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Ultralight
1-27-16, 4:42pm
Hey, after Iowa will any Dems drop out?
I am thinking of registering to vote for Sanders in the Ohio primary (which will be the only vote I cast). But I don't want to register if it is highly likely he'll drop out by the time Ohio's primary happens.
Ohio's primary is on March 15th. Bernie will be in it till the bitter end so you should register now.
Ultralight
1-27-16, 5:08pm
Ohio's primary is on March 15th. Bernie will be in it till the bitter end so you should register now.
Why do I get the feeling you're tricking me? haha
I am thinking of registering to vote for Sanders in the Ohio primary (which will be the only vote I cast). But I don't want to register if it is highly likely he'll drop out by the time Ohio's primary happens.
What's the harm in registering?
Ultralight
1-27-16, 5:15pm
What's the harm in registering?
Wasting that time and jury duty.
Wasting that time and jury duty.
Jury duty lists typically are sourced from a wide range of information. Not registering to vote won't save you.
Jury duty lists typically are sourced from a wide range of information. Not registering to vote won't save you.
And besides, jury duty is actually an interesting experience. At least IMHO.
Ohio's primary is on March 15th. Bernie will be in it till the bitter end so you should register now.
And if/when Hillary loses bitter won't even begin to describe her feelings about the end of her political career.
Williamsmith
1-27-16, 6:04pm
Register to vote......don't worry you will never make it past jury selection, I would strike you from the list after the first couple questions.
Ultralight
1-27-16, 6:18pm
Register to vote......don't worry you will never make it past jury selection, I would strike you from the list after the first couple questions.
Which questions would those be?
ApatheticNoMore
1-27-16, 6:46pm
I've had hesitations about serving jury, but then you do notice the idiots in the jury room, and it raises one's self esteem. If they can do this, I can do this! :) Of course the reality of jury duty around here is almost no one even seems to make it to jury selection. I think they really like people who are retired or have infinite employer paid time. So if you don't have those, you might not make jury. It's decades of having jury duty and only once ever getting a back up juror who didn't serve that make one doubt one's ability to do it, afterall one never actually does it. But could happen someday.
The problem with those idiots in the jury room is that they end up being the people you serve on a jury with. One of the juries I was on we had three who,we're like 'well, he probably didn't do this crime (it was obvious he hadn't) but he looks guilty of something.... It took me and two other people 45 minutes to make them understand that we weren't there to convict him of just something, but only of the crime at hand that he'd been charged with.
Why do I get the feeling you're tricking me? haha
I don't have a clue.
Honestly, the Ohio primary is just 6 weeks or so away, O'Malley may indeed be out of the running by that time but Bernie should be in the mix well past the Ohio Primary. If you want to vote for him as the Democratic nominee that is your one chance to do something meaningful.
ApatheticNoMore
1-27-16, 8:12pm
I suspect Sanders will be in until at least Super Tuesday. O'Malley might drop out, but he was probably really running for 2020 or 2024 anyway, he's getting his name out there ... well a tiny bit ...
Williamsmith
1-27-16, 8:17pm
Which questions would those be?
Do you generally believe a police officer is more likely or less likely to tell the truth than a witness who is not a police officer? Answer. Please explain why.
Would you consider the testimony of a police officer to have more or less weight simply on the basis of his/her being a police officer?
Would you have a difficult time accepting the law as it is explained to you by the judge regardless of your own convictions of what the law is or how it should be applied?
And two potential killers....what kind of work do you do? What non political organizations do you belong to?
freshstart
1-27-16, 10:26pm
I don't have a clue.
If you want to vote for him as the Democratic nominee that is your one chance to do something meaningful.
Please this. Also, I think in NY they pull from DMV records for jury duty. I want to be on a jury but every time I get called I have to stay the whole week for jury selection only to get called close to the end, they ask me what I do and both sides are jumping all over the place to object to me. That one question and answering "nurse" has gotten me the boot 3 times so far. My lawyer friends say nurses are the worst because they are either overly sympathetic to the underdog or value rules, regulations and consequences too much. Meh, I got paid to read in the courtroom for a week. But I would like to actually serve on one someday.
