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Packy
5-3-15, 9:10pm
I've been meaning to bring this one up for awhile, now. I have a littlebittytheory, about something. You kids know that I am not a genius, or else I would at least have a Masters Degree in Basketweaving from some small, private Liberal Arts College. Well, wouldn't I? Anyway, my um, theory is that Einstein really didn't invent anything useful, and is given waaaaaay, waaaay too much credit for being a Genius. By the way--you don't have to know zackly how things work(theory)to invent useful things. Anyway, schools need to downplay Einstein. He was not so remarkable. Sorry. Just Not.

bae
5-3-15, 9:54pm
Hilarious.

Zoe Girl
5-3-15, 10:22pm
agh but he was the adorable scientist type so you gotta love him.

Packy
5-4-15, 12:03am
Well, okay--you kids think I'm being ridiculous!! Ha. Okay, what did he do that was very useful, to anyone but himself? I place him in a category with people like L Ron Hubbard or The Kardashians or some college football player. Famous For Being Famous for being Einssstein. That's it. Einiestein's one really clever trick was getting his scrawny tail out of Germany, just in time, and getting situated in a nice teaching job at Princeton or some Ivory Tower like that. Last I heard, his brain was in a jar in Wichita. That was in the late-80's. Okay--so what did he invent that is any good? How is humanity any better off? He's no Tesla, no Jonas Salk, no Curie, no Edison, certainly no Henry Ford. The ball is in your court. Take a swing at it. Okay--I checked, and it said Einsteins brain was cut up into 48 blocks, after being photographed. Then samples were taken for research purposes. The Mutter Museum in PA has some slides on display, that contain einsteins' brain material. Most of the brain is now in the possession of the National Institutes of Health. But, there really wasn't anything special about it. Yet, you kids are sooo impressed with sci-fi stuff like "black holes". He was involved in various political things, after his arrival in the USA. He worked at the Patent Office, for awhile. But, I can't find anything he built, or designed, that makes life better. Just "Theories". I have theories, but I'm just a crackpot, right? Einstein, was very much ovveracclaimed. All there is to it. Now you know.

Tiam
5-4-15, 1:51am
Well, to a degree I think you have a point. But he was important not because he had an amazing brain, but because he had an amazing theory. Like Copernicus, Newton, Galileo,Kepler. They were great thinkers who used science to create hypothesis that move us forward. Einstein was a creative thinker. He used creativity along with physics. And maybe that's the lesson to be learned. Understanding science sometimes needs a boost.

Tammy
5-4-15, 9:31am
http://xkcd.com/1520/

bae
5-4-15, 1:20pm
http://images.cryhavok.org/d/22899-1/Bro+Do+You+Even+Science_.png

https://haroldgibbons.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/broscience-doyouevenlift_891b8f_4320288.jpg

Packy
5-4-15, 1:42pm
Well, kids--thanks for sending littlebittymee your cartoons and captioned pitcherz. But, what about the question--what did Eisyschtein actually contribute, besides blackboard mumbo-jumbo? I've never seen Henry Ford in front of a blackboard scrawled with mumbo jumbo. Albies' given credit for being some sort of peacenik, but at the same time, credit for the a-bomb. Not directly--he didn't actually work on it. He didn't work on ANYTHING, except being Albbie. Kind of like a Kardashian. See? Eisenstein, as we know him, is another one of those doublespeak contradictions, like a Nobbell Pizza prize. Did he ever get a Nobbell Pizza prize? Maybe 2-3 of 'em? To be fair to Alfred Nobel--for the most part, dynamite has proven to be a pretty useful benefit to humanity. But, we don't have cliches' about him, like "you're no Eisenstein"; most people don't even know who he was. See? Hope that helps you kids some. Thankk mee.

bae
5-4-15, 1:52pm
You are confusing science with engineering.

The characters and images on your screen wouldn't be there without technology based on some of Big Al's work. Your GPS wouldn't work either. Or hundreds of other common-day items.

LDAHL
5-4-15, 2:08pm
You are confusing science with engineering.

The characters and images on your screen wouldn't be there without technology based on some of Big Al's work. Your GPS wouldn't work either. Or hundreds of other common-day items.

Oh, we'd have them. Some other bright spark would have come along. Maybe without the insufferable self-promotion.

bae
5-4-15, 2:35pm
Road-Song of the Bandar-Log

Here we go in a flung festoon,
Half-way up to the jealous moon!
Don't you envy our pranceful bands?
Don't you wish you had extra hands?
Wouldn't you like if your tails were--so--
Curved in the shape of a Cupid's bow?
Now you're angry, but--never mind,
Brother, thy tail hangs down behind!

Here we sit in a branchy row,
Thinking of beautiful things we know;
Dreaming of deeds that we mean to do,
All complete, in a minute or two--
Something noble and wise and good,
Done by merely wishing we could.
We've forgotten, but--never mind,
Brother, thy tail hangs down behind!

All the talk we ever have heard
Uttered by bat or beast or bird--
Hide or fin or scale or feather--
Jabber it quickly and all together!
Excellent! Wonderful! Once again!

Now we are talking just like men!
Let's pretend we are ... never mind,
Brother, thy tail hangs down behind!

This is the way of the Monkey-kind.
Then join our leaping lines that scumfish through the pines,
That rocket by where, light and high, the wild grape swings.
By the rubbish in our wake, and the noble noise we make,
Be sure, be sure, we're going to do some splendid things!

