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CathyA
1-26-15, 5:05pm
DS bought DH and I a year's subscription to netflix. We wanted DVDs. I've picked the first 2 movies in my queue but nothing is happening. When I click on "shipping activity" it says something like "your return space is empty". Does that mean that they assume I have some DVDs to return? DS can't help much because he only streams. We are part of his membership, and he has entered "2 streaming and 2 DVDs for his 2 week orders.
Do I need to give it a day to accept the "order" of the 2 DVDs? I doubt they are real popular shows.........both are foreign films.
Did this happen to you on your first order?
Thanks!

bae
1-26-15, 5:14pm
Did you put them in your instant-watch-streaming-queue by accident? I bobble that sometimes.

Otherwise, I usually see same-day shipping.

Yossarian
1-26-15, 5:36pm
They still make DVDs?

iris lily
1-26-15, 6:10pm
They still make DVDs?

Hey buddy, most content is still produced on DVD. The rest of it is hit or miss in these formats: streaming, Bluray, etc.

And frankly, you miss all of the special features when you stream.

Yossarian
1-26-15, 7:01pm
Hey buddy, most content is still produced on DVD. The rest of it is hit or miss in these formats: streaming, Bluray, etc.

And frankly, you miss all of the special features when you stream.

Easy granny, no one is taking away your talkies.:laff:


It's the same as with music. Compressed digital formats are inferior quality but just so much more convenient that they are pushing physical formats to the curb.

CathyA
1-26-15, 8:17pm
I'm so confused. I have a bunch of selections in my "List". And then some in my queue.
I guess you could say I don't know what the heck is going on. :doh:

kib
1-27-15, 12:18am
If your household has more than one ''profile" on Netflix (if it asks you who's watching, and you can choose different people), everyone can create a queue, but only the primary person's queue choices will actually ship. I found this out the hard way waiting for movies that just never came. So if your DS is the primary person on an account you share, you have to say that he is watching when you select movies to ship, and adjust his queue to put them on top if he's got a list a mile long. I don't know about the return space comment.

CathyA
1-27-15, 9:02am
Thanks kib. DS doesn't live with us. I'll try going through his account to get the DVDs we've chosen. I'm still not sure what the "List" is. Seems to be different from the "queue".

lessisbest
1-27-15, 10:44am
I stream Netflix on ROKU (https://www.roku.com/), and that is much handier than getting the DVDs. If I wanted to use DVDs I would check them out from our public library (free).

CathyA
1-27-15, 2:42pm
Because of our old TVs and our limited internet data plan, we can't stream. I think the DVDs are on their way though. I guess when they show up in a box on top of your queue, it means they are in the process of being collected and sent.
DS got an email stating they were on their way. I think the way the account was set up to start with was probably not correct. Oh well. ..........looking forward to watching 2 foreign films!

iris lily
1-27-15, 3:42pm
As a video addict, I will tell you that the selection in Netflix DVD is far greater than Netflix streaming.

Streaming is still a limited world.

Yossarian
1-27-15, 7:16pm
As a video addict, I will tell you that the selection in Netflix DVD is far greater than Netflix streaming.

Streaming is still a limited world.

True, but I bet that will eventually flip. Look at what happened to books. Much easier to keep obscure editions stored electronically and deliver digital versions when requested then keeping hard copies laying around.

kib
1-27-15, 7:30pm
Cathy - if it turns out the DVDs come to your DS's house, he should be able to switch his address online so they come to you instead ... I think.

iris lilies
1-27-15, 8:03pm
True, but I bet that will eventually flip. Look at what happened to books. Much easier to keep obscure editions stored electronically and deliver digital versions when requested then keeping hard copies laying around.


Agreed that the flip will happen, and in some disciplines faster than in others. In casual reading, Romance readers embraced e-books much faster than readers of mysteries or Science Fiction or urban. It's kinda funny that the ladies got ahead of nerdy SF readers.

The rate of sales of printed books is still falling. But the steep decline stopped a couple of years ago.

I am bemused when a "successful" blogger measures his/her success by a book contract. If books are so gone, why do e-writers consider that the ultimate sign of the world's approval?

I just don't want anyone to rush out and trade their Netflix DVD program for the streaming program thinking they are getting exactly the same content, just more conveniently. It's a personal thing with me. I am PO'd that choices for Netflix streaming are so limited. There's a reason Netflix won't show nonmembers what is available for streaming today—their limited content. I will go over to my friend's house and she's got all of the latest big TVs and a couple of streaming services, and there is NOTHING I want to watch. It's all old stuff and new-straight-to-stream films with a few quality titles thrown in, and those I've already seen.

Plus, the discs have special features and some of those can be fantastic.

It will all change to stream/download at some point, but it's not nearly there yet.

JaneV2.0
1-27-15, 8:13pm
I don't mind streaming something I'm going to watch once. For anything I want to keep, I want a DVD. Otherwise, I'm going to have to make my own, or depend on the cloud or hope that my hard drive doesn't crash or something. I've browsed Netflix offerings, and I'm not convinced they have anything to offer me.

Yossarian
1-27-15, 9:03pm
Romance readers embraced e-books much faster

One of the things I like about e readers (or for me my iPad) is that it's really hard for someone to tell what you are reading. You can keep your ripped dresses to yourself at the pool and claim you are reading Capital in the Twenty-first Century.