Williamsmith
1-27-16, 10:54pm
Most people who actually serve on a jury don't want to return. Usually they are disappointed at how little of the truth is actually presented at the trial and they are always wishing that more evidence was available to hear. Still the responsibility of incarcerating a peer or fellow citizen weighs heavy on some people. I will never be allowed to serve on a jury nor would I want to. But I do want to vote.
iris lilies
1-27-16, 11:04pm
We are busy jurors in St. Louis. Many of the people we know have been on murder juries, as has DH. I was on a drug charge jury as well as two other juries. We get called often.
DH served on Gran Jury which had him there 2 or 3 times a week for full days for 3 months. That's brutal, and they like retired people for that job.Guns and drugs were most of the cases. Wednesday was rape and abuse cases.
gimmethesimplelife
1-28-16, 1:20am
Do you generally believe a police officer is more likely or less likely to tell the truth than a witness who is not a police officer? Answer. Please explain why.
Would you consider the testimony of a police officer to have more or less weight simply on the basis of his/her being a police officer?
Would you have a difficult time accepting the law as it is explained to you by the judge regardless of your own convictions of what the law is or how it should be applied?
And two potential killers....what kind of work do you do? What non political organizations do you belong to?I would question anything a police officer said in court as I've learned not to trust them. Before you arrived here as a regular poster we had some long police brutality threads in which I explained my anti cop stance at length....which I will spare one and all from here. Suffice it to say that before I could trust a cop I'd need video to back up any claims and I'd need the chance to use anything they say against themselves. Rob
Williamsmith
1-28-16, 4:40am
I would question anything a police officer said in court as I've learned not to trust them. Before you arrived here as a regular poster we had some long police brutality threads in which I explained my anti cop stance at length....which I will spare one and all from here. Suffice it to say that before I could trust a cop I'd need video to back up any claims and I'd need the chance to use anything they say against themselves. Rob
I understand this but you understand that you stand zero chance of serving on a jury and rightfully so. I worked in what most people would consider rural policing in areas between two large cities. Most city dwellers I arrested had previous convictions for resisting arrest. It was SOP in the city to protect officers from the claims of abuse, the offender was charged with resisting arrest thus explaining the lumps on his head or the blood coming out of his nose, etc.
I can only speak for myself. I Got no pleasure from lumping somebody up. We had no cell to hide such a person as anyone arrested was taken within six hours before a district justice and then to the Sheriffs custody in jail. My reputation with the court was and still is remarkable. But I also worked with inner city police departments and there was a certain respect that was garnered from the population by liberal use of force.
Ultralight
1-28-16, 7:52am
Do you generally believe a police officer is more likely or less likely to tell the truth than a witness who is not a police officer? Answer. Please explain why.
More or less likely? Neither. Cops are people too.
Would you consider the testimony of a police officer to have more or less weight simply on the basis of his/her being a police officer? I'd consider it the same.
Would you have a difficult time accepting the law as it is explained to you by the judge regardless of your own convictions of what the law is or how it should be applied? No, I understand the cognitive dissonance involved.
And two potential killers....what kind of work do you do? What non political organizations do you belong to?
Boring, pointless work. And I am involved in the atheist community and in the simple living community.
Williamsmith
1-28-16, 10:04am
Most people think if they answer the way you did the first two questions ....showing no particular tendency either way....that it would increase the likelihood of surviving the cut, when actually the prosecution is looking for someone who respects and trusts police officers and would in theory give them the benefit of the doubt. Remember it is not proof beyond all doubt.......but proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
But too strong an answer would get them cut by the defense. Most people answer it the way you did because they do not want to be perceived as biased. So the most revealing aspect of the questioning is an opinion of whether the respondent is being truthful or not.
Your third answer would get you cut without doubt. The prosecution wants to avoid highly educated people who have studied fringe ideas, may be out of the mainstream and use confusing or uncommon language to explain perceptions. The use of the words...."cognitive dissonance" to show your deep understanding of the nuances of the question instead of just answering with , "No" signify a tendency to over anaylize facts and circumstances.
