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Ultralight
2-8-16, 10:38am
Was it too extravagant and gaudy a display of conspicuous consumption or just enough? LOL
I didn't see it. Obvi! ;)
I've seen some of the re-plays of some of it, and I found it disgusting. I think Beyonce is so slutty and can't believe so many people love her. She might as well have a bunch of arrows pointing to her crotch. I read that when she performed in England at some sporting even, the moms were totally grossed out and angry with her performance.
I didn't see much of the other stuff, except when they were all adding to Beyonce's grossness.
More and more, I'm feeling that I should be living in a different era. Yes, they've all had their problems, but geeze..........
And the amount of money that is spent on crap like this............ :(
My old fuddy speaking here: I wonder if Beyonce would even be considered a "star" if she covered up her body parts and stopped the ho moves in her routine. I find her lewd and lacking in talent.
Lady Gaga however, surprised me with her classiness and wonderful rendition.
herbgeek........I don't think you're an old fuddy........I think you're absolutely right and it really concerns me that she's so popular.
But at least she didn't "accidentally" flash her boobs.
I switched to the Puppy Bowl.
Now that I've had time to read my Facebook feed it's clear that approximately 50% of my friends loved it and 50% hated it. The love/hate seemed to be divided pretty clearly along the lines of age and sexual orientation with the highest number of loves being younger straight men.
Since the SF 49ers weren't playing I really didn't care about the SuperBowl, though I "slightly" favored the Westernmost team, which of course was the Broncos. So I'm relatively happy they won. We watched the last quarter-ish. Loved seeing the replay with the Blue Angels!! Couldn't care less about Lady Gaga. I guess the Budweiser commercials were disappointing -- I would have watched just to see the Clydesdales ~~ I see there's no emoticon for {LOVE}.
Williamsmith
2-8-16, 2:43pm
I was not surprised about Lady Gaga ....she showed her talent. If Tony Bennett says she is good....then she is good. I never paid much attention to Beyonce'. I'm white male and apparently was born privileged and prejudiced. So I am just accepting it and not trying to be anything I am not. So that part of the half time show was not entertaining to me. I did however think Coldplay was good. There goes my white prejudice again.
Disappointed in all of it.
If you're a fan of defensive play, then this game was for you. No big plays after the turnover/TD in the first quarter. Cam Newton got a comeuppance and is a big baby.
I was looking forward to Coldplay because I'd always read they put on a great show, but I guess you have to see them at night. Beyonce: same ol' pelvic thrusting stuff. Tina Turner could teach her a thing or two.
Commercials: This may sound impossible, but they felt dumbed down to the maximum power.
I did see Lady Gaga--she did a masterful job with tricky material. (Could we please change our national anthem to America the Beautiful? Thanks.)
I found the commercials lackluster too, except for the fetus-as-projectile, which I found cringeworthy. (Didn't some horror movie use a similar gimmick?)
Commercials were boring and no spark at all. The Clydesdale commercial barely even showed the horses. I'm wondering if the advertisers felt like they weren't getting as much bang for the big bucks and decided to not invest so much this year. That Doritos commercial has been showing for over a month already anyway. I doubt I'll ever be able to buy Doritos again without thinking about projectile babies.
I missed Lady Gaga. We had to move our TV and antenna upstairs in order to get the station to come in to watch the game. I liked Cold-Play and all the color. It just seemed happy. Beyonce ruined it for me. Dislike her.
TVRodriguez
2-8-16, 3:31pm
Wow, "slutty" "ho routine"? Really? Must a woman cover herself from wrist to ankle, as Gaga did, for her talent to be recognized, even if it's not your personal taste?
I'm not even the hugest Beyonce fan, but I thought she was great. (I love Coldplay, too, so I enjoyed that. Bruno Mars is alright by me, not a favorite, but Uptown Funk is fun!)
And have you seen the new video for Formation?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xwrbrgngUo
Just wow.
Gardenarian
2-8-16, 3:35pm
I love the Super Bowl! All the hiking trails were deserted yesterday, and it was just beautiful out :)
Wow, "slutty" "ho routine"? Really?
Sorry, I'm old fashioned. I think twerking is lewd.
iris lilies
2-8-16, 4:30pm
I loved the ad about Ryanville. I watched it three times on youtube. But it wasnt hugely clever, only a little bit clever.
Not my kind of music and no interest in football, so I didn't watch any of it. My brain just doesn't register sports as meaningful input. Gardenarian makes a good point though; I've learned that when there is a big game on, the woods, etc. are less crowded and it's a good time to do errands as well.
I thought the half-time was a reasonable match for the flavor of the game itself.
iris lilies
2-8-16, 5:02pm
Disappointed in all of it.
If you're a fan of defensive play, then this game was for you. No big plays after the turnover/TD in the first quarter. Cam Newton got a comeuppance and is a big baby.
