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Anyone upgrade/update to iPhone iOS 9? I have the feeling I shouldn't have, since I don't even use all the stuff on the 8. Plus.......it took me all morning to download/upload it, because my phone was having a seizure.
I know I'm stuck in my ways.......but why do they have to change certain, simple things, just to appear like they've improved? Like now, they've rearranged all the icons (page 1/page 2). And now a page you are done looking at is on the left side of the screen (to swish away) instead of the right. It's like all the stores feeling like they have to change all the shelves in the store every so often.
Just venting. I don't like change, when it is totally unnecessary.
I did see something on a google search that said "how to change your iOS9 back to 8. I just might do that.
I upgraded. I always do - one reason is to get the best virus protection by running the newest stuff.
I'm updating my iPhone 6 right now. Then I'll do my iPad. I'm looking forward to being able to download an ad blocker extension to the Safari mobile browser like I do with Safari on my MacBook.
I'm kind of excited about some of the new features. But I'll be waiting until 9.1 probably, or at least until enough people have upgraded that articles are written about the potential problems that will inevitably pop up, as well as how frequently they manifest themselves.
I just downloaded IOS9 on my iPhone and am doing iPad right now. Will be interested in exploring the differences.
I'm just am not smart enough to figure all this ever-changing stuff out. 😕
Here are the changes from the horse's mouth:
http://www.apple.com/ios/
I'm just am not smart enough to figure all this ever-changing stuff out.
And some folks just don't want to deal with change. My wife and I both have iPhones and iPads, mine is a company phone and tablet and hers are personal. My IT dept has requested that company phones not be upgraded to this major release until they've ensured apps will not be broken. Now I, being the resident geek, would really like to upgrade her devices just to play with the new OS. She says, 'No way in hell Buster, if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. I guess I'll just twiddle my thumbs for the next couple of weeks.
She says, 'No way in hell Buster, if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. I guess I'll just twiddle my thumbs for the next couple of weeks.
I am praying that DW does not see a invitation from Apple to upgrade and taps the button without thinking. In some ways, life was a lot simpler with an iPad that stopped at iOS 5...
Personally, I'm waiting for an update or two (9.0.1 or 9.0.2) before I tap the button. There's nothing in it I need to have now, some of the most interesting stuff relies on my MacBook Pro being updated to the new "El Capitan" version of OS X, and I've lived too long with alpha and beta software (some of it even helpfully labeled as such) to want to be that much of a pioneer anymore.:doh:
El Capitan comes out on the 30th.
Somewhat related - does anyone else use Apple Pay? I love it!
Somewhat related - does anyone else use Apple Pay? I love it!
SO uses it and loves it. I prefer FRNs for as much as possible so I've not gotten around to trying out apple pay.
El Capitan comes out on the 30th.
It does, and I will be waiting for 10.10.1 or 10.10.2 on that one, too.
Somewhat related - does anyone else use Apple Pay? I love it!
I do. I like it very much. And I hope it's a winning format for smartphone payments.
Related to the "people who write checks" thread in another forum, though, my first time trying ApplePay was at a Trader Joe's, and something got bollixed up as far as the timing of the connection. I would love to have played with it, but there was a line behind me that wasn't there when I first got to the checkstand. Tried it somewhere else at another time.....
SO uses it and loves it. I prefer FRNs for as much as possible so I've not gotten around to trying out apple pay.
FRNs?
I use it at a number of stores locally and I even pay for gas at the pump with it on the odd occasion I'm near a Meijer. If Target took it in the stores, that would be perfect.
It's kind of funny using it at the McDonald's drive through. They have to put the payment terminal out the window (it's on a long cable). Some employees have never dealt with it and have the deer in the headlights look when I tell them what they need to do. Starbucks workers, on the other hand, know what to do when I show them my card in the app. The guy who manages the Subway near work was fascinated the first time I used it.
Another Apple question for fellow Gmail users - do you prefer the Gmail app or Apple Mail?
If you use Apple Mail on a MacBook, will it download all your email from said Gmail account? I've saved a ton of stuff on my Gmail, but I don't want it to clog up my computer (or phone or iPad).
FRNs?
