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Ultralight
1-14-16, 2:48pm
Should Nanny G. warn people about the soda pop?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/could-sugar-warning-labels-on-soda-help-kids-avoid-obesity-diabetes/
ToomuchStuff
1-14-16, 2:53pm
At what point, does trying to think for the slowest people, cause others to stop thinking for themselves and cause more dumb people?
ApatheticNoMore
1-14-16, 2:56pm
The type of person I imagine reading the labels:
"annoying, the soda now says it's killing me" [starts second pack of cigarettes for the day ...]
as in yea, good luck, you can lead a horse to water but you can't stop it from committing suicide by the installment plan if that's what it wants to do. And how to get people to stop wanting to destroy themselves is not something I have figured out (wish I could, I could help people if I could). Although reading the article of course on kids one might have some influence ...
Ultralight
1-14-16, 2:58pm
The type of person I imagine reading the labels:
"annoying, the soda now says it's killing me" [starts second pack of cigarettes for the day ...]
as in yea, good luck, you can lead a horse to water but you can't stop it from committing suicide by the installment plan if that's what it wants to do.
I think they should turn soda into a multi-vitamin and make it taste bad.
Kale should be sold with a warning label about how it interacts with Coumadin.
Ultralight
1-14-16, 3:07pm
Kale should be sold with a warning label about how it interacts with Coumadin.
No, kale should be sold with a warning label that says: "Tastes horrible!"
Who gets to decide which foods are "dangerous?" And for whom? I'm all for nutrition labeling, and that's it. The government can skip pushing food pyramids, "my plates," and other wrong-headed, lobbyist-approved agendas, IMO.
Ultralight
1-14-16, 3:34pm
Who gets to decide which foods are "dangerous?" And for whom? I'm all for nutrition labeling, and that's it. The government can skip pushing food pyramids, "my plates," and other wrong-headed, lobbyist-approved agendas, IMO.
Should no one decide which foods are dangerous?
Should no one decide which foods are dangerous?
If the rat dies, it's dangerous.
If the rat get's chubby, leave it to adults' discretion.
Ultralight
1-14-16, 3:57pm
If the rat dies, it's dangerous.
If the rat get's chubby, leave it to adults' discretion.
Put chubby rat pictures on all junk food? :cool:
One problem with this is the soda has warning labels - and everything else loaded with sugar (like juice, cereal, etc) does not - which makes the other stuff look "safe" by exclusion.
As far as the new dietary considerations, sugar lobbyists must have been getting stingy with the money in Washington - or someone has pulled out a bigger bankroll.
Ultralight
1-14-16, 4:26pm
Label it all.
I say no. First of all, sugar is ubiquitous. What else do you label? Stove Top stuffing? Because sugar is in that, too. (edited: Oops, just saw creaker has the same point)
Plus, everyone knows that sugar is not the best thing for you. It took years to cut through tobacco industry propaganda, but we don't have that with sugar. There are a lot of nutritionists who talk about the role of inflammation, and how sugar causes it and how it, in turn causes a lot of other diseases, but again, I think people generally know that we eat too much sugar, and many people know and don't care.
So, I say, in this case, NannyG, find another project to work on.
Ultralight
1-14-16, 4:58pm
"This edible food-like substance contains sugar, which is known to cause obesity and diabetes."
Refined carbohydrates, like flour products, are instantly converted by the amylase in your saliva into glucose. Maybe we should have warning labels on those, too. Where does it end? The best solution is to foster critical thinking and let citizens decide for themselves and their families which foods are best for them.
Ultralight
1-14-16, 5:16pm
Why not just label everything?
Williamsmith
1-14-16, 5:35pm
Putting warning labels on sugar laden substances is like the local heroin dealer handing you your fix and saying, "Hey bro, This shit will kill you."
ToomuchStuff
1-14-16, 6:47pm
Why not just label everything?
Going to need a large magnifying glass. (labeling the labels is a never ending process)
It seems like it would open a whole Pandora's box of labeling issues. Like would candy bars also have to have a warning or maybe Doritos and Kentucky fried chicken.
Chicken lady
1-14-16, 7:14pm
Wait a minute! There's sugar in my candy bar?!:0!
