game and it cost MILLIONS of dollars for him to attend. The only president to have done so because of this! Another term of record spending?
You’re just indignant because the fans cheered him.
I do agree baseball is the only sport worth attending in person. You can sit in the sunshine with a hot dog and a beer and watch the story gracefully unfold. NFL games are to much like an overproduced action movie.
frugal-one
2-10-25, 2:30pm
BTW.. I did not watch the game so didn’t see that. The point being the ridiculous amount of money spent and then he leaves halfway through. Probably pissed ‘cause the winning team dissed him earlier!
I have always felt that football is at the core of much that is wrong in this country. Overpaid sports teams, grabbing money from towns and expecting the taxpayers to build the stadiums with promises of wonderful monetary returns. Then the violence. Then the rude, crude fans, then the exploitation of players until they wised up. The mentality of win, win, win. And I could go on and on.
I have always felt that football is at the core of much that is wrong in this country. Overpaid sports teams, grabbing money from towns and expecting the taxpayers to build the stadiums with promises of wonderful monetary returns. Then the violence. Then the rude, crude fans, then the exploitation of players until they wised up. The mentality of win, win, win. And I could go on and on.
There will always be sports, and there will always be sports fans. Not that I'm an apologist for football, necessarily. I think it's sad that they can fill arenas with tens of thousands of fans paying a fortune for their seats but legitimate theatre has to struggle to fill seats. However, I think humans are hard-wired to be sports enthusiasts, like it or not And, living in a market-driven economy, a tremendous amount of money will be spent to draw the fans in and allow them to spend their money to sit with their tribes to dance and cheer their jerseyed tribal icons to success.
iris lilies
2-11-25, 1:46pm
I have always felt that football is at the core of much that is wrong in this country. Overpaid sports teams, grabbing money from towns and expecting the taxpayers to build the stadiums with promises of wonderful monetary returns. Then the violence. Then the rude, crude fans, then the exploitation of players until they wised up. The mentality of win, win, win. And I could go on and on.
This is a rather…ungenerous…generalization.
I will leave it at that. It’s not your thing. Ok.
Personally, I find the game whether televised or in real life to be intensely boring but I don’t project all of that onto those who do enjoy it.
HappyHiker
2-11-25, 2:03pm
I used to enjoy college football until I read about the serious injuries players could get (and worse in the professional leagues). Since then I just don't enjoy the "sport." Just as I don't like boxing for the same reason. Watching people get serious and sometimes lethal injuries isn't my idea of entertainment.
rosarugosa
2-11-25, 2:09pm
I find all sports to be intensely boring. If humans are hard-wired to enjoy sports, I am missing that wiring, along with the wiring for motherhood and religion.
iris lilies
2-11-25, 2:52pm
I used to enjoy college football until I read about the serious injuries players could get (and worse in the professional leagues). Since then I just don't enjoy the "sport." Just as I don't like boxing for the same reason. Watching people get serious and sometimes lethal injuries isn't my idea of entertainment.
my parents in health field knew around 50 years ago that football was physically dangerous and knew about head injuries. They were relieved when my brother chose swimming as his sport. He was kind of a big kid and the football coach would’ve liked him to go out for football. They knew about the head injuries even way back then so I don’t know why it has only come to light in the last decade or so in mainstream news.
HappyHiker
2-12-25, 1:25pm
I find all sports to be intensely boring. If humans are hard-wired to enjoy sports, I am missing that wiring, along with the wiring for motherhood and religion.
Oh gosh, me, too! But I'm over-wired to enjoy books/literature, pretty places in nature, delicious but simple meals made with real ingredients--and animals, including some people.
Add in some wide-ranging conversation, some dark chocolate, and I'm in my favorite place.
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