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rodeosweetheart
3-4-16, 8:51am
I just started researching my maternal grandfather's family yesterday and traced an ancestor back to arrival in America of two Scots, Sir William Starling (Stirling clan) and Lady Margaret Napier.
Any clan relatives out there in Simple Living Land?
Apparently our clan motto is "Gang Forward" which I may adopt, as it seems a healthy sentiment. . .
iris lilies
3-4-16, 1:06pm
I just started researching my maternal grandfather's family yesterday and traced an ancestor back to arrival in America of two Scotts, Sir William Starling (Stirling clan) and Lady Margaret Napier.
Any clan relatives out there in Simple Living Land?
Apparently our clan motto is "Gang Forward" which I may adopt, as it seems a healthy sentiment. . .
Are they from Stirling then? Its a charmng place.
No.. I have a few Scots on my paternal grandmothers' side: Saunders; and my maiden name is a town in Scotland, but they actually came to America from Leitrim County, Ireland. On the maternal side, my 11th great-grandfather was George Bruce and my 11th great grandmother was Margaret Euphame Primrose (what a great name!), both from Fife, Scotland.
IshbelRobertson
3-4-16, 1:47pm
I have a Napier in my family currently, but she married 'in' to my family! How exciting to start your quest.
Btw! We are Scots or Scottish, Scott is the name of a Borders family :D
We have a university in Edinburgh called Napier. Here's the UK Clan page. http://www.clannapier.org
rodeosweetheart
3-4-16, 5:53pm
I have a Napier in my family currently, but she married 'in' to my family! How exciting to start your quest.
Btw! We are Scots or Scottish, Scott is the name of a Borders family :D
We have a university in Edinburgh called Napier. Here's the UK Clan page. http://www.clannapier.org
Thanks, Ishbel, I was trying to avoid "Scottish" because somewhere I got the idea one did not say that, so I fell into another trap, lol.
Thank you for the link to clan page--I am excited because now I can go to the Highland Games in North Carolina, which is a big deal if you are from Georgia. I am also excited to be able to buy my granddaughter a tam in the tartan!
I am also thinking this tartan wearing thing could save a lot of sartorial hassle--one could wear them to one's granddaughter's wedding, for example, and similar events and never have to buy another of those awful dresses again.
Catherine, that is so cool about the Bruce family--I have actually heard of them.
IL, I don't know much about the Stirlings--just that they are at the border, I think. When they got to the new country, the locals misspelled it "Starling" and that is how I had always heard it as a family name.
I also found out this Napier grandmother lived to be 103 years old and started out in Scotland and ended up in Kentucky. What a long strange trip that must have been.
IshbelRobertson
3-4-16, 6:24pm
The city of Stirling is not a Border town. It is often called 'an entrance to the Highlands'. My Dad was an officer in the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders (like many in his family), the regular mental museum is in Stirling Castle, and well worth a visit.
W have close friends in Aberfoyle, which is nearby. It is a very picturesque and pretty area.
Please don't buy your female relative a tammy!
Eta. Predictive text is a curse... The last line in para 1 should read 'regimental' not 'regular mental'!
iris lilies
3-4-16, 6:32pm
Thanks, Ishbel, I was trying to avoid "Scottish" because somewhere I got the idea one did not say that, so I fell into another trap...
It is "Scotch" that you want to avoid as in "I am Scotch." Scotch is a whiskey.
So Scottish is OK? Scot? We were in Aberfoyle in 1999- visited Stirling Castle and were most impressed with the treatment of the artifacts from Veterans. I decided I must have lots of Scottish blood. The women looked like me and Scotland felt like home. We did LOTS of driving.
It is "Scotch" that you want to avoid as in "I am Scotch." Scotch is a whiskey.
Like announcing you're a jelly doughnut in Germany.
(I know that's arguably a canard, but it fit.)
IshbelRobertson
3-4-16, 7:10pm
It is "Scotch" that you want to avoid as in "I am Scotch." Scotch is a whiskey.
'Our' whiskey has no 'e'!
rodeosweetheart
3-4-16, 7:14pm
Thank you, Ishbel--this is obviously a lot more complicated than it looks. Thank you for the playbook.
I have not been to Stirling Castle--only time I went to Scotland, we went to the Edinburgh Zoo, with my 4 year old.
IshbelRobertson
3-4-16, 7:16pm
So Scottish is OK? Scot? We were in Aberfoyle in 1999- visited Stirling Castle and were most impressed with the treatment of the artifacts from Veterans. I decided I must have lots of Scottish blood. The women looked like me and Scotland felt like home. We did LOTS of driving.
We are either Scottish or ScotS!
My Dad contributed a couple of things to the A&SH museum. It makes me proud to visit and view them.
We are a disparate race. I am thin, red haired and pale skinned. My Dad was tall (6 ft 4.5)' black haired and green-eyed. My Mum was 5 ft 7' slim and strawberry blonde. Dad was a highlander from Inverness, Mum from Sutherland. There is no 'Scottish' type :D
My dad was born in Scotland. We had always thought his family was only there for 2 generations or so, having escaped the Irish famine like so many by fleeing to Scotland. We assumed that's what happened mainly because he was Catholic and not Protestant. However preliminary research shows at least 3-4 generations there, so I'll have to search further back.
Interesting about the different "types", Ishbel. My mother's parents were from Ireland. My siblings are the same blue-eyed, brown hair pale skinned, but one brother is green-eyed with black hair and slightly darker complexion. We'd heard the story of the "black Irish" meaning those who intermarried with the Spaniards, so we think he's got those genes somehow. Would be interesting to do one of those genealogical DNA tests.
Anyway, not directly related to the OP but I also have enjoyed going to Highland games!
IshbelRobertson
3-5-16, 5:10pm
There has been much to-ing and fro-ing between Ireland and Scotland since ancient times. The ulster Plantation took many Scots to Ireland ( as well as lots from Northern England and the Borders). Many stayed for generations and then emigrated to various points in the world, including Australia, Canada and The US, where they became known as the Scots-Irish.
MY dad was what we call Black Celts. Raven black hair, green eyes!
We have several "gingers" in my family. My dad had red hair, and my daughter has unbelievably enviable copper hair. Everyone wants to know if it's her natural color, which I think is an insult because you can't duplicate real red hair, but it is beautiful. She also has blue eyes. I have to admit, I think my DH has cousins with the same chromosomal abnormality, so maybe I can't take full credit for DD's gorgeous hair, but I usually do. Thanks, Dad! I have two cousins and a nephew with red hair as well.
My DD says that being a redhead is like a sisterhood. You always check out other redheads and feel a kinship with them. Is that true for you, Ishbel?
IshbelRobertson
3-6-16, 3:44am
My kinship is because most of us have red hair in all its variants in my family. ;) Mine is a red-blonde, others have deep auburn, others a russet red. The odd thing is that all ofs have poker straight,mreally thick hair, not a wiry, curly gingernut amongst us.
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