Miss Cellane
1-27-15, 9:46pm
I keep waiting for streaming Netflix to have at least half the offerings of the DVD Netflix. My best guess is that that they have about 1/6 the streaming offerings as they do DVDs, based on the shows and movies I want to watch.

You'll notice that nowhere does Netflix tell you how many titles they have streaming--they don't want us to know just how little the offerings are. I don't know if they just don't have the capacity for more streaming, or they can't get the permissions for many tv shows or movies, but the streaming offerings are very limited. If you want newer movies, you pretty much have to get the DVDs. And as mentioned above, if you like the special features, again, only on DVD.

While I love streaming shows and movies, the options are limited. I *think* streaming is the future, but it is sure taking a very long time to get here.

ToomuchStuff
1-28-15, 2:40am
Easy granny, no one is taking away your talkies.:laff:


It's the same as with music. Compressed digital formats are inferior quality but just so much more convenient that they are pushing physical formats to the curb.

At least in music I find the opposite to be true. I can rip it into digital, while still maintaining the hardcopy. This allows both backup and if a device allows a greater quality (flac instead of ogg/mp3), then I can rerip it, easily.
Also I tend to buy paperbacks for less then the cost of digital books, and can loan them, resell them, etc. (options I don't have with ebooks/digital music)

I came into this subject, as my fray into Netflix was a disappointment. Currently I am thinking about trying Redbox, due to a current release in it (Lucy), and at some point I might be able to use Amazon (not supported currently), but I tend to want to watch old, obscure movies (to most) and some haven't been updated to dvd, let alone streaming.

kib
1-28-15, 12:12pm
I'm very curious about why Netflix streaming selection is so poor, though. Copyright costs?

I've contemplated the whole digital media question a lot, as I bounce back and forth between wanting a hard copy of everything I've ever experienced and wanting to walk around with a device the size of my pinky toe that contains a perfect media record of my life, past, present and future. It seems to me that there is a direct correlation between space and permanence. Think about this: you can play a 75 year old vinyl record, even if it's in rather poor condition. With a little effort, you can read a book, even if it got dropped in the tub, and even if it's 75 years old. You can probably splice and watch a 75 year old reel to reel movie even if the dog chewed a few feet of it, assuming it was properly stored. There is some sacrifice of quality, but the ability is still there. The further along we go, the smaller the storage space required for our media, but the greater the risk of total loss. I can't play a cracked dvd, I can't read a kindle file that's been blocked from my access, and I can't play a corrupted computer file.

ETA: I also love the fact that the only "machine" I need in order to read a dictionary or look at photos or hear a concert is my own head, which is (or so I believe, ha ha) less prone to breakage than anything external.

Miss Cellane
1-28-15, 7:20pm
I'm very curious about why Netflix streaming selection is so poor, though. Copyright costs?

I've contemplated the whole digital media question a lot, as I bounce back and forth between wanting a hard copy of everything I've ever experienced and wanting to walk around with a device the size of my pinky toe that contains a perfect media record of my life, past, present and future. It seems to me that there is a direct correlation between space and permanence. Think about this: you can play a 75 year old vinyl record, even if it's in rather poor condition. With a little effort, you can read a book, even if it got dropped in the tub, and even if it's 75 years old. You can probably splice and watch a 75 year old reel to reel movie even if the dog chewed a few feet of it, assuming it was properly stored. There is some sacrifice of quality, but the ability is still there. The further along we go, the smaller the storage space required for our media, but the greater the risk of total loss. I can't play a cracked dvd, I can't read a kindle file that's been blocked from my access, and I can't play a corrupted computer file.

ETA: I also love the fact that the only "machine" I need in order to read a dictionary or look at photos or hear a concert is my own head, which is (or so I believe, ha ha) less prone to breakage than anything external.


Netflix claims that they keep "refreshing" their streaming options, pulling out some titles and putting new ones in, based on what people are watching. There's a video explaining their theory here: http://news.yahoo.com/watch--netflix-explains-why-it-doesn-t-have-that-movie-you-wanted-to-watch-203909928.html;_ylt=A0LEVjFEbslUoXsATNMnnIlQ;_ylu= X3oDMTByZHI5MXByBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNgRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dG lkAw--

And I do think many studios won't allow streaming of their tv shows and movies until they have milked every last penny they can get out of the DVD sales.

ToomuchStuff
1-29-15, 3:11pm
Kib, it is due to licensing. To keep content fresh and due to budget, they license x amount of content, for y time and when the time is expired, the new batch comes in.

I think I still have a Roku device, I bought for trying Netflix, and will have to see if it supports Amazon, as they seem to have a better stock of older movies (or less popular ones) and don't have the timeframe/turnover rate that Netflix does. Still I just did a search for some of the ones I searched for on Netflix and on Amazon, sometimes dvd is the only option (for example, Something Wicked this Way Comes).

Weston
1-29-15, 4:56pm
Kib, it is due to licensing. To keep content fresh and due to budget, they license x amount of content, for y time and when the time is expired, the new batch comes in.

I think I still have a Roku device, I bought for trying Netflix, and will have to see if it supports Amazon, as they seem to have a better stock of older movies (or less popular ones) and don't have the timeframe/turnover rate that Netflix does. Still I just did a search for some of the ones I searched for on Netflix and on Amazon, sometimes dvd is the only option (for example, Something Wicked this Way Comes).

I have the ROKU 3 and it does support Amazon.