How about we just tax it and earmark the money for diabetes treatment or research.
http://www.wired.com/2015/07/mexicos-soda-tax-working-us-learn/
gimmethesimplelife
1-15-16, 2:54am
I'm going to be a dissenter here and say that yes, sodas should be labelled in some way as bad for your health. Most soda in the US is sweetened with high fructose corn syrup.....which builds up fat in your liver and over time with enough consumption can lead to fatty liver. Not good. I don't honestly know if labelling sodas would help but I'd love to have the public more aware of the risks associated with fatty liver disease. And not to harp on my love of Mexico, but......sodas are taxed extra there now and I believe are labelled too (not 100 percent sure of the labelling in Mexico though)......it will be interesting to see if this reduces soda consumption in Mexico or not, especially since per capita more soda is drunk in Mexico than the US. Rob
I am tired of warnings. I think it makes us all look like we have no idea about anything. I am always amazed with all the info out there that there is still a need to tell people IF you consume too much of this that or the other, this will happen. IF you smoke, chew this will happen. My biggest one is all the warnings, alerts and such with weather. ADVISORY, 1/2 inch of snow tonight, Driving will be dangerous....Really what is left if we have to be told about a 1/2 inch of snow.
Williamsmith
1-15-16, 9:49am
How about a tax based on your obesity? Ruins the whole meaning of fat and happy!
iris lilies
1-15-16, 10:52am
I am tired of warnings. I think it makes us all look like we have no idea about anything. I am always amazed with all the info out there that there is still a need to tell people IF you consume too much of this that or the other, this will happen. IF you smoke, chew this will happen. My biggest one is all the warnings, alerts and such with weather. ADVISORY, 1/2 inch of snow tonight, Driving will be dangerous....Really what is left if we have to be told about a 1/2 inch of snow.yes, sing it sister!
IshbelRobertson
1-15-16, 11:15am
Amen!
If we lived in a sane world, marijuana would be legal and Coca-Cola would be illegal. (Assuming that something has to be illegal.)
The most exquisitely hilarious labels I have seen are at the Highway Maintenance Facility of the local government I work for. Every dump truck has a label (with cautionary illustration) prohibiting standing under the dump body as it is lowered. Dust filter masks do not provide oxygen. Keep hands (and feet!) out of brush chipper. Grease solvents are not to be taken internally.
I can understand that lawyers need to make a living, but isn't there a point where we should simply let natural selection do it's job?
If we lived in a sane world, marijuana would be legal and Coca-Cola would be illegal. (Assuming that something has to be illegal.)
That reminds me; I need to go to my cannabis retailer for some trim (with plans to make salve). It's a little saner here on the Left Coast. I hope I live long enough to see all the psychedelics legalized, too.
soft drinks should be left alone if people only had a few a week. But I think it is the 10 a day habit that is pretty brutal on the body.
I can understand that lawyers need to make a living, but isn't there a point where we should simply let natural selection do it's job?
My new structural firefighting boots came with a 96 page manual that had one page on leather care, and 90+ pages restating "running into burning buildings is possibly dangerous, these boots will not protect you from all dangers, caution: exposure to atomic blasts will cause foot damage, yada yada yada".
Kale should be sold with a warning label about how it interacts with Coumadin.
+1, LOL and all that. I was thinking the same thing about grapefruit juice and statins.
I can understand that lawyers need to make a living, but isn't there a point where we should simply let natural selection do it's job?
In a perfect world.
catherine
1-15-16, 11:27pm
soft drinks should be left alone if people only had a few a week. But I think it is the 10 a day habit that is pretty brutal on the body.
My SIL is one of those. She is addicted to fountain drinks--specifically Coke (not sure if it's diet Coke or not). She carries it around with her all day. When I've been with her in a restaurant, she gets refill after refill. I guess we all have our vices.
LDAHL "I can understand that lawyers need to make a living, but isn't there a point where we should simply let natural selection do it's job?"
Our saying is : Oh, another one that would be Dead in the wild.
The day I left my folks house in 1980 my pop habit began. We had a pop once a week if that growing up. The day I was on my own pop, Coke became my Look I can do what I want now. Guess that was better then Jim or Jack. When I was about 30 a Dentist said I was ruining my teeth, at 33 I had lumps in my breast. AT that given moment in time the line of thought was caffeine caused fibrous cysts. I tried the diet coke then went cold turkey from a two liter a day habit. Now maybe one a week if that. Looking back I wish I never consumed that much, but hind sight is 20/20.