I was looking forward to Coldplay because I'd always read they put on a great show, but I guess you have to see them at night. Beyonce: same ol' pelvic thrusting stuff. Tina Turner could teach her a thing or two.
Commercials: This may sound impossible, but they felt dumbed down to the maximum power.
I agree, shes a lot like Tina Turner in her stage show, all thighs and hair. I think she might be a better singer. Not sure.
And Tina has less covering on her body than Beyonce in some of Tina's classic shows.
I always wonder why Beyonce is considered so empowering for women when her performances are so slutty. And can she really sing? Voices are so done-over electronically and with Autotune that I think anyone can be made to sound decent.
No interest at all in the game but did catch a few minutes of the Puppy Bowl--hugely disappointed. It used to be cute, just watching a bunch of puppies playing. Now it's so full of advertising (dancers with vacuums...really?) that I turned it off.
TVRodriguez
2-8-16, 5:33pm
About the commercials: I was glad that there was a marked decrease in the number of violence-is-funny types of commercials where the slapstick goes way over the top. I never liked those.
About Beyonce: I always wonder why a woman dancing in a line of other women in formation is considered "slutty." She was not lap-dancing; I didn't see her stroking anyone or anything phallic. She was essentially line dancing, and she did it with enthusiasm and a sweet smile much of the time. I wish I could move my body the way she does when she dances, and not because I'm looking into selling myself. I think she looked awesome. She is empowering because she brings her own power--and her own wealth, worth over $250M--and claims her sexuality as her own.
I just don't get it, I guess.
I've seen some of the re-plays of some of it, and I found it disgusting. I think Beyonce is so slutty and can't believe so many people love her. She might as well have a bunch of arrows pointing to her crotch. I read that when she performed in England at some sporting even, the moms were totally grossed out and angry with her performance.
I didn't see much of the other stuff, except when they were all adding to Beyonce's grossness.
More and more, I'm feeling that I should be living in a different era. Yes, they've all had their problems, but geeze..........
And the amount of money that is spent on crap like this............ :(
What's wrong with being slutty? I have known and loved a few sluts in my day.
But at least she didn't "accidentally" flash her boobs.
I'd prefer one of her background dancers "accidentally" flash their boobs! haha
Beyonce: same ol' pelvic thrusting stuff. Tina Turner could teach her a thing or two.
Amen sistah!
iris lilies
2-8-16, 7:11pm
I always wonder why Beyonce is considered so empowering for women when her performances are so slutty. And can she really sing? Voices are so done-over electronically and with Autotune that I think anyone can be made to sound decent.
No interest at all in the game but did catch a few minutes of the Puppy Bowl--hugely disappointed. It used to be cute, just watching a bunch of puppies playing. Now it's so full of advertising (dancers with vacuums...really?) that I turned it off.
ok, you are likely right about the singing, perhaps its not so great. its all autotuned and etc now. Super Bowl halftime show is lip synced, is it not?
Beynce is considered liberating because she has big thighs and she is not a tiny, skinny girl, relatively speaking when compared to show biZ standards. And she displays those thighs prominently in her shows.
I dont mind her shows, they dont seem that extreme to me.
i thought her hair looked like crap. Perhaps that will be the new fashion, flat hair.
not dating now has it's advantages, I do not have to watch 1 sec of anything Super Bowl related. My father kept going on and on about how bad Coleman was. I kept thinking I know I'm out of it the it comes to current music but surely I would recognize the names of the bands playing the SB. I felt so stupid having no idea who he was talking about. It was Cold Play, lol. My dad's not their target audience but today everyone has been complaining about them.
I think twerking is lewd.
And that is why I like it!
UA.......I think you need a cold shower! 👹
Apparently, people were distracted by B's "lewdness" as they didn't hear the content of her lyrics which were meant to be empowering.
I am not a fan of Beyonce and I largely agree with bell hooks. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/09/beyonce-anti-feminist_n_5295891.html
But lord... those background dancers. Cold shower needed, indeed!
I thought the half-time show was a bit odd. Coldplay is supposed to be the main act? Totally upstaged by Beyonce and Bruno Mars. In fact, Chris Martin seemed like the answer to "which one of these is not like the other" as far as musical style and having (apparently) to duck-walk the entire performance. It would have helped if they mic'ed up Coldplay some; they got lost in the cheering and ambient noise.
I thought Lady Gaga did a fine job with the national anthem; I think it blows people away when they learn she really has the pipes and phrasing and style. I have her album of duets with Tony Bennett. She does a little too much "aw shucks" in the presence of Bennett's timeless skill, but she can hold her own. I don't think there's ever going to be a Bennett/Beyonce duets album.