If you weren't gone by then, you last two answers would seal the deal. Jury duty is often boring. I don't want someone who probably practices escapism at work. I want someone who can focus on seemingly mundane topics for long periods of time.
An atheist......is someone who is an unknown. It would present an unknown variable on the makeup and chemistry of the jury. Gone.
Ultralight
1-28-16, 10:13am
Most people think if they answer the way you did the first two questions ....showing no particular tendency either way....that it would increase the likelihood of surviving the cut, when actually the prosecution is looking for someone who respects and trusts police officers and would in theory give them the benefit of the doubt. Remember it is not proof beyond all doubt.......but proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
But too strong an answer would get them cut by the defense. Most people answer it the way you did because they do not want to be perceived as biased. So the most revealing aspect of the questioning is an opinion of whether the respondent is being truthful or not.
Your third answer would get you cut without doubt. The prosecution wants to avoid highly educated people who have studied fringe ideas, may be out of the mainstream and use confusing or uncommon language to explain perceptions. The use of the words...."cognitive dissonance" to show your deep understanding of the nuances of the question instead of just answering with , "No" signify a tendency to over anaylize facts and circumstances.
If you weren't gone by then, you last two answers would seal the deal. Jury duty is often boring. I don't want someone who probably practices escapism at work. I want someone who can focus on seemingly mundane topics for long periods of time.
An atheist......is someone who is an unknown. It would present an unknown variable on the makeup and chemistry of the jury. Gone.
Wow.
Most people think if they answer the way you did the first two questions ....showing no particular tendency either way....that it would increase the likelihood of surviving the cut, when actually the prosecution is looking for someone who respects and trusts police officers and would in theory give them the benefit of the doubt. Remember it is not proof beyond all doubt.......but proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
But too strong an answer would get them cut by the defense. Most people answer it the way you did because they do not want to be perceived as biased. So the most revealing aspect of the questioning is an opinion of whether the respondent is being truthful or not.
Your third answer would get you cut without doubt. The prosecution wants to avoid highly educated people who have studied fringe ideas, may be out of the mainstream and use confusing or uncommon language to explain perceptions. The use of the words...."cognitive dissonance" to show your deep understanding of the nuances of the question instead of just answering with , "No" signify a tendency to over anaylize facts and circumstances.
If you weren't gone by then, you last two answers would seal the deal. Jury duty is often boring. I don't want someone who probably practices escapism at work. I want someone who can focus on seemingly mundane topics for long periods of time.
An atheist......is someone who is an unknown. It would present an unknown variable on the makeup and chemistry of the jury. Gone.
Fascinating. I have never given the selection process a lot of thought since my calls to serve have mostly been in cases that ended in plea bargains well before I had to drive to the courthouse. Thanks for the insight!
ApatheticNoMore
1-28-16, 11:19am
I'd answer the first two I'd give it equal weight. And the 3rd what to answer? See there are times and they may be rare, it's not something I'd do without very careful consideration, that I would nullify. I also, of course, couldn't death penalty convict, but such cases are rare.
If you weren't gone by then, you last two answers would seal the deal. Jury duty is often boring. I don't want someone who probably practices escapism at work. I want someone who can focus on seemingly mundane topics for long periods of time.
this just makes no sense and is an incredibly poor analogy. I would question the understanding of anything of someone who makes such an analogy. The average trial that someone with minimal employer paid time is likely to serve on lasts what a week or two? Almost ANYONE can concentrate on mundane stuff that is new to them (and they have never been on this trial before) for a week or two. In fact however boring the trial may seem the fact that it is new to them makes it non-mundane. Even the most mundane job has some interest for a 1-3 months or so maybe. It's just having to do the same mundane things time out of mind, without limit, with no end in sight, without hope sometimes even, that drives people to distraction.
Who have I sign get on a trial though? Sigh ....
the guy who protests ....
gays.
