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Ultralight
3-1-16, 8:26am
Mark my words:

By 9pm tonight there is a very clear and new front runner in the GOP.

Alan
3-1-16, 8:34am
A 'new' front runner? Who do you think that may be?

Ultralight
3-1-16, 8:39am
A 'new' front runner? Who do you think that may be?

Trump will no longer be front runner.

My guess would be that either Rubot or Canadian Cruz moves to the fore.

Your guess?

Alan
3-1-16, 8:46am
I'm not as optimistic as you seem to be. I think Trump stays in the lead and the real battle is for 2nd place with Cruz the early favorite.

pinkytoe
3-1-16, 9:18am
Ya know, down here in Texas, Cruz is seen as big a bozo as Rick Perry was. How he got as far as he did is beyond belief.

Alan
3-1-16, 9:30am
Ya know, down here in Texas, Cruz is seen as big a bozo as Rick Perry was. How he got as far as he did is beyond belief.As bozo's, I wonder how they gained high office, and in Perry's case, multiple times?

When I hear things like this, I'm reminded of the time my wife and I were on a train from London to Bath, circa spring of 2001. Another American tourist several rows behind us was loudly regaling the other passengers with her thoughts on George W Bush's election. Everyone snickered when she said, "I can't believe he won the election. I don't know anyone who voted for him."

Williamsmith
3-1-16, 9:34am
Dont be surprised if there is a huge turnout for Trump today. This is the WAMC's chance to make a statement and they will get off their asses and vote.

Rubio has yet to win a state and he most probably will keep that streak in tact.

Cruz might get enough delegates from Texas to insist on continuing because after all......he is on a mission from God.

It will all be great fun watching the media talk about Hitler, racism, big big walls, tax returns, secret tapes in newspaper boardrooms, deportation of mexican illegals, and all those other really really important topics.

This is the best chance for America to show the world just how freaking batsh*t crazy we really are. I believe we can.

Ultralight
3-1-16, 9:42am
When I hear things like this, I'm reminded of the time my wife and I were on a train from London to Bath, circa spring of 2001. Another American tourist several rows behind us was loudly regaling the other passengers with her thoughts on George W Bush's election. Everyone snickered when she said, "I can't believe he won the election. I don't know anyone who voted for him."

When I heard this kind of crap from my fellow lefties I would say: "When was the last time you've been to Wal-Mart? You are obviously out of touch with the real America and its electorate."

Ultralight
3-1-16, 9:45am
...he is on a mission from God.

When a politician says they are on a mission from God I kind of get really scared and freaked out. Why? Because I am an atheist? Sure.

But I think that one thing that should unite atheists and religious people is skepticism when it comes to someone seeking power and saying it is their mission from God.

I mean, don't you think God would have clued us all in about Cruz's mission around the same time he told Cruz about it?

Alan
3-1-16, 9:46am
When I heard this kind of crap from my fellow lefties I would say: "When was the last time you've been to Wal-Mart? You are obviously out of touch with the real America and its electorate."

Expand your horizons UA, it takes support from Target and Macy's shoppers as well.

Ultralight
3-1-16, 9:49am
Expand your horizons UA, it takes support from Target and Macy's shoppers as well.

lol

I know. But it gets my point across in a quip.

LDAHL
3-1-16, 10:11am
As bozo's, I wonder how they gained high office, and in Perry's case, multiple times?

When I hear things like this, I'm reminded of the time my wife and I were on a train from London to Bath, circa spring of 2001. Another American tourist several rows behind us was loudly regaling the other passengers with her thoughts on George W Bush's election. Everyone snickered when she said, "I can't believe he won the election. I don't know anyone who voted for him."

There does seem to be a lot of self-segregation going on that didn't used to. My job sometimes requires me to work with the State university system, and the opinions and assumptions of that subculture sometimes makes me feel like I'm in budget negotiations with Marie Antoinette. When our collection of suburban towns works on joint projects with our State's biggest city, I'm always surprised by the level of hostility we encounter from people who take it as an article of faith that anything good for us must somehow be bad for them.

I can well believe that there are people who go through life in some sense shielded from contrary opinion. Our higher education system seems to be formalizing that into speech codes, "safe spaces" from troubling ideas, and the like. It doesn't bode well for our future.