Commercials were meh. I liked the Helen Mirren PSA for not driving while drunk. "Pillock" indeed! IMHO the British do a much better job with their version of English than Americans do. The Audi spot (retired astronaut) became a favorite with the inclusion of Bowie's music and the hat-tip to him at the end of the spot. I could go the next L Superb Owls without seeing another spot for bowel problems (though the constipation ad did seem more acceptable after the diarrhea ad -- er, aired). And MonkeyPuppyBaby (or whatever) was majorly creepy but it did exactly what advertising is supposed to do -- get people talking about the product. All in all, as I viewed the commercials, I kept thinking, "they spent millions of dollars for this?"
Simplemind
2-9-16, 12:24pm
I like Coldplay but they are more like background music for me. There I was, loving me some Bruno Mars and his dance moves when there is a sudden cut to Beyoncé. I do like some of her music, I have it on my shuffle for working out. That said, I've seen the moves and there is nothing fresh there. I could watch Bruno over and over. Covered or uncovered, she has lost my interest. Lady Gaga was not a surprise. I'm only surprised at how many people have said they were surprised. She has the pipes. Wish she played again at halftime.
why was Beyonce sluttly but bruno was just fine? hmmm ... sexism perhaps?
why was Beyonce sluttly but bruno was just fine? hmmm ... sexism perhaps?
Bruno was fully clothed. If he'd had on just a thong and was throwing his ding dong around, then it would have been the same.
I did find it disappointing that his gig was in conjunction with her's though.
It's worth remembering that this country was founded, in part, by Puritans. Their influence lingers on, for good or ill. Young people always push the envelope, although in this instance, the envelope was pushed long ago. Janet Jackson's Super Bowl Performance, anyone? Sex at halftime seems pretty harmless compared to the violence of the game itself.
This few hours of TV seems to have been freighted with a lot of political import this year. We are either to slut-shame Beyonce's twitching gluts or applaud her bold use of Black Panther symbolism (whatever that was). The Doritos commercial was condemned in some quarters for "humanizing" human fetuses. The Prius ad, with it's escaping bank robbers was a celebration of "white privilege" because they didn't perish in a hail of bullets. The Snickers ad was transphobic.
Whatever happened to the simple pleasure of watching highly paid athletes give each other brain damage?
Sexually conservative folks stressing over the perceived inappropriate behavior of musical performers on tv has been happening pretty much every since tv came into existence. The reviews after Elvis's first performance on Milton Berle's show sound a lot like some of the opinions on this thread.
From Elvis's wikipedia page: Newspaper critics were outraged: Jack Gould of The New York Times wrote, " ... His one specialty is an accented movement of the body ... primarily identified with the repertoire of the blond bombshells of the burlesque runway."[113] Ben Gross of the New York Daily News opined that popular music "has reached its lowest depths in the 'grunt and groin' antics of one Elvis Presley. ... Elvis, who rotates his pelvis ... gave an exhibition that was suggestive and vulgar, tinged with the kind of animalism that should be confined to dives and bordellos".[114] Ed Sullivan, whose own variety show was the nation's most popular, declared him "unfit for family viewing".[115]
I don't think most of the prudery expressed was so much sexual as political (objectification and all that).
Ha--I had forgotten Elvis being shot from the waist up on the Ed Sullivan show! Scandalous! :~)
I don't think it's an issue of "sexual conservatism". I think it's an issue of what's appropriate, where. If you want to go to a club to watch this kind of show.......then fine. But don't inject it into an all-ages sports event. And what kind of a message does it send to the youth watching it? To me, it's just another indicator of the downfall of our society in just about every area.
And I do wonder if those of you who thought this was fine have any children? Just curious.
I didn't think Beyoncé was slutty. I enjoy a good dance move but I felt I had seen hers so many times that I wasn't entertained by it. Bruno hasn't had the over exposure and he has a fresh way of moving yet also reminds me of Michael Jackson. Beyoncé, J Lo, whoever, they all dress skin tight or skimpy to dance. Doesn't bother me and my kid is older now but he wouldn't have been shocked by it. No different than what is on many a TV show.
Wow. I didn't see the game or the show, as I don't follow sportsball. And I couldn't pick Beyonce out of a lineup.
But I *do* see all sorts of slut-shaming going on in this thread though.
http://destinationfemme.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Slut-shaming1.jpg
No kids here, but what I see of friends' offspring, they wouldn't have been fazed by it. I'm not the intended audience for most pop culture, so I just change the channel.
I am not a fan of Beyonce and I largely agree with Bell Hooks.
If you agree with bell hooks, lose the capitalization of her name, it's important to her.
If you agree with bell hooks, lose the capitalization of her name, it's important to her.