Miss Cellane
1-28-16, 12:27pm
The three times I've been called for jury duty, I was rejected twice. My best guess is that when asked if I know any lawyers, my answer is that my brother is a lawyer. That has always started a chain of very pointed questions.
And I guess I came across as meek and mild-mannered, because one question I got asked was if my opinion of what happened and who was guilty/not guilty was different from the rest of the jury, would I be able to speak up and argue my point? The implication being that I wasn't able to. The judge got a chuckle out of my response, "I grew up with five brothers. I've spent my life speaking up and arguing for my point!" My family and friends accused me of false pretenses in the courtroom, because they know me as quite an out-spoken, opinionated person.
The one time I was picked for a jury, the staff in the jury pool waiting room had told us that there were a couple of judges who were getting upset with the length of time it was taking to pick juries for a couple of cases (county court, so nothing really serious was being tried), and the judges were pushing to get the juries picked and the trials held. As a result, more people than usual were being picked, and fewer rejected. So I got on a jury.
Showed up on the appointed day, spent 6 hours in the jury waiting room with 5 other people, and got sent home. The judge was very nice and came to the jury room to explain that a plea bargain had been made and our services weren't needed for a trial. The judge's manner and the fact that he took the time to come and talk to us impressed me favorably.
So I have yet to actually be a juror, and I suspect I won't get picked again. Too educated, related to a lawyer, and when I was asked if I thought a police officer was more trustworthy than a private citizen my answer was that it depended on the circumstances.
Ultralight
1-28-16, 12:30pm
It is so rigged!
iris lilies
1-28-16, 12:40pm
It is so rigged!
The legal system is an institution made by imperfect humans. I'm not sure what you expect, but since you cant even be bothered to register to vote to participate in society, I Cannot imagine that you could provide realistic improvements.
But that said, Its best to avoid the legal system at all costs if one can whether perp or victim. If one is unfortunate enough to be sucked into it, its a tough ride.
Ultralight
1-28-16, 12:44pm
The legal system is an institution made by imperfect humans. I'm not sure what you expect, but since you cant even be bothered to register to vote to participate in society, I Cannot imagine that you could provide realistic improvements.
But that said, Its best to avoid the legal system at all costs if one can whether perp or victim. If one is unfortunate enough to be sucked into it, its a tough ride.
I voted steady from 1998 through 2012. But I have never seen "realistic improvements" as a result of it.
So like a dog whose master pretends to throw the stick during fetch, I stopped running after the stick.
Some years back here, they put me on a jury involving what looked like domestic violence and/or self-defense. Even though during jury selection it came out that:
a) My wife was the head of the county bar association
b) I had immediate family members who had experienced domestic violence
c) I had spent 15 years working with domestic violence victims, teaching them self defense and helping them escape their circumstances
d) I had been involved in use-of-force situations before, personally
e) I am not-quite-a-pacifist, but generally unwilling to use force
f) I have an engineering/science brain
I was frankly surprised, I thought they'd kick me off during the first couple rounds of questions.
The last two times I have been called for jury duty for criminal cases, they booted me pretty quickly, as I now know nearly every officer in our sheriff's department and work closely with them. I also know the county prosecutor and several of his minions quite well, and most of the criminal defense attorneys in the county. When they start asking the "who do you know involved in this case" questions, they point at the door.
I've managed to serve on two juries for criminal trials, both of which reached verdicts. The second trial about the only question that was asked of any of the jurors was whether we had served and reached a verdict before. Those of us who answered yes, including a cop, stayed on, and those who answered no were mostly eliminated.
rodeosweetheart
1-29-16, 7:57am
Maybe it depends on where you serve on the jury. Both my husband and I served on juries in South Carolina. The pool included a range of folks from doctors and lawyers, PhDs, food workers, home makers, real estate agents, retired cops. Nobody was excused for anything except things like health issues and little kids at home. We were asked if we knew the defendants or their families which was confusing since there are 3 or 4 family names that show up over and over and one doctor said I treat hundreds off x's, ye's, and z's )family names) and judge said well, will it keep you from an impartial verdict and she was not excused.
