Article: Donald Trump Defends Muslim Ban as 'Common Sense'

[Ultralight]

Thoughts?

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-defends-muslim-ban-common-sense-n476086

[LDAHL]

Donald Trump would call for a ban on oxygen if he thought it would get him another five minutes of attention.

[Ultralight]

I am thinking of registering to vote and voting for Bernie in the primary and then Trump in the real election. haha

[rodeosweetheart]

I am thinking of registering to vote and voting for Bernie in the primary and then Trump in the real election. haha

It sounds like you think it is funny, the idea that Trump would be elected. Can you elaborate on why this is funny? I am not following.

[TVRodriguez]

Thoughts?


I was thinking this morning about this. Thinking of kristallnacht. Thinking of how, in the month or so before 9/11, I read that the Taliban were requiring Hindus to wear markers to identify them as non-muslims. Thinking how sad I am for Republicans, to have to have someone like this pretend to be standing up for "making America great," when he is the antithesis of so much of what actually makes America great.

ETA: I was also thinking of the Muslims I grew up with who are real Americans. More than I can say for that so-called man.

[Ultralight]

I'd be curious to see how this idea polls with Americans.

[kally]

This man is just vile, but what worries me is the number of his supporters.

[Williamsmith]

It's so funny it's tragic. The vacuum left by the vanishing middle class is being back filled by both the pacifist liberal left and the fascist ultra conservative right. It's a race to extinction. Trump is just betting there are more fascists than there are progressives. If the terrorists make a few more hits, and the economy flounders....we will be in Germany 1938.

[Ultralight]

It's so funny it's tragic. The vacuum left by the vanishing middle class is being back filled by both the pacifist liberal left and the fascist ultra conservative right. It's a race to extinction. Trump is just betting there are more fascists than there are progressives. If the terrorists make a few more hits, and the economy flounders....we will be in Germany 1938.

Hyperbolic, but not so hyperbolic as to not be truly frightening. sad-lol

[Rogar]

Fear mongering, plain and simple. Seeing as how he has maintained a lead as a candidate, it represents us poorly to the whole world.

[Ultralight]

Fear mongering, plain and simple. Seeing as how he has maintained a lead as a candidate, it represents us poorly to the whole world.

Poorly but accurately.

[bae]

Trump yesterday:

"We're losing a lot of people because of the Internet," Trump said. "We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people."

So, complain about him while you can....

[Ultralight]

Trump yesterday:

"We're losing a lot of people because of the Internet," Trump said. "We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people."

So, complain about him while you can....

!thumbsup!

[Williamsmith]

Trump thinks and speaks at about a fourth grade level. I wonder what Archie Bunker would have said about him. I miss "All In The Family".


http://youtu.be/7fqCS7Y_kME

[Ultralight]

Classic!

[CathyA]

I was watching the CBS news the other morning, and they had John Dickerson on. I've been trying to "categorize" the type of person that is so gung-ho for trump. Dickerson said it very diplomatically. He said "They tend to not hold college degrees". haha
You absolutely don't need a college degree to be smart........but you know what he really meant.

[Williamsmith]

If you want another laugh......click the YouTube link on Archie's thoughts on gun control.

[bae]

If you want another laugh......click the YouTube link on Archie's thoughts on gun control.

I would happily fly on Archie's Airline :-)

[Williamsmith]

I would happily fly on Archie's Airline :-)

I volunteer to pass out the handguns but I think it just might be unconstitutional to confiscate them at the end of the flight. Maybe Trump could start a handgun subsidy program for welfare recipients. They seem to need them the most.

[creaker]

I was watching the CBS news the other morning, and they had John Dickerson on. I've been trying to "categorize" the type of person that is so gung-ho for trump. Dickerson said it very diplomatically. He said "They tend to not hold college degrees". haha
You absolutely don't need a college degree to be smart........but you know what he really meant.

There are many folks who would like to see or participate in a good lynching, but would never initiate one - and then along comes the initiator.