Good catch! My hands were on autopilot! haha
iris lilies
2-9-16, 11:35pm
I don't think it's an issue of "sexual conservatism". I think it's an issue of what's appropriate, where. If you want to go to a club to watch this kind of show.......then fine. But don't inject it into an all-ages sports event. And what kind of a message does it send to the youth watching it? To me, it's just another indicator of the downfall of our society in just about every area.
And I do wonder if those of you who thought this was fine have any children? Just curious.
I wont tell you that you are wrong. We dont all have the same standards for nudity and lewdness.
But I see Beyonce as mainstream at this point in her career, shes been doing the same schtick for years. Remember all of the bruhaha about the little girls with Dance Precisions who perfoemed similar moves? That was more deserving of scrutiny, I think. I wouldn't want to pay for my kid taking that kind of dance if thats all they do.
whether Tina Turner or Madonna or Beyonce, some of the chicks up there on the stage will be selling sex qith suggestive moves. Its music, its typiclal. Most people and children eventually come to understand that its entertainment, not real life.
this kind of thing always presents good opportunity to talk about values in dress with kids. With my parents, it always worked to get my attention if they were a bit sarcastic and dismissive of the tube princesses. I can see them echoing in a WTF tone pony mom's question: why is she a role model of a strong woman again? Is it her super strong elastic shiny underwear?
Haha.
iris lilies
2-9-16, 11:37pm
Commercials were boring and no spark at all. The Clydesdale commercial barely even showed the horses...
Its the damned Belgian Brazillians. or the Brazillian Belgians. i can never remember.
TVRodriguez
2-10-16, 12:09am
Ha! Yes, bell hooks does not use capital letters. I wondered if the editing was for that before I saw bae's comment on reply. I've been working and have just now had time to catch up on this thread.
I not only have small children, but I sat next to my 6 year old daughter and watched Beyoncé slay at the Superbowl. And then we watched the video together and admired her all over again.
I'm not sure how many of you who disdained Beyoncé and her backup performers have ever danced. I mean really danced. The pure control she has over her body is really something. If my daughter ever wants to sign up for a hip hop dance class, I'll gladly acquiesce. I've done a few classes myself and thoroughly enjoyed them. Plus it's awesome and fun exercise.
iris lilies
2-10-16, 12:44am
Ha! Yes, bell hooks does not use capital letters. I wondered if the editing was for that before I saw bae's comment on reply. I've been working and have just now had time to catch up on this thread.
I not only have small children, but I sat next to my 6 year old daughter and watched Beyoncé slay at the Superbowl. And then we watched the video together and admired her all over again.
I'm not sure how many of you who disdained Beyoncé and her backup performers have ever danced. I mean really danced. The pure control she has over her body is really something. If my daughter ever wants to sign up for a hip hop dance class, I'll gladly acquiesce. I've done a few classes myself and thoroughly enjoyed them. Plus it's awesome and fun exercise.
Dancing is one thing. The gear is , well, if not somethng else, it extends the lewd.
while I might not care about pelvis thrusting moves by my 8 year old in dance practice, I might object to togs that highlight her pelvis on stage.
If its athletic, then wear clothes that speak to the athleticism.
I say "might not" care because I Dont have children and I dont really know. I do think that if my child was extremely talented and motivated to do this kind of dance I probably would support her in all of it including the questionable outfits., but a kid who was just mediocre at dancw, I might steer her in a different direction.
well i just watched it on youtube and didnt like it at all, but Beyonce is certainly fit. Nothing much appealed to me.
Ultralight
2-10-16, 7:52am
But I *do* see all sorts of slut-shaming going on in this thread though.
Yeah, I don't know why being a slut is considered a bad thing. What's so wrong with ladies having their fun? Consenting adults should be able to do whatever they like.
I also think it is okay to be a churchy prude -- to each their own. haha
Simplemind
2-10-16, 8:15pm
In reading a lot of comments on the many articles about Lady Gaga's performance. There are groups of people very upset about the kudos she is getting due to the fact (their facts) that she is a horrible person on the fast track to hell. None of them seem to be upset about Beyoncé.
Ultralight
2-15-16, 9:21pm
This is worth watching! LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ociMBfkDG1w
freshstart
2-15-16, 9:34pm
"Mommy, is Taylor Swift still white?"
lol
freshstart
2-15-16, 9:41pm
this brings to mind the slut shaming of Janet Jackson at the Super Bowl over ten yrs ago. She was shamed yet it was lily white Timberlake who tore her dress in their performance. Barely anything was said about him and she was ripped to pieces.
Ultralight
2-15-16, 10:16pm
this brings to mind the slut shaming of Janet Jackson at the Super Bowl over ten yrs ago. She was shamed yet it was lily white Timberlake who tore her dress in their performance. Barely anything was said about him and she was ripped to pieces.
