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There seems to be a lot of issues on these forums regarding a certain poster named Packy. I and many others here don't find him to be a problem. He is quite witty and humorous, and we respond in turn with humor. He's not a problem for us.... Some of us have known him for years from the old boards.
Then there's that small group of posters that get upset about a humorous jab at them by Packy and respond quite negatively to him, and then he in turn responds negatively to them, which I can't blame him.... The fight is on. Funny thing is this small group of posters seem to have a few other posters that bother them too that are on their ignore list. They would like Packy and these other posters they don't like gone from SLN. Then it would be a perfect world here, in their opinion.... But then there are those of us here that enjoy a variety of different opinions and outlooks on life from all posters. We don't discriminate or hurl ugly accusations at humorous posters or those we don't agree with.... And we do have a sense of humor!!
And now I see on a thread some of the fussy posters being quite rude to Alan! Do they not realize if it wasn't for Alan there would not even be SLN at this point!!! I think they need a time out or something as they are acting like spoiled children that aren't getting their way!!!:moon:
Could a mod please correct this thread title to PACKY and take the YOU off. I don't know how that got on there and there is no way for me to take it off myself. Thank you very much! :)
frugal-one
2-28-15, 7:19pm
Obviously, you are referring to me. I appreciate all Alan has done for this forum but that does not mean I HAVE to agree with him. If you consider this rude, so be it. As far as Packy, I do not find him either witty or humorous, just obnoxious. Obviously, I am not the only one who feels this way. I know when I have offended someone, I try to appease. As you may have noticed, I asked Packy not to respond to my posts. Apparently Packy enjoys to torment and be a troll. This is the LAST time I am going to refer to him or justify myself. I really could care less what you think.
As a stout old comfort-loving woman who is inordinately fond of pizza, I should consider him my sworn enemy. But he rescues cats, which washes him clean as the new-fallen snow in my eyes.
Packy is trying to "get your goat" as that old-timey saying goes, and it looks like he's succeeded. The ignore function works well for me; I can usually skip the quoted passages as they appear.
Thanks again, Alan, for all you do.
Obviously, you are referring to me. I appreciate all Alan has done for this forum but that does not mean I HAVE to agree with him. If you consider this rude, so be it. As far as Packy, I do not find him either witty or humorous, just obnoxious. Obviously, I am not the only one who feels this way. I know when I have offended someone, I try to appease. As you may have noticed, I asked Packy not to respond to my posts. Apparently Packy enjoys to torment and be a troll. This is the LAST time I am going to refer to him or justify myself. I really could care less what you think.
You and a few others here are just looking for something to complain about. The very first post that Packy made directed towards you should have been ignored. As in no response from you and therefore no interaction between the two of you, so no game to play and Packy moves on... But instead you and a few others have responded multiple times with a lot of nastiness on your part to Packy. And then you have the audacity to complain about him when you quite willingly engaged in this little game. You are just as guilty as he is... This is something most of us learn in grade school. Packy likes to tease, but it's up to you to take the bait or not, which you did and you ran with it!
Then you all complain to Alan, some quite rudely I might add....and I'm thinking good grief these women are actually being rude to the very person that provides and funds SLN for all of us to enjoy. Do you all feel entitled or what??? I can't believe it!!!
ToomuchStuff
3-1-15, 12:41am
There seems to be a lot of issues on these forums regarding a certain poster named Packy. I and many others here don't find him to be a problem. He is quite witty and humorous, and we respond in turn with humor. He's not a problem for us.... Some of us have known him for years from the old boards.
Then there's that small group of posters that get upset about a humorous jab at them by Packy and respond quite negatively to him, and then he in turn responds negatively to them, which I can't blame him.... The fight is on. Funny thing is this small group of posters seem to have a few other posters that bother them too that are on their ignore list. They would like Packy and these other posters they don't like gone from SLN. Then it would be a perfect world here, in their opinion.... But then there are those of us here that enjoy a variety of different opinions and outlooks on life from all posters. We don't discriminate or hurl ugly accusations at humorous posters or those we don't agree with.... And we do have a sense of humor!!