Federal Reserve Notes. Cash.
I use the gmail app on my iPhone.
I don't use other apple products (tablet, laptop) ... I don't use any other products at all actually. Just my phone for everything.
Williamsmith
9-18-15, 6:16am
Do you guys realize how much hydrocarbon fuel was used to develop, produce and distribute all these techno iPhones,,iPads, laptops and tablets you own and use. Do you know what percent of the poor populations of the earth wish they could have a device like this? Simply Living......how much of a hypocrite does that make us? Shouldn't we be hand written letters, reading paper books, paying bills with currency and buying things from the merchant face to face. Sitting around a fire telling stories instead of an on line forum about the newest OS download.
Do you guys realize how much hydrocarbon fuel was used to develop, produce and distribute all these techno iPhones,,iPads, laptops and tablets you own and use. Do you know what percent of the poor populations of the earth wish they could have a device like this? Simply Living......how much of a hypocrite does that make us? Shouldn't we be hand written letters, reading paper books, paying bills with currency and buying things from the merchant face to face. Sitting around a fire telling stories instead of an on line forum about the newest OS download.
Yes.....everything you say is true. But it is pretty darned hard living that kind of life in the middle of this culture. I guess we just do what we can do.
Not to be a pessimist, but the horse is out of the barn. There's no stopping it now. We do what we can do.....even though we (I) know it's nowhere near enough.
I keep thinking about the movie "The Village". It's one of my favorites. But even they had problems. I do think about making a village, where everyone is willing to go back in time, and do things much more simply. But then we'd get in trouble for not paying taxes, etc., and we'd be called a cult.
Just curious Williamsmith.........how do you live? What kind of choices do you make? Are you married or have children? I'm interested in your viewpoint.
Ultralight
9-18-15, 9:33am
Do you guys realize how much hydrocarbon fuel was used to develop, produce and distribute all these techno iPhones,,iPads, laptops and tablets you own and use. Do you know what percent of the poor populations of the earth wish they could have a device like this? Simply Living......how much of a hypocrite does that make us? Shouldn't we be hand written letters, reading paper books, paying bills with currency and buying things from the merchant face to face. Sitting around a fire telling stories instead of an on line forum about the newest OS download.
I kicked my cell phone, been clean about a year now.
ApatheticNoMore
9-18-15, 11:03am
Do you guys realize how much hydrocarbon fuel was used to develop, produce and distribute all these techno iPhones,,iPads, laptops and tablets you own and use. Do you know what percent of the poor populations of the earth wish they could have a device like this? Simply Living......how much of a hypocrite does that make us? Shouldn't we be hand written letters, reading paper books, paying bills with currency and buying things from the merchant face to face. Sitting around a fire telling stories instead of an on line forum about the newest OS download.
i think it's just an OS upgrade not a new device. But no cell phones? So we should quit our jobs and just tell stories around the fire with no income, and if not we're hypocrites?
(being on call is a requirement for work, if I didn't do it, I'd be fired. I could use the phone they provide but they just provide ONE phone for everyone and people routinely forget to bring it when we trade off being on call because they assume everyone has a cell phone, so having no cell to forward to ... would be a problem. Having a computer at home is a requirement for work to do the on call support, if I didn't have it I'd be fired, no a computer at the library wouldn't work for this, it wouldn't have all the software, no work doesn't magically provide a computer for me to work at home just because it's required for the job). Whether or not I would do these anyway (yes the computer, the phone, it's dumb, and at times I haven't had even this dumb phone, but you do get addicted). I'd like nothing more than to have a job that didn't invade on my so called free time though! The people that get all their weekends free don't know how lucky they are.
Because computers and cell phones aren't JUST things people have for fun, they are things they need for their employment. It's like telling someone to "quit their car" when they deliver pizzas for a living.
Ultralight
9-18-15, 11:08am
i think it's just an OS upgrade not a new device. But no cell phones? So we should quit our jobs and just tell stories around the fire with no income, and if not we're hypocrites?