My reaction was that Janet Jackson thing:
1. Sweeeeeet!
2. Oh, it is just boob.
Ultralight
2-15-16, 10:17pm
slut shaming...is a phenomenon I will never understand.
Williamsmith
2-15-16, 11:02pm
Im kinda starting to worry about my wife. She's got heavy thick black hair. And she tans really easy. In the summer, I notice I don't get treated very well at restaurants, the cops seem to pull us over more often than in the winter and people seem to be staring at us in the mall. Mixed race couple thingy. I'm wondering.....am I living in the right neighborhood?
I had a complaint against me being a racist and racial profiling a black couple. They came down pretty hard with lawyer talk all because I handed out a speeding ticket to them. My sergeant took the complaint on the phone. He filled out all the appropriate paperwork and invited them to the barracks for swearing out a formal complaint. Of course, they jumped all over that and made up wild accusations of things I supposedly said.
The day came and my sergeant met with them. He reported back to me that they had a change of mind and withdrew their complaint. He said he told them that of all the guys in his platoon, I would be the last one he'd expect that of. He praised my character and said he never saw any evidence of racism and had never had a complaint about it with me. But he said, if you want to sign on the dotted line, there would be an official investigation. They got up and left. You think the fact that my sergeant was black had anything to do with it?
herbgeek........I don't think you're an old fuddy........I think you're absolutely right and it really concerns me that she's so popular.
Really? She was well covered. Her "style" of dancing isn't my thing, but it is the style now. Seemed pretty tame really.
freshstart
2-16-16, 5:49am
...is a phenomenon I will never understand.
you would if you were a women who wore too short of a skirt by someone else's standards, ever had a 1 night stand or even a short fling and were stupid enough to talk about it the way a man would, had to walk through protestors to get into Planned Parenthood just to get basic women's healthcare, not an abortion. In the past, when asking your doc for a script for Plan B, doing the Walk of Shame in college, having a drink and not remembering what happened because your drink was roofied and you wake up only knowing that your body has had sex you did not consent to. God help you if this happened on a college campus or in the military, you will be put through slut shaming hell.
My DD's high school does not allow girls to wear leggings even if covered by a long tunic top, cannot bare any shoulder at all, jeans cannot be ripped or distressed in any way, shorts have to be so long, I honestly cannot find any long enough in the stores and other crap like that and they come out and say this is because it distracts the opposite sex in the classroom. This is a public school, who is stupid enough to come out and say that? And only the opposite sex is affected, the lesbians must be a cooler headed bunch. The boys barely have a dress code, not even for pants so low underwear show, because apparently girls are able to better control their urges. I went to this school in the 80s. They have more restrictions on girls now than they did back then. As my daughter says, "I'm a slut if my knee pokes through a slit in my jeans, my knee drives all the boys to the yard. That's Knee Power, mom, Yo."
There is a group of girls working on getting the slut shaming language out of the policy and to make the policy fair to girls and boys. They started with an easy one, what is sexual about a girl wearing leggings with a tunic that comes to her thighs? Only her legs are sticking out at the bottom and they are covered by fabric. They are allowed to show bare legs with dresses so this is particularly stupid. They started that battle last year, zero movement. Claire's friend was slut shamed in front of her English class last week for wearing alleged leggings with a tunic, per DD they were really sweat pants, she got called out in front of everyone, the class was told how inappropriate the outfit was and the girl was crying, written up and her mother had to come take her out of school. So that violation is on her record when applying for college as she is a Junior. That is slut shaming and if that happened to my kid, it would be Armageddon. A female teacher slut shaming a student in front of everyone until she cries, we've come so far.
I'll shut up, I have an opinion or ten on slut shaming, lol
iris lilies
2-16-16, 10:30am
I wouldn't want to keep up with the fashions in defining hgh school dress codes, what a pain. It was difficult enough in a work envirnment.
All of the "slut" fashions described above came into our workplace by employees at one time or another. While the enduring controversy was always blue jeans, other fashons of the moment were under scruntity.
I think leggings and tunic is a cute and fine outfit, but so many times appropriateness depends on body type. And since that then gets into body shaming, another no no, I'll just leave it with the idea that defining appropriate types of dress is fine, is not necessarily out of place, and the phrase "slut shaming" is over used.
rodeosweetheart
2-16-16, 11:04am
I wouldn't want to keep up with the fashions in defining hgh school dress codes, what a pain. It was difficult enough in a work envirnment.
All of the "slut" fashions described above came into our workplace by employees at one time or another. While the enduring controversy was always blue jeans, other fashons of the moment were under scruntity.
I think leggings and tunic is a cute and fine outfit, but so many times appropriateness depends on body type. And since that then gets into body shaming, another no no, I'll just leave it with the idea that defining appropriate types of dress is fine, is not necessarily out of place, and the phrase "slut shaming" is over used.