And now I see on a thread some of the fussy posters being quite rude to Alan! Do they not realize if it wasn't for Alan there would not even be SLN at this point!!! I think they need a time out or something as they are acting like spoiled children that aren't getting their way!!!:moon:
Where was the survey to find out who finds him humorous, or has a problem with him? (a link please) Not sure how one tells who is on whose ignore list, maybe you could enlighten me as to how to tell.
I understand some people will always grate others, no matter what. Bunny's was grated that I was grated by her use of all (in reference to everyone having a cell phone). That happens. The difference, is we didn't go out of the way looking for a fight online. You may see him as humorous, where I, myself, find him as appropriate as going to Redfox and saying, hey I have a ****** joke for you. (and yes that is meant to be shocking and should be left as an extreme example) That is an attitude, I choose not to deal with.
EDIT: It wasn't left, on a filter list. N word.
Obviously, you are referring to me. I appreciate all Alan has done for this forum but that does not mean I HAVE to agree with him. If you consider this rude, so be it. As far as Packy, I do not find him either witty or humorous, just obnoxious. Obviously, I am not the only one who feels this way. I know when I have offended someone, I try to appease. As you may have noticed, I asked Packy not to respond to my posts. Apparently Packy enjoys to torment and be a troll. This is the LAST time I am going to refer to him or justify myself. I really could care less what you think.
I agree you have a right to disagree with Allen. I think even he would agree with that, as sometimes all of us are wrong and it can be shown and change ones mind (Allen and I had a recent exchange about that). The name calling wasn't appropriate for a mod, and isn't for anyone else.
I also agree that when you ask someone to not input into something, they do share the blame when continuing.
You and a few others here are just looking for something to complain about. The very first post that Packy made directed towards you should have been ignored. As in no response from you and therefore no interaction between the two of you, so no game to play and Packy moves on... But instead you and a few others have responded multiple times with a lot of nastiness on your part to Packy. And then you have the audacity to complain about him when you quite willingly engaged in this little game. You are just as guilty as he is... This is something most of us learn in grade school. Packy likes to tease, but it's up to you to take the bait or not, which you did and you ran with it!
Then you all complain to Alan, some quite rudely I might add....and I'm thinking good grief these women are actually being rude to the very person that provides and funds SLN for all of us to enjoy. Do you all feel entitled or what??? I can't believe it!!!
Game to play? This is a game?
This is supposed to be a place that discussions happen I thought, not a game. A game has winners and losers.
Discussions will press peoples buttons as long as there are opposing viewpoints and EVERYBODY should realize that. Eventually people get tired of it and find things in life they enjoy more and move on. Others choose to try to provoke, and that is the other side of the coin. By posting this thread, you and myself by responding are actually stoking the fire and I expect Allen will end up locking this. Allen did choose to put himself in the position he is in, so he bares that responsibility. Not any different then someone being a moderator and thinking that they won't be held to a higher standard, or thinking that they need the patience of a saint, as (guessing based on other forums I have been on), loose the ability of the ignore lists.
We have lost members before (Mrs. M, Redfox, Bunny's) and will continue to (could have lost Chicken lady as she posted Eatting the Elephant and some of us viewed it as why would I want to eat it when I could find a tastier animal). In my view, trying to provoke upheaval will not help the attrition rate, if it causes users to leave faster then they join.
This is the first time I found out about the Ignore function - and I used it immediately, as I too find Packy irritating and his remarks are often so inappropriate that they set my teeth on edge. Thanks, Songbird!
Alan's financial support does not set him beyond all criticism. If he says things that other members disagree with, they have the full right to bring their views to the forum - otherwise it's money trumping the civil right of free speech. Name-calling is never appropriate. Did Alan give you permission to out his philanthropy to the network?
I don't think you have a mandate, Songbird, to publicly chastise people who disagree with or dislike your personal choices/preferences.