Ultralight
3-1-16, 10:16am
I can well believe that there are people who go through life in some sense shielded from contrary opinion. Our higher education system seems to be formalizing that into speech codes, "safe spaces" from troubling ideas, and the like. It doesn't bode well for our future.

I am with you on this, bro.

The culture of offense should offend us all.

pinkytoe
3-1-16, 10:56am
I wonder how they gained high office
Hmm...if you have to ask...

LDAHL
3-1-16, 10:59am
Ya know, down here in Texas, Cruz is seen as big a bozo as Rick Perry was. How he got as far as he did is beyond belief.

I suspect the voters may have had something to do with it.

Ultralight
3-1-16, 11:32am
Not much longer to go. A handful of hours and the fate of the nation is in different hands!

Williamsmith
3-1-16, 12:11pm
The fate of the nation is actually probably in Hillary Rodham Clinton's hands. The republicans have seen to that.

Ultralight
3-1-16, 12:16pm
The fate of the nation is actually probably in Hillary Rodham Clinton's hands. The republicans have seen to that.

She is Republican-lite.

iris lilies
3-1-16, 12:22pm
As bozo's, I wonder how they gained high office, and in Perry's case, multiple times?

When I hear things like this, I'm reminded of the time my wife and I were on a train from London to Bath, circa spring of 2001. Another American tourist several rows behind us was loudly regaling the other passengers with her thoughts on George W Bush's election. Everyone snickered when she said, "I can't believe he won the election. I don't know anyone who voted for him."

Two of my friends, friends who are close enough to talk about money and IQ scores, are big Trump supporters. Each is smarter than I am by 1) 20 IQ points and 2) 40 IQ points.

Im not sure what my point is. maybe its been bugging me that the intellectual elite here in flyover land is supporting bozo Donald. Otherwise my dealings with my conservative friends and acquaintances show little support for The Donald.

JaneV2.0
3-1-16, 1:27pm
God has come out for Bernie. I saw it on Facebook. :)

LDAHL
3-1-16, 1:35pm
God has come out for Bernie. I saw it on Facebook. :)

Is that one of the superdelegates?

Williamsmith
3-1-16, 1:37pm
The only way Trump is going to be stopped will be to destroy him. The establishment is lining up its cannons and firing at will. Can Trump still go independent?

pinkytoe
3-1-16, 1:47pm
I just voted and the line was around the building. I haven't seen such a big turnout in a long time which is a good thing. Early voting was equally strong. One thing of interest I noted is that the university (student voters) is also having one of its largest turnouts ever.

CathyA
3-1-16, 2:22pm
I can't seem to shake the feeling that Trump is pulling a fast one...........that he's just doing this to kill the GOP..........or just seeing if he can do it, or something.........I don't know what.

I have such mixed feelings about all of this. I can't even put it into words. I want some of the things he wants, but not from him. We have so many problems in this country, it almost seems like we need to start over from scratch. But I don't know what that even means........

iris lilies
3-1-16, 2:24pm
The only way Trump is going to be stopped will be to destroy him. The establishment is lining up its cannons and firing at will. Can Trump still go independent?

Oddly enough, I have always found the idea of an independent run by Trump to be attractive and I might vote for him in that role.

Assuming he doesn't win the Presidency, I like Trump as a strong independent candidate for the purpose of beginning to build a strong 3rd party. This new party that I want may have to start with the Cult of Personality which The Donald has in spades. He could run around for the next few years building a party brand that looks largely libertarian. After he runs off in disgust because America is too stupid to vote him into the White House (his own opinion) sensible Rand Paul clones come in to propel the new party forward and take many Congressinal seats, and finally the White House. Then we join hands and sing Kumbaya.

That is my dream.:)

Teacher Terry
3-1-16, 2:28pm
Unfortunately I think Trump will win. I think Bernie has lost. It will be interesting to see.

catherine
3-1-16, 3:08pm
There does seem to be a lot of self-segregation going on that didn't used to.

I've read that this is because of the internet/social media. In the "old days" you would be exposed to a wider variety of opinions just by opening the newspaper, even if the newspaper is slanted liberal or conservative. I've noticed how tired I am of my own point of view, flashed on my Facebook feed in droves, because of the sites I've "liked." I feel like "liking" Glen Beck and/or the NRA just to get exposure to different ideas from time to time.