South Carolina went to uniforms in public schools, probably to avoid this kind of thing. I would seem to be cheaper for the parents, as well.
catherine
2-16-16, 11:08am
In reading a lot of comments on the many articles about Lady Gaga's performance. There are groups of people very upset about the kudos she is getting due to the fact (their facts) that she is a horrible person on the fast track to hell. None of them seem to be upset about Beyoncé.
Same people who discredit MLKs enormous contributions to civil rights because he had an extramarital fling or two. What does one thing have to do with the other? What do Lady Gaga's past outrageous, erotic performances have to do with the utterly respectful, masterfully performed rendition of the Star Spangled Banner on Super Bowl Sunday? I thought she looked beautiful, sang beautifully.
Otherwise I'm not getting into the slut-shaming arguments--too much of a landmine. I'm just glad I had to wear uniforms. Simplified my life greatly, I'm sure. I wish my kids had to.
Speaking of school uniforms........I've often wondered if uniforms would let kids focus more on their personalities, than their dress. I wonder what impact it would have on that?
freshstart
2-16-16, 11:24am
And since that then gets into body shaming, another no no, I'll just leave it with the idea that defining appropriate types of dress is fine, is not necessarily out of place, and the phrase "slut shaming" is over used.
I don't like that language in our policy about the clothes distracting the opposite sex. Have a dress code for both sexes, fine. But don't mention it is being done as if the opposite sex cannot control themselves. It's insulting to males and females.
IshbelRobertson
2-16-16, 2:41pm
Most schools in the UK have uniforms. Although some schools allow students in the 6th forms to wear mufti!
My daughter's school has uniforms. One of the reasons they give for it is to keep all the little fashionistas from competing for status with outfits not all of them can afford. Which I appreciate.
I also appreciate how much easier mornings can go when they don't need to agonize over what to wear.
Ultralight
2-16-16, 3:14pm
One of the reasons they give for it is to keep all the little fashionistas from competing for status with outfits not all of them can afford. Which I appreciate.
Socialist.
Socialist.
Nah just cheap. I prefer using what funds I have to crush the aspirations of the proletariat.
iris lilies
2-16-16, 3:17pm
This is worth watching! LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ociMBfkDG1w
this was funny.
Ultralight
2-16-16, 3:18pm
Nah just cheap. I prefer using what funds I have to crush the aspirations of the proletariat.
Sad-LOL!
In all seriousness, I wish we had uniforms at my workplace. Cheaper. Easier.
In my real life I have uniforms -- fishing uniform, casual uniform, look-nice-for-dates uniform. haha
At work I wear khakis and a button-up every single day, just different colors.
iris lilies
2-16-16, 3:22pm
There was a bride to be on Wedding Bee crowdsourcing an answer to the question: Is my wedding dress too low?
i was really torn on this one. This young woman was fit and had a lovely figure with prominent breasts; the dress fit perfectly, it was low cut. It loked like a million dollars, but for her wedding? In a church--no,its too much skin.
I have to say that I Also thought of her age. If she is 19 years old it seemed too sophisticated. If she is 28 and getting married at a winery, perhaps it is ok. But moving around in it is another issue, what will fall out?
Maybe Ill see if I can find that photo.
Sad-LOL!
In all seriousness, I wish we had uniforms at my workplace. Cheaper. Easier.
In my real life I have uniforms -- fishing uniform, casual uniform, look-nice-for-dates uniform. haha
At work I wear khakis and a button-up every single day, just different colors.
It is one aspect of the military I miss. You could dress in the dark. Everyone wore his rank, so you always knew your place in the pecking order. And everyone wore a name tag, so you didn't need to remember names. The ribbons and badges gave an idea of which mighty deeds merited official recognition. Drawbacks included the shiny shoe fetish and trying to find your particular coat in the Officers' Club coatroom after having a few beers.
Ultralight
2-16-16, 3:32pm
It is one aspect of the military I miss. You could dress in the dark. Everyone wore his rank, so you always knew your place in the pecking order. And everyone wore a name tag, so you didn't need to remember names. The ribbons and badges gave an idea of which mighty deeds merited official recognition. Drawbacks included the shiny shoe fetish and trying to find your particular coat in the Officers' Club coatroom after having a few beers.
Why did you leave the military? You seem to have had a good thing going there.
Sad-LOL!
In all seriousness, I wish we had uniforms at my workplace. Cheaper. Easier.
In my real life I have uniforms -- fishing uniform, casual uniform, look-nice-for-dates uniform. haha
At work I wear khakis and a button-up every single day, just different colors.
I've got seven or eight pair of gray slacks and ten blue or blue striped dress shirts. All of the shirts go just fine with all of the pants. I don't have to turn on the lights to get dressed. I just grab whatever's next in the closet.