(being on call is a requirement for work, if I didn't do it, I'd be fired. I could use the phone they provide but they just provide ONE phone for everyone and people routinely forget to bring it when we trade off being on call because they assume everyone has a cell phone, so having no cell to forward to ... would be a problem. Having a computer at home is a requirement for work to do the on call support, if I didn't have it I'd be fired, no a computer at the library wouldn't work for this, it wouldn't have all the software, no work doesn't magically provide a computer for me to work at home just because it's required for the job). Whether or not I would do these anyway (yes the computer, the phone, it's dumb, and at times I haven't had even this dumb phone, but you do get addicted). I'd like nothing more than to have a job that didn't invade on my so called free time though! The people that get all their weekends free don't know how lucky they are.
Because computers and cell phones aren't JUST things people have for fun, they are things they need for their employment. It's like telling someone to "quit their car" when they deliver pizzas for a living.
Someday I may have no choice but to get a cell phone again, probably for work. This is likely because we are always moving closer to a culture of total work. We are nearly there.
For the time being, I am enjoying being cell phone free. :)
I've not had a landline in some years. I also don't think it's a good idea safety-wise for a woman to be traveling alone as I do on long road trips without a cell phone. I think to do so otherwise is the height of foolishness.
Ultralight
9-18-15, 2:05pm
I've not had a landline in some years. I also don't think it's a good idea safety-wise for a woman to be traveling alone as I do on long road trips without a cell phone. I think to do so otherwise is the height of foolishness.
You might well be right. I have straight/white/male privilege, so I don't have to worry about many of the things women, gays, or people of colors need to worry about. So I am in no way faulting someone else for needing a cell phone.
When I first tossed my celly a friend gave me this "come to Jesus!" speech about how I was taking things too far and that someone could kidnap me and I would be unable to get help without a cell phone.
There also,aren't nearly as many pay phones today.
Ultralight
9-18-15, 3:08pm
There also,aren't nearly as many pay phones today.
In the past year without a cell phone I have not needed it. I don't think I used a pay phone ever either...
I haven't seen a pay phone in years.
rosarugosa
9-18-15, 7:42pm
Cathy: I think it's a matter of where you are, because I see them every day at all the subway stations. I pay attention since I don't carry a cell phone.
You might well be right. I have straight/white/male privilege, so I don't have to worry about many of the things women, gays, or people of colors need to worry about. So I am in no way faulting someone else for needing a cell phone.
When I first tossed my celly a friend gave me this "come to Jesus!" speech about how I was taking things too far and that someone could kidnap me and I would be unable to get help without a cell phone.
I don't believe in the "privilege" crap, but it's just plan common sense that if you're driving 1000 miles, a lot of it through rural areas, that having a cell phone with you is a good idea, female or not.
.... eh. A lot of my longer distance travel is in Mexico, where the phone rarely works anyway. I've never felt particularly terrified of being without it.
Williamsmith
9-19-15, 2:13am
Yes.....everything you say is true. But it is pretty darned hard living that kind of life in the middle of this culture. I guess we just do what we can do.
Not to be a pessimist, but the horse is out of the barn. There's no stopping it now. We do what we can do.....even though we (I) know it's nowhere near enough.
I keep thinking about the movie "The Village". It's one of my favorites. But even they had problems. I do think about making a village, where everyone is willing to go back in time, and do things much more simply. But then we'd get in trouble for not paying taxes, etc., and we'd be called a cult.
Just curious Williamsmith.........how do you live? What kind of choices do you make? Are you married or have children? I'm interested in your viewpoint.
I live simply, not for the good of the environment but for my own personal well being. It just suits me better than a chaotic, hurried stuff filled life.
I make choices only when I am given reasonable alternatives but that's not often. I don't believe in saving the Earth naturally follows an Eco conscious life. The Earth is trying to rid itself of a perisite known as mankind and probably will some day reduce the population by a billion or two no matter if I recycle or not. But I do many things that would qualify me as a tree hugger only because I happen to love nature.
My my three children and wife support me and I them.
What I think about is how much every life in the first world countries depend on oil and oil based products. And that only the countries that control the resources can force others to do without so that we can do with plenty. And that my country has proven in the past and will do so again in the future.....use military and covert forces to ensure that our current lifestyle is not negotiable. And that I am necessarily condoning and enabling all this to happen because I exercise all my rights and privileges as a citizen.