LDAHL
3-1-16, 3:20pm
I've read that this is because of the internet/social media. In the "old days" you would be exposed to a wider variety of opinions just by opening the newspaper, even if the newspaper is slanted liberal or conservative. I've noticed how tired I am of my own point of view, flashed on my Facebook feed in droves, because of the sites I've "liked." I feel like "liking" Glen Beck and/or the NRA just to get exposure to different ideas from time to time.

That's what I use Slate and the New York Times for.

catherine
3-1-16, 3:52pm
When a politician says they are on a mission from God I kind of get really scared and freaked out. Why? Because I am an atheist? Sure.

But I think that one thing that should unite atheists and religious people is skepticism when it comes to someone seeking power and saying it is their mission from God.

I mean, don't you think God would have clued us all in about Cruz's mission around the same time he told Cruz about it?

Well, historically, prophets fly very much under the radar. In fact, I can't think of one instance in which God told any of the major historical prophets to run for office. Moses actually left his high post as Pharoah's right hand man to lead his people out of Egypt. Most spiritual leaders seem to have distanced themselves from politics. So, yes, Cruz's brazen assertion is a red flag for me.

ApatheticNoMore
3-1-16, 3:55pm
American tourist several rows behind us was loudly regaling the other passengers with her thoughts on George W Bush's election. Everyone snickered when she said I can't believe he won the election. I don't know anyone who voted for him

the second part of this is: "and I wouldn't want to!". Ha, ain't it the truth though? Although really if they voted for W the first time whatever, they expected his dad who at most was very mediocre, but the second time ... what exactly do they favor? Is it the wars or the torture or what? If *that's* what they favor, no I wouldn't want to thanks! Sure Kerry was weak, but you don't have to vote duopoly and you don't have to vote.

Williamsmith
3-1-16, 4:18pm
Well, historically, prophets fly very much under the radar. In fact, I can't think of one instance in which God told any of the major historical prophets to run for office. Moses actually left his high post as Pharoah's right hand man to lead his people out of Egypt. Most spiritual leaders seem to have distanced themselves from politics. So, yes, Cruz's brazen assertion is a red flag for me.

Well, I might be laughed completely off the stage but history has also shown that God uses some of the most despicable characters to bring about his will. You can do the research, I won't dazzle you with my amazing knowledge of the scripture. I do know 2nd Corinthians however. I'm just saying, If God's will is that Trump is my President....who am I to say that is the wrong choice. Perhaps he is an instrument of punishment for the establishment. And man does he know how to punish. I think many religious leaders have figured this one out, but many media types like Glenn Beck are really struggling with "letting go and letting God." To quote a phrase.

Alan
3-1-16, 4:35pm
the second part of this is: "and I wouldn't want to!". Ha, ain't it the truth though? Although really if they voted for W the first time whatever, they expected his dad who at most was very mediocre, but the second time ... what exactly do they favor? Is it the wars or the torture or what? If *that's* what they favor, no I wouldn't want to thanks! Sure Kerry was weak, but you don't have to vote duopoly and you don't have to vote.
Of course, this took place well before the war or torture or Kerry (there was life before Iraq). The point was, some people live in a bubble, unaware of the diversity of thought, experience and history residing all around them. Great example though!

catherine
3-1-16, 4:50pm
Well, I might be laughed completely off the stage but history has also shown that God uses some of the most despicable characters to bring about his will. You can do the research, I won't dazzle you with my amazing knowledge of the scripture. I do know 2nd Corinthians however. I'm just saying, If God's will is that Trump is my President....who am I to say that is the wrong choice. Perhaps he is an instrument of punishment for the establishment. And man does he know how to punish. I think many religious leaders have figured this one out, but many media types like Glenn Beck are really struggling with "letting go and letting God." To quote a phrase.

Sure, but Trump at least isn't "trump-eting" his candidacy as a Divine Mission. I'll grant him that. God's will is usually a little more discreetly manifested.

LDAHL
3-1-16, 4:52pm
I've read that this is because of the internet/social media. In the "old days" you would be exposed to a wider variety of opinions just by opening the newspaper, even if the newspaper is slanted liberal or conservative. I've noticed how tired I am of my own point of view, flashed on my Facebook feed in droves, because of the sites I've "liked." I feel like "liking" Glen Beck and/or the NRA just to get exposure to different ideas from time to time.