So, you still having the nice dinner dates every other week?
freshstart
2-16-16, 4:08pm
when I first became a nurse, everyone on my unit was still wearing the white dress. I loved that, easy to move around in, you didn't have to think about what you were wearing and patients knew by sight who was the nurse. I'm glad I don't work in a hospital anymore, scrubs-ugh. In hospice we wore street clothes so as not to appear too clinical. So it was easy, my work clothes mixed in with off hours clothes.
Why did you leave the military? You seem to have had a good thing going there.
I liked the challenge of bringing newer and better weapons systems into the world, and I really liked being around the class of people you meet in the military. But I wasn't crazy about needing to move every few years, and you could see by the mid eighties that the USSR was falling apart (which was a big part of why I signed on in the first place). It just seemed like a good time, personally and professionally, to move on. I have absolutely no regrets though.
Ultralight
2-16-16, 5:57pm
you would if you were a women who wore too short of a skirt by someone else's standards, ever had a 1 night stand or even a short fling and were stupid enough to talk about it the way a man would, had to walk through protestors to get into Planned Parenthood just to get basic women's healthcare, not an abortion. In the past, when asking your doc for a script for Plan B, doing the Walk of Shame in college, having a drink and not remembering what happened because your drink was roofied and you wake up only knowing that your body has had sex you did not consent to. God help you if this happened on a college campus or in the military, you will be put through slut shaming hell.
My DD's high school does not allow girls to wear leggings even if covered by a long tunic top, cannot bare any shoulder at all, jeans cannot be ripped or distressed in any way, shorts have to be so long, I honestly cannot find any long enough in the stores and other crap like that and they come out and say this is because it distracts the opposite sex in the classroom. This is a public school, who is stupid enough to come out and say that? And only the opposite sex is affected, the lesbians must be a cooler headed bunch. The boys barely have a dress code, not even for pants so low underwear show, because apparently girls are able to better control their urges. I went to this school in the 80s. They have more restrictions on girls now than they did back then. As my daughter says, "I'm a slut if my knee pokes through a slit in my jeans, my knee drives all the boys to the yard. That's Knee Power, mom, Yo."
There is a group of girls working on getting the slut shaming language out of the policy and to make the policy fair to girls and boys. They started with an easy one, what is sexual about a girl wearing leggings with a tunic that comes to her thighs? Only her legs are sticking out at the bottom and they are covered by fabric. They are allowed to show bare legs with dresses so this is particularly stupid. They started that battle last year, zero movement. Claire's friend was slut shamed in front of her English class last week for wearing alleged leggings with a tunic, per DD they were really sweat pants, she got called out in front of everyone, the class was told how inappropriate the outfit was and the girl was crying, written up and her mother had to come take her out of school. So that violation is on her record when applying for college as she is a Junior. That is slut shaming and if that happened to my kid, it would be Armageddon. A female teacher slut shaming a student in front of everyone until she cries, we've come so far.
I'll shut up, I have an opinion or ten on slut shaming, lol
Here is what I mean:
I don't think there is anything wrong with a woman sleeping with a bunch of men and/or women. I don't care what women wear or don't wear. My personal opinion is that anything consenting adults do is fine.
And I'd prefer to date a "slut" (whatever that word means! lol) than a prude (whatever that word means!).
Ultralight
2-16-16, 6:00pm
I liked the challenge of bringing newer and better weapons systems into the world, and I really liked being around the class of people you meet in the military. But I wasn't crazy about needing to move every few years, and you could see by the mid eighties that the USSR was falling apart (which was a big part of why I signed on in the first place). It just seemed like a good time, personally and professionally, to move on. I have absolutely no regrets though.
Ah, I have always had this fear of death. And it was one of the main reasons I never joined the military. That and I am a commie pinko.
Drawbacks included the shiny shoe fetish
Ah, yes, my Marine DH still has it, and he became a civilian in 1974. I have gotten MORE lessons in spit-shine than I can remember, and I'm sure my lax shoe shine habits have driven him insane.
Ah, yes, my Marine DH still has it, and he became a civilian in 1974. I have gotten MORE lessons in spit-shine than I can remember, and I'm sure my lax shoe shine habits have driven him insane.
The Marines of my acquaintance were a great deal more hardcore than the USAF. I could see how they'd get programmed for life.
Ultralight
2-17-16, 12:44pm
The Marines of my acquaintance were a great deal more hardcore than the USAF. I could see how they'd get programmed for life.
My dad joined the Navy in 1964. Then he somehow volunteered to be a medic on the ground in Vietnam. Since he was 17 when he enlisted he was given a shorter enlistment of 3 years instead of 4.
But other than a couple wacky things, he never really brought that militarism into the home. We did have a "mess hall" arrangement for family dinner for a few years though. haha
The GI Bill put him through nursing school though, which was his "calling." He eventually became a NP.