[IshbelRobertson]

Boris Johnson's riposte re Mr Trump's comments about London no-go areas

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson/12039931/Boris-Johnson-The-only-reason-I-wouldnt-visit-some-parts-of-New-York-is-the-real-risk-of-meeting-Donald-Trump.html

[gimmethesimplelife]

I am just very repulsed by Trump's not wanting to let Muslims in period. Together with wanting to create a Muslim specific database I see too much similarity to Germany in the late 30's. I have always felt some guilt about my Austrian heritage due to Austria's role in the Holocaust so such anti Muslim statements I am very hypersensitive to. Rob

[gimmethesimplelife]

Came back to ad that being gay, had I lived in the Europe of that era I might well have been rounded up for a one way trip on one of the trains. Beyond that, I feel for my Mother who was born in Salzburg in 1942. Her first memory is a night Salzburg was being bombed by the Allied Forces and people screaming at her because she wasn't moving fast enough to the bomb shelter. It's a bit of a leap from Trump's comments to the above situations....but Hitler proved this can start with these types of comments from leaders. As my family in Austria tells me....have a bag packed, just in case. Interestingly enough, after Paris they have taken this advice themselves. I sincerely hope Trump does not get the GOP nomination, and I have respect for the Republicans that speak out against his latest remarks. Rob

[gimmethesimplelife]

I was watching the CBS news the other morning, and they had John Dickerson on. I've been trying to "categorize" the type of person that is so gung-ho for trump. Dickerson said it very diplomatically. He said "They tend to not hold college degrees". haha
You absolutely don't need a college degree to be smart........but you know what he really meant.Agreed 100 percent and yes indeed I do get it. Rob

[Williamsmith]

I don't think Trump will be permitted to get the nomination by the established hierarchy of the Republican machine even though they realize that they need his followers to get the Presidency. He just will not do their dirty work once he gets in because he doesn't need or want their money. So they will divide the votes, allow him to take his people with him to an Indipendent ticket and hand Hillary the victory. Four more years of the same stupid Wall Street backed crap and special interest ass kissing.

[Rogar]

So they will divide the votes, allow him to take his people with him to an Indipendent ticket and hand Hillary the victory. Four more years of the same stupid Wall Street backed crap and special interest ass kissing.

I find this as a better alternative to any of the republican candidates, but that could turn into a long discussion. They have missed a huge opportunity to take control by not coming up with a decent common sense alternative. I actually get the impression from their current offerings that their party is falling apart. I suspect it will come down to Cruz or Rubio. Cruz has offered a more politically correct restriction on immigration, but in substance may be similar.

"...I've introduced legislation that would suspend for three years refugees from countries where ISIS or Al Qaida control a substantial amount of territory,"

Which would probably include Syria, Yemen, Libya, Somalia, and Iraq. But not Pakistan where the San Bernardino terrorists came from.

[Ultralight]

Trump is really what Merka needs.

[rodeosweetheart]

Trump is really what Merka needs.

Why do you make this statement, UA? Folks here are discussing Kristallnacht and I think they are right. So why do you make this statement, that you want this man to be our (those of us who are Americans, I know there are many here who are not) president, this man who seems to have very frightening ideas about hurting your fellow Americans?

What is your motivation, are you just baiting, just being a provocateur?

Do you hate the country you live in so much that you want it to self-destruct?

Do you hate your fellow Americans so much that you want them to be in concentration camps? Or dead on foreign soils?

Is your contemptuous "Merka" meant to include only some of your fellow Americans? Do you want them punished, as you indicated in an earlier thread?

Do you want all Americans punished, or just those who follow Donald Trump? But you say you are going to vote for Donald Trump. Why?

I am very curious about your motivation with these statements that you make.

Thanks for any enlightenment you can give me about why you make these statements.

[Alan]

I am just very repulsed by Trump's not wanting to let Muslims in period. Together with wanting to create a Muslim specific database I see to much similarity to Germany in the late 30's. I have always felt some guilt about my Austrian heritage due to Austria's role in the Holocaust so such anti Muslim statements I am very hypersensitive to. Rob
You don't have to go back to the 30's to see this sort of thing, FDR did it in the 40's against the Japanese, Germans and Italians. It's interesting that in many circles he is remembered as one of our top 5 Presidents.

[TVRodriguez]

You don't have to go back to the 30's to see this sort of thing, FDR did it in the 40's against the Japanese, Germans and Italians. It's interesting that in many circles he is remembered as one of our top 5 Presidents.

I agree. I heard an interview Trump did with Chris Cuomo where the internment camps were mentioned, and Trump said, "What FDR did was worse." So his suggestions are what, merely not as awful as one of the most shameful chapters in our nation's history? That's supposed to be okay?

[LDAHL]

I have always felt some guilt about my Austrian heritage due to Austria's role in the Holocaust so such anti Muslim statements I am very hypersensitive to. Rob

What possible reason could you have to be guilty about events that happened in a country you never lived in before you were born?