My responses are never deep or filled with much info. My posts are not that great or have questions to world problems. No one missed me or questions where did ctg492 go? Maybe others ignor me. But I still stop by and pretty much know who's posts or responses I will read or not read.
On another board when posts turned snippy, the topic of ice cream flavors was started. I like Turtle or Moose Tracks
rodeosweetheart
3-1-15, 5:25am
Songbird,I think some people find some posters to be abrasive or bullying, and some people find the same posters to be amusing, humorous, and witty. It is a matter of taste, what one likes to do on the forum. If one likes to come to the forum in expectation of a certain kind of respectful, supportive discourse, then one is going to find certain posts offensive, and can either a. ignore, b.report, c. leave.
I have tried a and b and am now going towards c.
But that is obviously my choice.
I don't see why you are upset that not everyone reacts to some posters the way you do. Why should we all react the same? I wasn't going to respond because I have tried to talk about issues of respect and civil discourse and been shot down, but I just wanted to say that there is room for all approaches and opinions, right? Why are you mocking that with an ass icon and calling people names, like "spoiled children"?
When some people feel hurt or threatened by a certain kind of post, then you are certainly free to mock them and shame them, but know that they will leave, when the forum becomes such an unpleasant place for them due to their perception that they are being abused. Why spend time with people who treat one abusively? Then, you can mock and shame some more, but in the end, you just have fewer people on the forum.
Although the topics are so great, you'll probably have an endless stream of new folks to interact with, lol.
I took Alan's comment "LOL, well played Pacman. See ya in a week" to mean that Packy was being banned from the Forums for a week. I don't mind Packy and I do enjoy some of his posts. That said, he does clearly offend many and we don't really need anyone driving people away from the Forums. I would appeal to Packy as an obviously intelligent person to try to be a bit less abrasive, especially toward those who find him disturbing.
Personally, I don't find hammering on stereotypes to be witty or amusing. It certainly doesn't advance any discussion.
If the stereotypes were about certain races, religions, or ethnicities, would you still be finding him witty or amusing? It is only witty because he targets women in their 50s who apparently go to a lot of mooooveeees and eat a lot of pizza with cheeeeeeeze? If he was, for example, picking on black people and continually using fried chicken and watermelon references, would that be fine with you? Is he witty or amusing because he's not targeting YOUR specific demographic?
He is picking on my demographic, as noted above. "Punching up," so to speak. :D
I don't think many of you got my point so I will make it simple - if you don't care for a poster like Packy then simply IGNORE him, don't engage him in conversation, hurling insults his way, ramping up the discord, then whining to Alan to fix it for you. You're an adult and you can fix the problem yourself by simply IGNORING...
And yes, you can disagree with Alan, but please don't be rude to him like one poster who called him snarky a couple days ago. Alan could shut this place down tomorrow if he wanted to. He does everything here from technical to funding and modding, he deserves our respect...
I have found that when he is serious, he has very good, reasonable things to say. I don't know why he feels the need to constantly be so silly. It really does take away from, and give less credibility to, the good stuff he has to say.
I have noticed that many people around here can tolerate a lot of funkiness from various people. That's usually a good trait to have, but then there are some of us who tire of it more quickly than others. I have to wonder why he does it.
rodeosweetheart
3-1-15, 12:10pm
This thread has convinced me it is time to stop posting here. I am going to close my account now. I really appreciate the chance to speak with all of you over these many years. Good luck with your continued participation on the forums.
Oh please don't leave rodeosweetheart. This will pass. Just take a little break.
iris lilies
3-1-15, 1:52pm
Oh please don't leave rodeosweetheart. This will pass. Just take a little break.
Yes please. Agreed!
for me, some behaviors just become boring. Giant walls of text about none sense are easy to ignore because my eyes just do not want to wade through the wall. It,s just more blah blah blah.
I have found that when he is serious, he has very good, reasonable things to say. I don't know why he feels the need to constantly be so silly.
Silly gets wearisome. If I peruse and find a comment silly beyond reason I just ignore the whole comment even though there might be some useful information buried somewhere therein.