You buy an iPhone....iPad....etc.....anything made with oil.....you steal lunch money from the skinny kid in study hall. That's just the way it is and no amount of conservation, Eco babble, green living or pointing fingers will change that you are equally responsible for someone else's suffering while you prosper. Doesn't matter if you own 182 things or 1820 things......you are culpable. So just try not to feel too good about yourself for your good works.
Im not fighting it. I accept it. The U.S. of A is a pretty good place to live. Not negotiable. Why else would we give a crap about a sandbox in the Middle East. Some day we will have to take it and keep it.
I won't be upgrading by the way.
I read somewhere that plastic can be manufactured from hemp. Googling...
http://www.hempplastic.com/\
Maybe this is one solution.
I tend to agree that the planet will deal with us as we do with an infection, eventually.
Do you guys realize how much hydrocarbon fuel was used to develop, produce and distribute all these techno iPhones,,iPads, laptops and tablets you own and use. Do you know what percent of the poor populations of the earth wish they could have a device like this? Simply Living......how much of a hypocrite does that make us? Shouldn't we be hand written letters, reading paper books, paying bills with currency and buying things from the merchant face to face. Sitting around a fire telling stories instead of an on line forum about the newest OS download.
I think that the reality is that unless we all want to live like Daniel Suelho we're each going to be responsible for some amount of resource usage. The question is whether we do so mindfully. For me, having a device with which I can speak to anyone in the world, send and receive text communication from anyone connected to the internet, access a huge amount of the world's knowledge, store a collection of music that in generations past would've required a huge amount of shelves in my living room, and take high quality pictures and video and be able to store virtually limitless amounts of them and send them instantly to anyone, anywhere, makes my iPhone seem like an incredibly good bang for my hydrocarbon buck. I can't think of any other possession that I've ever had which provided so many different useful functions, all in a pocket sized gadget. If our home was burning down and I could only grab one thing, this would be that thing.
I think that the reality is that unless we all want to live like Daniel Suelho we're each going to be responsible for some amount of resource usage. The question is whether we do so mindfully. For me, having a device with which I can speak to anyone in the world, send and receive text communication from anyone connected to the internet, access a huge amount of the world's knowledge, store a collection of music that in generations past would've required a huge amount of shelves in my living room, and take high quality pictures and video and be able to store virtually limitless amounts of them and send them instantly to anyone, anywhere, makes my iPhone seem like an incredibly good bang for my hydrocarbon buck. I can't think of any other possession that I've ever had which provided so many different useful functions, all in a pocket sized gadget. If our home was burning down and I could only grab one thing, this would be that thing. I see it this way too, but I do really wish there wasn't quite the turnover. We actually have a device that's replaced a lot of the bulky wasteful electronic debris of the past, and instead of rejoicing, our society is desperate to make it into new electronic debris as quickly as possible, along with the charger, case and whatever other proprietary hardware it can encourage us to dump. I am very anxious about the idea that the little device that's replaced my brain and a room full of hard media and appliances is about as permanent and reliable as a pair of pantihose.
ApatheticNoMore
9-19-15, 2:40pm
The Earth is trying to rid itself of a perisite known as mankind and probably will some day reduce the population by a billion or two no matter if I recycle or not.
this is likely if we're just dealing with what will happen if present trends continue, but it's still immoral to watch a billion people die before their time (whether or not one is one of them). The moral choice would be: change the consumption patterns, change the economic system (I'm not proposing anything it particular just that the present setup must go!), change the government, and stop having so many darn kids so that the population can be reduced the right way, not by mass death. The Pope is right in other words (except on birth control! :))
That's just the way it is and no amount of conservation, Eco babble, green living or pointing fingers will change that you are equally responsible for someone else's suffering while you prosper. Doesn't matter if you own 182 things or 1820 things......you are culpable. So just try not to feel too good about yourself for your good works.