[Ultralight]

What possible reason could you have to be guilty about events that happened in a country you never lived in before you were born?

I agree. It had nothing to do with you.

I am as liberal as a person can be but I don't feel guilty about things that I did not do.

[Alan]

So his suggestions are what, merely not as awful as one of the most shameful chapters in our nation's history? That's supposed to be okay?Nope, just providing perspective.

[Rogar]

I agree. I heard an interview Trump did with Chris Cuomo where the internment camps were mentioned, and Trump said, "What FDR did was worse." So his suggestions are what, merely not as awful as one of the most shameful chapters in our nation's history? That's supposed to be okay?

I think Andrew Jackson's Indian removal policy and the Trail of Tears march where 10,000 Native Americans died of starvation, exposure, and disease might be up there in our shameful presidential chapters.

[IshbelRobertson]

Call to ban Mr Trump from the UK


http://news.sky.com/story/1602440/150000-sign-ban-trump-from-uk-petition

[Williamsmith]

What's so bad about banning an entire religious group from entering your country? Seems like a nice first step. The you take the 5 to 12 million Muslims that are in country already, round them up into internment camps or deport them. Imagine the jobs that could be created. Nice little uniforms for the new employees and commissions for reaching quotas. Or is that bounties. All those homes that they lived in could be repurposed for productive citizens or government buildings.

Then as things get nice and cozy, concentrate on the domestic terrorists, you know the ones born right here. A drone strike in Utah or Idaho every once in awhile keeps the natives hunkered down. All the sudden there isn't much protesting going on. Lots of people in parades chanting something like, "United States of Trump". Everybody with a portrait of The Donald in their living room.

Seems like a great great gig to me.

[Gregg]

I think Andrew Jackson's Indian removal policy and the Trail of Tears march where 10,000 Native Americans died of starvation, exposure, and disease might be up there in our shameful presidential chapters.

Agreed. Maybe we can put Donald's portrait on the $10 bill as a reminder of current shame.

[LDAHL]

Agreed. Maybe we can put Donald's portrait on the $10 bill as a reminder of current shame.

The Treasury Department has reserved that slot for a yet-to-be-named woman.

My feeling is that by the time we finish the South Carolina primary, Mr. Trump will be out of the running. You can only get so far thumbing your nose at political correctness and saying outrageous things to generate hysterics in the media.

[catherine]

The Treasury Department has reserved that slot for a yet-to-be-named woman.


And, if the Treasury Department takes the advice of the Miss America 2nd runner up, that woman will be Ellen DeGeneres. (Her judges' question was "which woman should be chosen to be on the $10 bill?")

Maybe Miss Colorado can be Donald Trump's running mate. True, he owned Miss Universe, but he's a bipartisan guy.

[Gregg]

The Treasury Department has reserved that slot for a yet-to-be-named woman.

My feeling is that by the time we finish the South Carolina primary, Mr. Trump will be out of the running. You can only get so far thumbing your nose at political correctness and saying outrageous things to generate hysterics in the media.

We could always transfer Ms. Anthony from pocket change to the $10 and put Donald on the coin that's useless except at car washes. It would be sad to let a good shame go to waste. ;) (And I'm in hopeful agreement about the future narrowing of the Rep field.)

[LDAHL]

Unfortunately I have a few relatives who are very anti Semitic and think Hitler had the right idea. Not only that but I no longer speak to two of them after their reaction to my then so to come marriage to another man. I don't appreciate being told I deserve the camps for this. Austria is a beautiful and prosperous country with social welfare for all, but right under the pretty surface there is darkness and rot. I'm just glad my younger relatives don't believe in the above. Rob

I can understand that, but I don't see the need to feel personal guilt just because you share some DNA. If Hitler was my grandfather and Stalin and Mao were my uncles, I still wouldn't see the need to feel guilt for any of their depravity. That may be why I find the whole idea of identity politics so ridiculous.

[creaker]

You don't have to go back to the 30's to see this sort of thing, FDR did it in the 40's against the Japanese, Germans and Italians. It's interesting that in many circles he is remembered as one of our top 5 Presidents.

We do go back around and reevaluate - Woodrow Wilson is looking a lot more tarnished by the facts these days. But it's a good example of how extremism breeds extremism.

[TVRodriguez]

The thought I had when I heard Trump make his "not as bad as internment camps" comment was that he clearly knows that his suggestions are bad. Otherwise, why would he use the comparative word "worse"? You don't compare good to "worse"?