Yes please. Agreed!
for me, some behaviors just become boring. Giant walls of text about none sense are easy to ignore because my eyes just do not want to wade through the wall. It,s just more blah blah blah.
Absolutely, boring and verbose comments turn into nonesense and I end up ignoring the whole thing. I usually just check into subjects that I might learn something from. Not sure why I even opened up this thread....curious and nosey I guess because I have nothing concrete to add and I've not got anything constructive from it. Oh well....
ApatheticNoMore
3-1-15, 2:52pm
This thread has convinced me it is time to stop posting here. I am going to close my account now. I really appreciate the chance to speak with all of you over these many years. Good luck with your continued participation on the forums.
don't leave.
I mostly just skim right over Packy's posts because it's mostly sillyness and walls of text. Though, I mostly agree with him when there's a serious point buried in there. On what topic? Oh that long distance vacations are not in any sense simple. That home decorating can easily (super super easily) become consumerism - because it is dissatisfaction with what you have - it's not enough for things to be functional - a lamp, a chair, whatever. But it has to be pretty too, if you are in "decorator mindset". But maybe functional ought to be enough. Oh and that pizza isn't health food (but really very little out of the industrial food system is healthy, things made from scratch are best - if you make pizza from scratch and have no problems with gluten, wheat, or dairy then bon appetit! And if there's free veggie pizza of any kind in the breakroom at work, there's small likelihood of me resisting regardless, health food or no).
Even the few misogynistic posts just came out more sad and pathetic than anything else. But I will call out misogyny when I see it.
Oh and Alan banned Packy for a week probably (though I don't' speak for Alan) because Packy was directly taunting another poster (rather than just the usual walls of gibberish).
This thread has convinced me it is time to stop posting here. I am going to close my account now. I really appreciate the chance to speak with all of you over these many years. Good luck with your continued participation on the forums.
It was never my intention for anyone to leave...
I just wanted some harmony here. I don't feel like anyone really understands what I am trying to say, or the fact that my last paragraph was meant to be humorous...
Maybe I should leave and you should stay, rodeo sweetheart. This is all just becoming a bunch of drama... When I leave a message board I leave quietly. Posting it means everyone should beg you to stay. Drama. Not my style... But I hope you don't leave whatever your reasons for going. I know you have been unhappy here for a long time...
And I think Packy is just looking for attention. Any kind of attention. He strikes me as a lonely man, maybe had his heart broke a few times. He does crack me up sometimes. I am in the demographic he is targeting and sometimes he is spot on! He is intelligent and has a lot of knowledge on several different subjects. He rescues dogs and cats. Too bad we don't see his good side more often here. I think he has been banned for a week, but the poster he was interacting with is just as guilty as he is...
Obviously, you are referring to me. I appreciate all Alan has done for this forum but that does not mean I HAVE to agree with him.
Well of course you don't have to agree with Alan, but calling him snarky is way over the line, don't you agree?
And engaging in verbal battle with Packy was totally unnecessary. For all that you said in your Cereal thread you should have been banned along with Packy... All you needed to do from the very beginning was IGNORE. Although, I have to say Packy's posts made me LOL.
Alan's financial support does not set him beyond all criticism. If he says things that other members disagree with, they have the full right to bring their views to the forum - otherwise it's money trumping the civil right of free speech. Name-calling is never appropriate. Did Alan give you permission to out his philanthropy to the network?
I don't think you have a mandate, Songbird, to publicly chastise people who disagree with or dislike your personal choices/preferences.
Alan outed himself recently on a thread about the financial condition of SLN.
Songbird means well. She is not saying anything here that justifies these harsh words.
If he says things that other members disagree with, they have the full right to bring their views to the forum - otherwise it's money trumping the civil right of free speech.
This is not a public space. It is a privately owned-and-operated forum. There is no "right of free speech" here.
If the owner chooses to censor speech, *that* is his or her right though. The First Amendment protects us against actions of the government, not from the actions of other citizens.
:cool::cool::cool:
I am not a mod.
Its odd how one member can generate more attention when he takes a break than he does while he's here. We're a strange group.