That makes sense to me. It's very easy to only go where you know your biases will be confirmed.

Miss Cellane
3-1-16, 5:04pm
When a politician says they are on a mission from God I kind of get really scared and freaked out. Why? Because I am an atheist? Sure.

But I think that one thing that should unite atheists and religious people is skepticism when it comes to someone seeking power and saying it is their mission from God.

I mean, don't you think God would have clued us all in about Cruz's mission around the same time he told Cruz about it?

Heck, I'm a practicing Catholic and the "mission from God" stuff scares me (from any politician). There's a minuscule chance that my version of religion and the other person's are remotely alike. I seriously Do Not Want someone else's religious views pushed down my throat, or affecting public policy (anymore than they already are, which is too much, IMO).

If I had my way, religion would be left completely out of politics.

Miss Cellane
3-1-16, 5:12pm
That makes sense to me. It's very easy to only go where you know your biases will be confirmed.

Or where you won't be rolling your eyes at the out-of-context sound bites, wincing at the liberties taken with the truth, etc.

Of course, that's why I avoid all televised/radio news, because they all do this now.

News outlets used to pride themselves on being as unbiased as possible. In journalism classes in college, I was taught that even if a newspaper had a left or right wing slant, they would attempt to report news stories as fairly as possible. The editorial page was a different matter, though, and strong opinions would be shared there.

But now it seems that every news outlet is focused on a small segment of the US population, and getting to the truth of any news story is difficult.

But the only way to defeat an enemy is to know that enemy. Which means, I guess, that I need to start watching the news again. However painful that may be.

freshstart
3-1-16, 7:06pm
Is that one of the superdelegates?

you crack me up

freshstart
3-1-16, 7:13pm
Heck, I'm a practicing Catholic and the "mission from God" stuff scares me (from any politician). There's a minuscule chance that my version of religion and the other person's are remotely alike. I seriously Do Not Want someone else's religious views pushed down my throat, or affecting public policy (anymore than they already are, which is too much, IMO).

If I had my way, religion would be left completely out of politics.

As it should be, nothing bothers me more than not observing that this nation was founded on the separation of Church and State. I am a Catholic but have zero in common with leaders pushing Christian values and the millions of Christians tying to get them in office.

JaneV2.0
3-1-16, 8:56pm
One silver lining--I've mostly gone cold turkey on my "all news, all the time" habit. Because now it's "all Trump, all the time," and as the kids say--I just can't. It almost makes me long for a low speed chase or an air disaster or something (OK--not really). I'm listening to much cheerier fare on line--non-fiction police procedurals, with occasional forays into my police scanner app. Much more uplifting than anything the Trumpster has to say.

Ultralight
3-1-16, 9:11pm
I am still sticking by my prediction!

Rogar
3-1-16, 10:00pm
I am still sticking by my prediction!

Might be time for a new hat:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRW7pITY5Cg

Ultralight
3-1-16, 10:20pm
Oh man...

Ultralight
3-2-16, 8:24am
Turns out I was mostly wrong.

Williamsmith
3-2-16, 8:36am
Turns out I was mostly wrong.

Its okay UA.....politics is not your strong suit........stick to origami.

It would be humorous however if you adopted a Barry Goldwater avatar for the next two weeks.

Ultralight
3-2-16, 8:39am
Its okay UA.....politics is not your strong suit........stick to origami.

It would be humorous however if you adopted a Barry Goldwater avatar for the next two weeks.

Don't tempt me! haha

CathyA
3-2-16, 9:09am
Its okay UA.....politics is not your strong suit........stick to origami.

Lol!

Teacher Terry
3-2-16, 1:16pm
UL: can not be BArry Golwater. Didn't you see the post where I told him to stop changing his avatar:~). Actually I am jealous because I have no clue how to do one.

Alan
3-2-16, 1:29pm
Actually I am jealous because I have no clue how to do one.
Settings>Edit Avatar

Teacher Terry
3-2-16, 1:33pm
Thanks Alan! So last night I am up late watching Brian Williams and Rachel somebody interview some people from the Republican party that say if Trump wins the delegates there are ways to obstruct at the convention just like what they did in Nevada to keep Ron Paul from getting the delegates he won. This should be interesting. Although, if the race was between 2 people then Trump may not be winning. The vote is split to much which is helping him.