Then they chose numbers randomly from the pool.
I was on a week long jury trial. I guess I am pretty mild mannered looking, middle aged woman with silver hair who works with kids. A great way to get not picked is to say your hobby is a 'red card' (here in Colorado a pot card). Yeah, that guy didn't last. Also to be a lawyer or have a history of arrests. One guy was amazing, when we had to swear in for jury selection he refused and stood up to read a long handwritten diatribe against the government. The judge cut him off and had him escorted out swiftly.
I was pretty happy with the others selected, only one guy really wanted to convict the poor guy. Basically it was a woman dating 2 men and not telling them, young guy was on trial for punching the other one who ended up with severe injuries. However the injured one was drop down drunk and had punched the woman. So the only thing the young guy did was be younger, stronger and sober. They didn't have a case and shouldn't have brought it to trial. The funny thing was after the trail the judge came into the jury room. He said that he knows his job is to be impartial but he thanked us for finding him not guilty because this particular case was very clear to him. I still feel bad for the young man who had to pay for his defense.
Williamsmith
2-2-16, 8:11am
Bernie served notice last night. The Democratic Party is inundated with voters who are tired of tired politics. She doesn't appeal to the younger idealists. She will have to stop voters from abandoning her establishment machine. Bernie will have to prove he can beat the Republican nominee. And so Clinton probably takes the gloves off now. Bernie is going to have to be marginalized, more of a commie and his candidacy characterized as failed from the start.
Clinton is going to have to call in many favors. Bernie is going to get the money he needs to keep going. It's going to turn into a street fight. Bernie doesn't have the element of surprise anymore.
Clinton is going to have to call in many favors. Bernie is going to get the money he needs to keep going. It's going to turn into a street fight. Bernie doesn't have the element of surprise anymore.
Just read the Iowa results, no matter all the candidates are going to have to address what the voters are saying when they have huge support for Sanders without the large donors everyone else has. I am just so encouraged like never before, I thought I was excited about Obama but now I am just amazed about Sanders. It means to me that some of the things I have been focused on over the last 20 years are shared by a lot of younger generations, and there is a hope for my kids that some things could change.
Most people who actually serve on a jury don't want to return. Usually they are disappointed at how little of the truth is actually presented at the trial and they are always wishing that more evidence was available to hear. Still the responsibility of incarcerating a peer or fellow citizen weighs heavy on some people. I will never be allowed to serve on a jury nor would I want to. But I do want to vote.
That's me. I had a really horrible experience. I'm already planning my "out" if I get served again.
I am definitely going to register to vote today so I can vote in the Ohio primary for Bernie.
Why? Because I want to give a middle finger to the Democrap Machine. :)
That will be the only vote I cast though!
I am definitely going to register to vote today so I can vote in the Ohio primary for Bernie.
Why? Because I want to give a middle finger to the Democrap Machine. :)
That will be the only vote I cast though!
Yeah UA, I registered as a Democrat in Colorado for the same reason. I will vote more than that, paying attention to local races since there are some important things going on, like where is the huge weed tax money going if the largest and poorest district is reducing staff by 7%
Williamsmith
2-2-16, 9:49am
Yeah UA, I registered as a Democrat in Colorado for the same reason. I will vote more than that, paying attention to local races since there are some important things going on, like where is the huge weed tax money going if the largest and poorest district is reducing staff by 7%
You mean you don't trust government officials to honestly handle the approximately 80 million dollars in taxes generated by dope smoking in Colorado? In the near future all your schools will have gold plated faucets and the kids will be scoring the highest SATs in the country.
I am definitely going to register to vote today so I can vote in the Ohio primary for Bernie.
Why? Because I want to give a middle finger to the Democrap Machine. :)
That will be the only vote I cast though!
To my mind, that makes you the ideal Democratic voter.
Keep up the good work!
Ultralight
2-2-16, 10:06am
To my mind, that makes you the ideal Democratic voter.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks! Much appreciated. But if Bernie gets the nomination (impossible). Then I will vote for him again. Just sayin'.