This is not a public space. It is a privately owned-and-operated forum. There is no "right of free speech" here.
If the owner chooses to censor speech, *that* is his or her right though. The First Amendment protects us against actions of the government, not from the actions of other citizens.
Thank you. An astounding number of Americans don't grasp the distinction.
Its odd how one member can generate more attention when he takes a break than he does while he's here.
That's because I feel more comfortable expressing my exasperation knowing I'm not going to immediately be attacked for doing so.
:cool::cool::cool:
I am not a mod.
Too funny!!
Its odd how one member can generate more attention when he takes a break than he does while he's here. We're a strange group.
The fact that more people are speaking up since he is gone speaks volumes! Hope the mods are listening to the concerns being expressed. And thanks again Alan for your work on these forums it is much appreciated!
iris lilies
3-1-15, 7:27pm
:cool::cool::cool:
I am not a mod.
haha yeah, I get it. ;)
ToomuchStuff
3-2-15, 10:18am
Where was the survey to find out who finds him humorous, or has a problem with him? (a link please) Not sure how one tells who is on whose ignore list, maybe you could enlighten me as to how to tell.
Awaiting reply here.
It was never my intention for anyone to leave...
I just wanted some harmony here. I don't feel like anyone really understands what I am trying to say, or the fact that my last paragraph was meant to be humorous...
Maybe I should leave and you should stay, rodeo sweetheart. This is all just becoming a bunch of drama... When I leave a message board I leave quietly. Posting it means everyone should beg you to stay. Drama. Not my style... But I hope you don't leave whatever your reasons for going. I know you have been unhappy here for a long time...
And I think Packy is just looking for attention. Any kind of attention. He strikes me as a lonely man, maybe had his heart broke a few times. He does crack me up sometimes. I am in the demographic he is targeting and sometimes he is spot on! He is intelligent and has a lot of knowledge on several different subjects. He rescues dogs and cats. Too bad we don't see his good side more often here. I think he has been banned for a week, but the poster he was interacting with is just as guilty as he is...
You may not, do we know if he is?
We don't know what his intentions are, but he does appear to be looking for drama, so how you can expect that bringing him up won't create drama, is completely unclear to me. By reading his posts and how people respond to it, you should have realized he is not a subject that brings harmony, any more then abortion, politics, religion, etc.
Smiley's are one thing you might learn how to use more. This is a text based sight and there are no human based clues as to humor. It can be read with different tones (could be mood dependent, etc) by the reader, so it is harder to tell if something is supposed to be humorous, cynical, smart ass, serious, or what. That may well be part of his issue as well. (you read him as joking, and he could be serious)
That doesn't take into account, that humor is subjective and I may not be a subject in your kingdom.
Its odd how one member can generate more attention when he takes a break than he does while he's here. We're a strange group.
He didn't generate more attention, as this isn't by him, but about him. The attention was started a long time ago and maybe you have the ability to see when he started things like whose ignore functions were activated and all, the rest of the non mod's only have pm'ing and ignore functions (which I have stated my views on incompleteness), amongst them.
This is an open sharing of the thoughts/feelings/atitudes from both sides (support him, or wish he would die off), without him getting in the way. (the way people talk about how they have to deal with a family member when something major has happened like an arrest suspected of something awful).
It is an extension of the flight or fight response. IMHE
Not sure how one tells who is on whose ignore list, maybe you could enlighten me as to how to tell.
Awaiting reply here.
You can't. No one can. Someone implied earlier that the ignore function clearly did not work if others can simply quote passages from a person they've placed on ignore. In reality, the ignore function worked exactly as it is supposed to, the post where the offending person's words appeared belonged to someone else. The only way to keep that from happening would be to announce everyone on each individual ignore list and expect all other members to refrain from interacting with them. It's sort of like forbidding your crazy Uncle Albert from visiting your home on Thanksgiving and then being disappointed that your wishes were not respected when you ran into him at Aunt Maude's house when you visited her at Christmas.