A warning label would have done nothing for me when I was young and foolish.
Warning labels are merely annoying when the information is factual. When the government gets it wrong, the warning labels threaten health. Witness all the products labeled "heart healthy" in line with government guidelines, that substitute sugar for fat as if sugar were a health-promoting substance. Nutrition science is often an oxymoron, due to special interests, corruption, flawed or manipulated studies, and politics.
We may be witnessing the confluence of two inherent components of the human condition: incompetence and self-interest. Nutrition has had many colossal and costly failures. The list of dietary components claimed to reduce cardiovascular disease (CVD), prevent cognitive decline, and/or fight cancer that were later refuted via clinical trials is extensive. And while the self-correcting nature of science necessitates failure, the vast majority of nutrition’s failures were engendered by a complete lack of familiarity with the scientific method.--Edward Archer, writing an opinion in The Scientist
My new structural firefighting boots came with a 96 page manual that had one page on leather care, and 90+ pages restating "running into burning buildings is possibly dangerous, these boots will not protect you from all dangers, caution: exposure to atomic blasts will cause foot damage, yada yada yada".
Well, if you trod upon an H Bomb in the course of your duties, you'll just have to sue someone else.
I think the government should actively try to promote general good health, and discourage bad health. Very legitimate role of government. If there were ways to increase brain health in the population, let's do it. Heads should be on sticks in Flint.
you can lead a horse to water but you can't stop it from committing suicide by the installment plan . Awesome!
The other problem with warning labels is that marketing people aren't stupid. If "Warning, Contains Sugar which may [cause you to commit suicide by the installment plan - again, awesome, ANM]" becomes mandated, we will have that much more other nonsense to wade through.
On Kale: SUGAR FREE! DAIRY FREE! GLUTEN FREE!
(How many 'gluten free' labels have you seen lately on things that obviously have no gluten in them? Not to mention brilliant things like a warning to beware, a jar of peanuts may contain peanuts?)
How about saving time and expense with a universal warning label?
CAUTION: You are going to die. Diet and exercise cannot save you. Government regulation cannot save you. Technology cannot save you. Medicine cannot save you. At best, they can postpone the inevitable. Time spent fretting, lecturing, litigating and lobbying about it subtracts on an hour for hour basis the time available for living your life.
Ultralight
1-21-16, 4:08pm
How about saving time and expense with a universal warning label?
CAUTION: You are going to die. Diet and exercise cannot save you. Government regulation cannot save you. Technology cannot save you. Medicine cannot save you. At best, they can postpone the inevitable. Time spent fretting, lecturing, litigating and lobbying about it subtracts on an hour for hour basis the time available for living your life.
How about this amendment?
CAUTION: You are going to die. This product likely expedites death. Also note: Diet and exercise cannot save you. Government regulation cannot save you. Technology cannot save you. Medicine cannot save you. At best, they can postpone the inevitable. Time spent fretting, lecturing, litigating and lobbying about it subtracts on an hour for hour basis the time available for living your life.
How about saving time and expense with a universal warning label?
CAUTION: You are going to die. Diet and exercise cannot save you. Government regulation cannot save you. Technology cannot save you. Medicine cannot save you. At best, they can postpone the inevitable. Time spent fretting, lecturing, litigating and lobbying about it subtracts on an hour for hour basis the time available for living your life.
Perfect.
Ultralight
1-21-16, 5:06pm
How about saving time and expense with a universal warning label?
CAUTION: You are going to die. Diet and exercise cannot save you. Government regulation cannot save you. Technology cannot save you. Medicine cannot save you. At best, they can postpone the inevitable. Time spent fretting, lecturing, litigating and lobbying about it subtracts on an hour for hour basis the time available for living your life.
Would you advocate this being the only label for prescription drugs?
Would you advocate this being the only label for prescription drugs?
I might add:
Your results may vary unfairly. Refer to your genome for specific terms and conditions.
UL, you have to admit the current drug warning legislation is ... amusing, but really, just more useless clutter.
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- Ask your doctor if Curitall is right for you! >8)
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