I understand the vote was so close that six delegates were assigned by coin toss. Mrs. Clinton won all six. While I have no direct proof that she sold her soul to the Devil, this would seem to be fairly strong circumstantial evidence.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/coin-toss-broke-6-clinton-sanders-deadlocks-in-iowa-and-hillary-won-each-time-2016-02-02?dist=beforebell
You mean you don't trust government officials to honestly handle the approximately 80 million dollars in taxes generated by dope smoking in Colorado? In the near future all your schools will have gold plated faucets and the kids will be scoring the highest SATs in the country.
not
Um understatement. My friend works in the weed business, we collected waaay more taxes than we anticipated. Then a few weeks ago we had the brutal required 30 minute meeting. They assured us that the 7% that lost their jobs that morning had been told before the meeting, but didn't get everyone. My colleague's fiancee found out in the power point organizational chart in the meeting.
We all voted on weed money to go to schools, it is going to construction (those gold plated faucets are much better than the other DPS, Detroit) and health education. So the parents smoke and we have money to tell the kids to eat veggies! Obviously not what we intended.
Possibly off the soap box, but so many things to do, like not sell out our schools to big business! They actually dumped the entire school board in one district in Colorado for selling out to curriculum companies!
Thanks! Much appreciated. But if Bernie gets the nomination (impossible). Then I will vote for him again. Just sayin'.
I am tempted to not vote for Clinton if she gets it, but then again I might just vote against Republicans.
I'm concerned about Bernie in the Southern states. I am not clear on why he's not scoring with minorities. Does anyone have any ideas about that?
Ultralight
2-2-16, 10:30am
I'm concerned about Bernie in the Southern states. I am not clear on why he's not scoring with minorities. Does anyone have any ideas about that?
Uh... he is a white Jewish old man who talks like a college professor.
I am tempted to not vote for Clinton if she gets it, but then again I might just vote against Republicans.
That's one reason I'm hoping Rubio will prevail. Little enthusiasm for Clinton combined with the absence of a conservative bogeyman to bring Democrats to the polls seems like a favorable scenario for the GOP.
Uh... he is a white Jewish old man who talks like a college professor.
haha.. well I loved what Larry David said, impersonating Bernie on SNL: "In Vermont when I ran for the Senate, I got half the black vote! His name was Marcus!"
Uh... he is a white Jewish old man who talks like a college professor.
The party of diversity does seem rather pale and elderly at the top this year.
Ultralight
2-2-16, 10:43am
The party of diversity does seem rather pale and elderly at the top this year.
The party of Whitey McMale really put all its tokens at the top this year! A Latino, a black dude -- they even put a Canadian up there!
maybe more photos of him marching for civil rights? Honestly he has a long track record and he had the most positive meeting with Black Lives Matters as compared to the other candidates. I don't expect that all black voters will just fall in line for a Democratic candidate but it sounds like he is willing to really talk about the issues.
Ultralight
2-2-16, 10:49am
maybe more photos of him marching for civil rights? Honestly he has a long track record and he had the most positive meeting with Black Lives Matters as compared to the other candidates. I don't expect that all black voters will just fall in line for a Democratic candidate but it sounds like he is willing to really talk about the issues.
I think that could easily be looked at cynically. "The Bern deserves your vote! Just look at how much he marched to give you your civil rights!"
Williamsmith
2-2-16, 12:28pm
It's clear to me the black vote goes to Hillary Clinton. Trouble is....how does a black person get excited enough to actually stand in line to vote for Hillary Clinton like they did Barack. I mean the average black person....It's like standing in line to get A cup of Maxwell House coffee after you just had Starbucks. Not really exciting.
Ultralight
2-2-16, 12:31pm
It's clear to me the black vote goes to Hillary Clinton. Trouble is....how does a black person get excited enough to actually stand in line to vote for Hillary Clinton like they did Barack. I mean the average black person....It's like standing in line to get A cup of Maxwell House coffee after you just had Starbucks. Not really exciting.
LOL!
What does that make The Bern? Room temp tap water from a public utility?