I'm surprised to be reading all this. I had no idea of the drama going on. Packy irked the heck out of me. But I generally ignored him.
But what peeved me the most about Packy? His spelling and the way he wrote, silly it was, but it made me nuts! ;)
His spelling and the way he wrote, silly it was, but it made me nuts! ;)
Maybe this should be another thread and it is not Packy specific but intentional misspelling of words and intentional incorrect grammar makes me crazy so if I see it in a post, I just don't read it. If a a person truly does not know how to spell a word or correct grammar than that is excusable but it's the intentional part that bugs me.
Teacher Terry
3-2-15, 7:40pm
If I find someone irritating I just don't read their post. Some of his are funny & some are annoying. I either skim to see which it is or skip it.
I have no idea what this original post was in reference to, some other posting I assume. Does not seem worth the time to start looking for it. Sure took on a life of its own however. Now I am just afraid of my spelling mistakes.
Yes, CTG, same here. For me sometimes they are typos, and sometimes I will post on the Forums more conversationally than I would write a business memo, for example.
I have no idea what this original post was in reference to, some other posting I assume. Does not seem worth the time to start looking for it. Sure took on a life of its own however. Now I am just afraid of my spelling mistakes.
Yes, CTG, same here. For me sometimes they are typos, and sometimes I will post on the Forums more conversationally than I would write a business memo, for example.
If you are referring to my post specifically, please note that I used the word 'intentional'.
I have no problem with mistaken spelling, typos or spell check errors but it's the intentional, purposeful, repetitive misspelling that bothers me. Sometimes misspelling a word to make a point is fine, using slang or conversational speech is fine but when every other word is intentionally misspelled may be entertainment to some but I will skip the post.
I was joking ;) I have terrible spelling, sometime auto spell picks it up other times not. Plus me old eyes not as good and at 3 am I can't tell what my spelling looks like!
I was joking ;) I have terrible spelling, sometime auto spell picks it up other times not. Plus me old eyes not as good and at 3 am I can't tell what my spelling looks like!
ctg492, I used to be a great speller, but I really struggle these days! I would never judge someone on their spelling or grammar.... And it's not always easy to tell when someone is being intentional with bad spelling or grammar. But I think it is obvious that the subject of this thread, Packy, is intentional with his incorrect grammar and spelling! I have suggested to him a couple times about using paragraphs, but he didn't take the hint. LOL I just can't read long posts without paragraphs - it is very difficult with my bad vision....
On a site I frequent, and dearly love (shipoffools.com) -- British Anglicans (yep, it's a religious site :D ) but with topics ALL OVER THE PLACE and people all over the world :D ... they have specific categories -- Heaven, Purgatory, etc etc. ... including HELL. If you get really mad or upset with someone, you call him/her to HELL and the battle begins. No holds barred, more or less. If you don't want to visit HELL, you don't have to. I don't recall anyone leaving over these encounters, but my memory isn't what it once was. There can be disagreements in the other categories, of course, but I don't recall real problems, and it seems to be kind of forgive-and-forget and live-and-let-live and no one quits in a huff. I've been a member here, on and off, under a couple of different names, and have not found any topic or any one offensive enough to get upset about.
And thinking more, it's possible that back in my younger days here I might have been offended by Packy and his other incarnations, and even other posters, but I've forgotten. Sometimes growing older is a blessing ... <3
Kids, you need to grow up, act your age(like littlebittymee), get with the program, start cutting the mustard, behave like adults, straighten up and fly right, and accept one basic fact: Comedy Isn't Pretty. Okay--so you think I'm not Funny. You need to get real, and accept the fact that Comedy IS funny, even if you are the object of the joke. Bob Dole, U.S. Senator & Presidential Candidate, and maimed WWII Veteran, accepted the fact that mocking him was funny! So did Bill Clinton, George(es) Bush, Ed Sullivan, and many, many more. They, put their beliefs out there, for everyone to see. So has everyone on this forum--except for the taking a joke at their expense part. So, if you expect to call yourself "Frugal One", and on a forum specifically about Voluntary Simplicity, start an oxymoronic thread, place-dropping about some vacation spot where you ate mush for breakfast, why in the heck expect praise and positive feedback from absolutely everyone? Then bitch like hell, because they didn't kiss up to you? Answer that! See? If this is not what you want to hear, here, how about demanding they change the name and the purpose of the forum to: "Middle-Aged Ladies Prestige Love-Me-Unconditionally Chit-Chat Club"? Then, there will be no mistake about what the inputs of the conversation should be. Also, in terms of moderation: the application of forum policies should be even-handed. I think you kids know what I'm talking about. It makes me wonder: Is the beloved Chrystal back again, if not in person, but in spirit? Hope that helps you kids some. Later. Thankk Mee.