Packy
5-4-15, 2:41pm
Zactly, Dahl. I always figured that one o' the many, many reasons I lacked genius was because even though I had lots of theories-- I'd get to checking--and someone else already beat me to it. I now realize I prolly have never had an original thought. If you look at The Beatles--very famous. But, they definitely drew upon the works of others. See? There were others working on development of the light bulb, building automobiles, and so forth, that were contemporaries of Edison & Ford. It may be that people--the fanatical kind I've ranted about before, have a need for Iconic Personalities, that are larger than life. So with Einstein-- I figure that HIS real talent was self-promotion. Are you listening, Mr BAE? All it is. That explains it.

Zoe Girl
5-4-15, 3:11pm
You are confusing science with engineering.

The characters and images on your screen wouldn't be there without technology based on some of Big Al's work. Your GPS wouldn't work either. Or hundreds of other common-day items.

Science is different than what most people think. It is about having an idea and seeing if you can prove it wrong in many cases. You cannot prove something but you can disprove it's opposite or other conflicting opinion. It is highly creative and imaginative, more like arts than accounting. And they really are not original ideas (that is why scientists fight over ideas so much), but a different idea to put out there and challenge other people to prove wrong.

I read the biography of Einstein, I really like him more and got a better idea of how science works and what the heck relativity is. I think they are proving it wrong or incomplete now.

Packy
5-4-15, 3:52pm
Okay, then. We have managed to move Eiststein to the level of a Carl Sagan or Bill Nye. That is a step in the right direction. I may read a bio of Albert, too. Did you know that comedian/actor Albert Brooks' real name is "Albert Einstein"? Did you also know that the comic actor who is the "Super Dave Osborne" character is Albert (Einstein) Brooks' brother? His real name is "Bob Einstein". How do you like that? Hope that helps you some. Thankk Mee. Next topic: Sigmund Freud: Not all that great, either.
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Tiam
5-6-15, 1:54am
Well, kids--thanks for sending littlebittymee your cartoons and captioned pitcherz. But, what about the question--what did Eisyschtein actually contribute, besides blackboard mumbo-jumbo? I've never seen Henry Ford in front of a blackboard scrawled with mumbo jumbo. Albies' given credit for being some sort of peacenik, but at the same time, credit for the a-bomb. Not directly--he didn't actually work on it. He didn't work on ANYTHING, except being Albbie. Kind of like a Kardashian. See? Eisenstein, as we know him, is another one of those doublespeak contradictions, like a Nobbell Pizza prize. Did he ever get a Nobbell Pizza prize? Maybe 2-3 of 'em? To be fair to Alfred Nobel--for the most part, dynamite has proven to be a pretty useful benefit to humanity. But, we don't have cliches' about him, like "you're no Eisenstein"; most people don't even know who he was. See? Hope that helps you kids some. Thankk mee.


Every step or leap of thought forward is just that. It is just moving the knowledge and understanding forward. Einstein is part of that curve.

Packy
5-6-15, 3:20am
Every step or leap of thought forward is just that. It is just moving the knowledge and understanding forward. Einstein is part of that curve.Well, thanks for your contribution, here, Tiam. That, is 'zackly how I figure I fit into the learning curve---every littlebitty crackpot assertion I put forward--well---there is a maybe/maybe not chance that history and science will validate mee, someday. See? Thankke Mee.

TVRodriguez
5-6-15, 10:30am
I couldn't resist posting this old Kids in the Hall moment--my 8 year old loves it:

https://youtu.be/d-EgbhdcSKc (kids in the hall: einstein)

Packy
5-30-15, 1:26am
Okay--here's one to think about. For years now, I been flea-treating my pets with this "stuff" that is applied topically, marketed under various names. It comes in unresealable plastic vials, that you break open, then use. I buy the largest, most economical size, and it will treat multiple animals. My vet sells you a plastic vial of the stuff, along with a hypodermic syringe, and a glass vial ("test tube")with a rubber stopper. You crack open the plastic vial, pour the contents of it(or 2 of them)into the glass vial, leaving some airspace, and then insert the rubber stopper. Then, you draw some air into your syringe, insert the needle through the rubber stopper, and use the plunger on the syringe to pressurize the airspace in the test tube, then tip it so the "stuff" is drawn back into the syringe as the plunger in the syringe is withdrawn enough to fill the syringe to however many cc's you want. See? Then, detach the needle from the syringe, leaving it in the stopper, and apply the zact amount to your pet, using the needle-less syringe. Repeat. If you have "stuff" left in the glass tube that you can use later on, just pull the needle out of the stopper; the stopper will reseal itself so that no "stuff" leaks out. All very simple, but I grant you--it does take a little practice. The same principle is used for hydrating vials of injectable killed virus vaccine, prior to use. Okay--about 4-5 years ago a certain company had a brilliant idea. Some really original thinking, right? The company came up with the idea of doing the same procedure with vintage wines stoppered with natural cork. People could then sample that bottle of vino they paid big-bucks for, without uncorking it. Ha. Dealers of vintage wine could sample bottles to check quality, especially if the airspace in the top of the bottle was larger than it should be--then inject some generic wine into the bottle to replace what had been withdrawn for sampling, plus extra to bring the airspace up to an acceptable level. See? Nobody gets hurt, everyone is satisfied, right? Well, apparently, the company made the machine that does the work in such a way that it was not "idiotproof", and there were numerous cases of exploding wine bottles, evidently due to overpressurization and/or hydraulic-ing the glass wine bottle.. So, the maker took the device off the retail market. They were prolly getting sued right and left by yuppies who are expert at generating paperwork at the office & superb at paying too much for a bottle of Eau De Chateau, but all thumbs when it came to being savvy about using that particular device. See? But, my point is---in case you didn't get it--is that someone took an existing concept, and applied it to another use. It seemed like a good idea, and it was in some respects. But, it was not a novel approach that had not been thought of, before. Just new for that particular purpose. I figure that there were very few formulas on a chalkboard, during the development of that product.. But, maybe there should have been. Hope that helps you kids. Thankk Mee.