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IshbelRobertson
7-7-15, 10:54am
This is the tenth anniversary of the bombings of London tube stations and a London bus. Over 50 were killed by home-grown islamist terrorists. My daughter was travelling on a tube train that morning. The police closed down all mobile phone networks and it was late afternoon before shw was able to let us know she was safe.

30 more, British tourists killed on a beach in Tunisia recently.

It appears there is no end in sight.

iris lilies
7-7-15, 12:01pm
That was a terrible thing. It seems to me that UK and Europe have been better at growing their own Islamic terrorists than the U.S. The Charlie Hebdo perps were locally grown. But we are gaining, and will undoubtedly see more of it. More terrible things to come.

leslieann
7-7-15, 12:02pm
Ten years. Wow. So glad your daughter was safe, but what a terrible day you must have had...many people must have had.

I can't really wrap my head around the horrible damage we are doing to ourselves. How do human beings decide that it is okay to harm other human beings? I know, too philosophical but it still eludes me.

IshbelRobertson
7-7-15, 1:36pm
For those who may not have read about the 30 British people killed whilst sunbathing
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/tunisia-attack-seven-dead-as-gunman-opens-fire-on-tourists-at-holiday-resort-10348062.html

IshbelRobertson
7-7-15, 1:42pm
That was a terrible thing. It seems to me that UK and Europe have been better at growing their own Islamic terrorists than the U.S. The Charlie Hebdo perps were locally grown. But we are gaining, and will undoubtedly see more of it. More terrible things to come.

I think it's probably because, in Europe, we were conscious that we should allow foreign immigrants to continue with their cultural identity by allowing Islamic schools, mosques and those places allowed fanatics to preach, with the police standing helplessly on the sidelines.

America is much more of a melting pot and seems to have avoided so many of the pitfalls we European nations walked into.

Saying that, I would not holiday in any Muslim country in the present climate. I have happy memories of past holidays in Tunisia, Morocco, Egypt and Jordan.

Lainey
7-7-15, 8:17pm
Ishbel, there was a segment on the National Public Radio this afternoon about this. One man said his wife (girlfriend? - I didn't catch the very beginning) seemed on edge that morning and asked him to hold her. So they cuddled in bed for 15 minutes before she got dressed and went to work. Sadly she was one of the victims. He often thought of what a difference that 15 minutes made in the timing of her commute, but of course it's precious to him that that was their last time together.

catherine
7-7-15, 10:53pm
I think it's probably because, in Europe, we were conscious that we should allow foreign immigrants to continue with their cultural identity by allowing Islamic schools, mosques and those places allowed fanatics to preach, with the police standing helplessly on the sidelines.

America is much more of a melting pot and seems to have avoided so many of the pitfalls we European nations walked into.


I'm not sure our proverbial melting pot has protected us. It's a combination of diligence on the part of people who are in charge of that and luck.

That was a horribly tragic day for you and I'm sure it's fraught with flashbacks, just as our 9/11 is for us.

My thoughts are with over there.

Zoe Girl
7-8-15, 9:09am
i am anticipating July 20th, the Aurora Movie theater shooting, my daughter worked there and was there that night. not as large as some others but very much something deeply affecting her and our family.