Kids, you need to grow up, act your age(like littlebittymee), get with the program, start cutting the mustard, behave like adults, straighten up and fly right, and accept one basic fact: Comedy Isn't Pretty. Okay--so you think I'm not Funny. You need to get real, and accept the fact that Comedy IS funny, even if you are the object of the joke. Bob Dole, U.S. Senator & Presidential Candidate, and maimed WWII Veteran, accepted the fact that mocking him was funny! So did Bill Clinton, George(es) Bush, Ed Sullivan, and many, many more. They, put their beliefs out there, for everyone to see. So has everyone on this forum--except for the taking a joke at their expense part. So, if you expect to call yourself "Frugal One", and on a forum specifically about Voluntary Simplicity, start an oxymoronic thread, place-dropping about some vacation spot where you ate mush for breakfast, why in the heck expect praise and positive feedback from absolutely everyone? Then bitch like hell, because they didn't kiss up to you? Answer that! See? If this is not what you want to hear, here, how about demanding they change the name and the purpose of the forum to: "Middle-Aged Ladies Prestige Love-Me-Unconditionally Chit-Chat Club"? Then, there will be no mistake about what the inputs of the conversation should be. Also, in terms of moderation: the application of forum policies should be even-handed. I think you kids know what I'm talking about. It makes me wonder: Is the beloved Chrystal back again, if not in person, but in spirit? Hope that helps you kids some. Later. Thankk Mee.
I don't consider remarks that belittle others to be humor or have any other value, but bullying driven by the primitive ego as some sort of rudimentary selfish biological programming to preserve one's own genetics. Whether Ed Sullivan accepted it or not, and can apply to both sides of this discussion. Though I can appreciate some of these other comments.
frugal-one
3-5-15, 10:25am
I don't consider remarks that belittle others to be humor or have any other value, but bullying driven by the primitive ego as some sort of rudimentary selfish biological programming to preserve one's own genetics. Whether Ed Sullivan accepted it or not, and can apply to both sides of this discussion. Though I can appreciate some of these other comments.
I agree with Rogar! Yes, I am frugal-one..... so that I CAN travel. I have saved and worked all of my life to get to this stage. Thankfully, I am alive yet to enjoy it! The purpose of this forum, IMO, is to share ideas. End of discussion!
ApatheticNoMore
3-5-15, 11:59am
I've think I've probably sworn off air traveling for life, too much carbon (yea sure commuting to work is also not great, but harder to change as it's easy to get stuck in - but does one air flight really use as much fossil fuel as a whole years commuting, as I've heard?). Anyway I know I'm not perfect, I'm just not looking to take up yet more bad habits. If anything I hope to have less. I do think the Packy taunting sometimes goes too far though sure.
Someone just posted a Joe Bonamassa video on FB and I thought of you, Packy. I had never heard of him before you brought him up, and now the two of you will always be inextricably linked in my mind :)
Someone just posted a Joe Bonamassa video on FB and I thought of you, Packy. I had never heard of him before you brought him up, and now the two of you will always be inextricably linked in my mind :) Oh, oh rosa--I'm gonna report you to the mods for bullying littlebittymee by even mentioning that Joe Bonnymessa. You just KNEW it would push my buttons, didn't you! Hope that helps you some. thank mee. I must go now, and listen to some of that "pop" music, that the cool people scorn.
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