My dad joined the Navy in 1964. Then he somehow volunteered to be a medic on the ground in Vietnam. Since he was 17 when he enlisted he was given a shorter enlistment of 3 years instead of 4.
But other than a couple wacky things, he never really brought that militarism into the home. We did have a "mess hall" arrangement for family dinner for a few years though. haha
The GI Bill put him through nursing school though, which was his "calling." He eventually became a NP.
I like the cut of your dad's jib. How's that for a military reference? My father was a captain in the infantry in the Pacific theater in WWII; he saw plenty of action, as you can imagine, and came out of it resolutely anti-war.
My dad joined the Navy in 1964. Then he somehow volunteered to be a medic on the ground in Vietnam. Since he was 17 when he enlisted he was given a shorter enlistment of 3 years instead of 4.
But other than a couple wacky things, he never really brought that militarism into the home. We did have a "mess hall" arrangement for family dinner for a few years though. haha
The GI Bill put him through nursing school though, which was his "calling." He eventually became a NP.
I'm not sure a penchant for burnished bootery amounts to "militarism". But I will admit that seven years in a culture that had little patience for excuses or equivocation was probably good for my character. I will also admit that to this day I have an obsession with punctuality that I picked up in uniform.
And I think they probably would have referred to your dad as a "corpsman".
Ultralight
2-17-16, 1:20pm
I'm not sure a penchant for burnished bootery amounts to "militarism". But I will admit that seven years in a culture that had little patience for excuses or equivocation was probably good for my character. I will also admit that to this day I have an obsession with punctuality that I picked up in uniform.
And I think they probably would have referred to your dad as a "corpsman".
Good point on the punctuality. My dad was always on time! I picked up that habit.
Ultralight
2-17-16, 1:23pm
I like the cut of your dad's jib. How's that for a military reference? My father was a captain in the infantry in the Pacific theater in WWII; he saw plenty of action, as you can imagine, and came out of it resolutely anti-war.
My grandfather was in the Pacific in WWII as well -- the navy. The only action he saw was the kind that you have to take penicillin for.
My grandfather was in the Pacific in WWII as well -- the navy. The only action he saw was the kind that you have to take penicillin for.
I have my grandfather's Silver Star and Purple Heart (France, 1918 - don't try defending the Kaiser to me!) hanging in a frame above my dresser for a daily reminder that nothing is likely to happen to me today to compare with that. It helps keep things in perspective.
Ultralight
2-17-16, 1:35pm
I have my grandfather's Silver Star and Purple Heart (France, 1918 - don't try defending the Kaiser to me!) hanging in a frame above my dresser for a daily reminder that nothing is likely to happen to me today to compare with that. It helps keep things in perspective.
Probably items worth holding onto. That goes for the perspective too!
I never got near the military, and I show up early for everything. I'm punctual to a fault.
"I have my grandfather's Silver Star and Purple Heart (France, 1918 - don't try defending the Kaiser to me!) hanging in a frame above my dresser for a daily reminder that nothing is likely to happen to me today to compare with that. It helps keep things in perspective."
Exactly! I always tell myself that whatever I'm going through doesn't compare to six months (or whatever it was) in the jungles of New Guinea. Cold comfort that, but it's keeps me putting one foot in front of the other.
Probably items worth holding onto. That goes for the perspective too!
I think so. The War to End All Wars is coming up on 100 years in the past, and I hope my kid will hang onto them after my PCS orders get cut for the afterlife. I don't have much else of heirloom caliber to leave her.
Ultralight
2-17-16, 3:26pm
I think so. The War to End All Wars is coming up on 100 years in the past, and I hope my kid will hang onto them after my PCS orders get cut for the afterlife. I don't have much else of heirloom caliber to leave her.
As a minimalist, I have very few things of heirloom caliber that I want. But I totally get it -- the symbolism and such.
I was in a documentary film program at the University of Alabama and I was making a short-form doc about labor unions. My mom had collected all these old union cards and union pins and buttons and other union-related stuff from my grandfather and other family members. I asked her to let me use them for still-photos in the documentary.
She loaned them to me and stressed over and over not to lose them. So I watched them like a hawk.
One day I came home from doing some editing and such in the lab. Since I had gotten all the still-photos I needed from these union items, I was going to run them to the post office and send them back to my mom.
But it was not to be...
My (now ex) wife had mistaken the package they were in for trash. So she had thrown them away. Gone.
Never to be found again...
My mom was, in many ways, just beside herself about losing these heirlooms. Very emotionally traumatic for her.
Some things truly are irreplaceable in the what-do-I-grab-on-the-way-out-of-the-burning-house sort of way. I can't think of any artifacts of mine my grandchildren would bother keeping.
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