Well I don't subscribe to everything is all or nothing, so unless one is perfect nothing is worth doing. I do however think I subscribe to Jevon's paradox, which makes the problem systematic. But earlier I was pointing out that without devices NO life in civilization barely at all may be possible because employment isn't possible. That owning the devices may be a requirement of one's job. But even if not part of one's job so much of the social world is online now, job hunting, dating, activity groups etc.. I don't believe we should feel too bad about ourselves either. What should we feel about ourselves? Forgiving, self-loving, honest.
Logging on to this forum from the library Williamsmith? Oh it's totally cool if you are, it's just otherwise you too own an electronic device :)
IIRC, Pope Francis did counsel "Don't breed like rabbits" earlier this year.
Williamsmith
9-19-15, 5:58pm
this is likely if we're just dealing with what will happen if present trends continue, but it's still immoral to watch a billion people die before their time (whether or not one is one of them). The moral choice would be: change the consumption patterns, change the economic system (I'm not proposing anything it particular just that the present setup must go!), change the government, and stop having so many darn kids so that the population can be reduced the right way, not by mass death. The Pope is right in other words (except on birth control! :))
Well I don't subscribe to everything is all or nothing, so unless one is perfect nothing is worth doing. I do however think I subscribe to Jevon's paradox, which makes the problem systematic. But earlier I was pointing out that without devices NO life in civilization barely at all may be possible because employment isn't possible. That owning the devices may be a requirement of one's job. But even if not part of one's job so much of the social world is online now, job hunting, dating, activity groups etc.. I don't believe we should feel too bad about ourselves either. What should we feel about ourselves? Forgiving, self-loving, honest.
Logging on to this forum from the library Williamsmith? Oh it's totally cool if you are, it's just otherwise you too own an electronic device :)
Oh I definitely own an electronic device....or two or three or four what's the difference? I've owned 18 automobiles.....the gas guzzlers and the sippers......I have used most all the conveniences known to man. I was just pointing out that some people adopt the simple life based erroneously on the fallacy that they are contributing to the harmony of the world by consuming less and forming a smaller "footprint." The good news is if you can afford one of these devices then you have a government working for you to victimize others so that you can live well. That's the way it is economically speaking and so maybe tonight you should eat a pizza in honor of those who are starving.
ApatheticNoMore
9-19-15, 8:13pm
I was just pointing out that some people adopt the simple life based erroneously on the fallacy that they are contributing to the harmony of the world by consuming less and forming a smaller "footprint."
someone else will probably use the resources as per Jevon's paradox, there could be ways around it possibly, but that's public policy (how off topic is this conversation? iOS 9? :)) I think people resist as a form of personal resisting, whether or not it saves the world.
The good news is if you can afford one of these devices then you have a government working for you to victimize others so that you can live well. That's the way it is economically speaking and so maybe tonight you should eat a pizza in honor of those who are starving.
yes well there is very little I can do about that even if I wanted to. Not that apathy is the greatest thing since sliced bread but American society at present .... Protest wars? well I have a little, I don't think it matters. Some become war tax resisters I guess which is very noble, but even then the government can print quite a lot of money for it's wars.
iOS 9 is an upgrade, not a new device. In fact, one of the "selling points", if you will, is that this updates works with the same hardware on which the previous operating system worked. So no one has found out that using the latest and greatest Apple mobile OS has turned their iPhone/iPad into electronic flotsam. We can comment on the carbon burned by programmers as they commuted to work to write iOS 9 and on all the coal used by electric powerplants to power the servers that download iOS 9. But that's the same cradle-to-grave comparison anything -- phones, cars, wall ovens, newspapers, elections -- should receive.
And it may not be general knowledge, but right now about 40% of the adults on earth have smartphones. Industry experts expect that number to rise beyond 60% in the very near future. People in other countries are discovering in smartphones the same benefits we have discovered -- and have skipped landline phones and personal computers and moved straight to smartphones. When companies like Huawei and Xunrui can sell an Android smartphone for the equivalent of US$50-60, many people are going to be able to afford smartphones. Those phones may not be iPhones, but not all Toyotas are BMWs either. Having a smartphone no longer seems like a symbol of Western ostentation.
Back around the year 2000, when I was editing copy for on-line courses, I worked on a chapter on smart-phone devices, or PDAs. They were already all the rage in Asia and probably other places as well. We were a little behind the curve.
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