LOL!
What does that make The Bern? Room temp tap water from a public utility?
Yes. In Flint, Michigan.
Ultralight
2-2-16, 12:49pm
Yes. In Flint, Michigan.
No... that Flint problem is on your people and you know it.
No... that Flint problem is on your people and you know it.
Here's the best piece I read on that particular subject:
Prior to and separate from the current water crisis, Flint was in a state of financial ruination. In one of the most liberal cities in the United States, Flint’s Democrat-dominated government did what Democrat-monopoly governments do in practically every city they control: It spent money as quickly as it could while at the same time carpet-bombing the tax base with inept municipal services, onerous regulations, high taxes, and the like. As a result of this, a bankrupt Flint entered into a state of receivership, meaning that an emergency manager — or emergency financial manager, depending upon Michigan’s fluctuating fiscal-emergency law — was appointed by state authorities and given power to supersede local elected officials in some matters, especially financial ones. The contamination happened while Flint was under the authority of an emergency manager who, though a Democrat, had been appointed to the post by Michigan’s Republican governor, Rick Snyder. He was, in fact, the most recent in a long line of emergency managers, Flint having failed for years to emerge from its state of fiscal emergency.
Because the Democratic emergency manager was appointed by a Republican governor, the people from whom one expects cheap theatrics of this sort have declared the situation in Flint to be a Republican scandal.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430072/flint-lead-water-scandal
I understand the vote was so close that six delegates were assigned by coin toss. Mrs. Clinton won all six. While I have no direct proof that she sold her soul to the Devil, this would seem to be fairly strong circumstantial evidence.
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Screen-Shot-2016-02-02-at-3.13.10-AM.jpg
With luck like that, she should try her hand at futures, maybe cattle futures. Oh, wait....
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Screen-Shot-2016-02-02-at-3.13.10-AM.jpg
With luck like that, she should try her hand at futures, maybe cattle futures. Oh, wait....
That pesky higher power was probably involved!
Teacher Terry
2-2-16, 2:29pm
Many states use the driver's licenses to select jurors. I think Bernie will not give up and be in for the long haul.
That pesky higher power was probably involved!
You mean Bill? Did he supply the coin?
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Screen-Shot-2016-02-02-at-3.13.10-AM.jpg
With luck like that, she should try her hand at futures, maybe cattle futures. Oh, wait....
She discovered the money was better in the philanthropy business.
You mean Bill? Did he supply the coin?
:devil:
:devil:
I know I'm beating this to death, but I had to laugh when Megan McArdle said:
"Clinton seems to have a stronger base of support among Iowa coins than she does among Iowa caucus voters."
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-02-02/six-takeaways-from-iowa-for-the-2016-election
I'll stop now.
I know I'm beating this to death, but I had to laugh when Megan McArdle said:
"Clinton seems to have a stronger base of support among Iowa coins than she does among Iowa caucus voters."
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-02-02/six-takeaways-from-iowa-for-the-2016-election
I'll stop now.
Encore!
Williamsmith
2-2-16, 4:51pm
Oh you guys are talking about the coin Bill Clinton provided for the assignment of caucus votes. It gives you head on both sides.
It gives you head on both sides.
da dum dum
Williamsmith
2-2-16, 5:00pm
That right there is the reason I would never vote for Hillary. She has no self respect.
That right there is the reason I would never vote for Hillary. She has no self respect.
Heck, maybe the Clintons are poly. I have no idea what the nature of their marriage is, nor do I really want any :-)
Heck, maybe the Clintons are poly. I have no idea what the nature of their marriage is, nor do I really want any :-)
I think it may be one of the cool things now, we are accepting of trans, gender queer, and even have a name for what was once 'normal' (cis). I generally don't want to know that about anyone.
off topic, I had a crush on Bill and I have a huge one on Obama. Sadly, this will not happen with Hill or Bernie.
when putting away the stuff from my old job today, my first Obama pin with his picture on it was in one of the boxes, keeping that forever
Joe Biden must be kicking himself for not jumping in.
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