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Ultralight
5-3-16, 2:07pm
Predictions?

Does Mr. Boring drop out of the presidential race after today?

Williamsmith
5-3-16, 2:15pm
Mr. Cruz will be seeking counseling for Post traumatic stress disorder. Mr. Sanders will continue if he can finance a campaign. Mr. Trump will gloat. The Hildabeast will be kissing ass in West Virginia trying to convince coal miners that she really didn't mean what she really did say. And Mr. Kasich.........who is Mr. Kasich again?

Alan
5-3-16, 2:16pm
Predictions?

Does Mr. Boring drop out of the presidential race after today?
No, I think Trump and Bernie will stick with it till the end.

jp1
5-3-16, 2:25pm
You think lucifer is boring? Your athiesm is showing... :~)

But seriously he's in it to win it. Or at least in it to thwart the will of the republican primary voters in a contested convention.

LDAHL
5-3-16, 2:25pm
I don't think anyone will drop out between now and June. The GOP guys all seem to have hopes for a Cleveland bonus round. Hillary is inevitable. I'm not sure Bernie was ever in it for the Presidency anyway.

jp1
5-3-16, 2:26pm
Oops. I am reminded by the other posts that there's a third candidate on the republican side of things. Undoubtedly, since I'd forgotten of his existence, that's who you were referring to as Mr. Boring...

jp1
5-3-16, 2:27pm
No, I think Trump and Bernie will stick with it till the end.

Unfortunately, only one is more likely to win his party's nomination.

Ultralight
5-3-16, 2:30pm
Mr. Boring is from Ohio.

All the others are colorful characters!

Alan
5-3-16, 2:30pm
Unfortunately, only one is more likely to win his party's nomination.Oh, I don't know. Candidates on both sides are promising a contested convention and I'm holding out hope that we'll see a Cruz vs Sanders general election.

jp1
5-3-16, 2:34pm
Oh, I don't know. People on both sides are promising a contested convention and I'm holding out hope that we'll see a Cruz vs Sanders general election.

It's so rare that I agree with you 100%. But I suspect that if anyone is able to use arcane rules designed to benefit insiders and thwart the 'stupidity' of the voters it will only be Cruz.

Ultralight
5-3-16, 2:39pm
Oh, I don't know. Candidates on both sides are promising a contested convention and I'm holding out hope that we'll see a Cruz vs Sanders general election.

I'd be fine with this.

Ultralight
5-3-16, 2:40pm
It's so rare that I agree with you 100%. But I suspect that if anyone is able to use arcane rules designed to benefit insiders and thwart the 'stupidity' of the voters it will only be Cruz.

Lyin' Ted!

Alan
5-3-16, 2:41pm
It's so rare that I agree with you 100%. But I suspect that if anyone is able to use arcane rules designed to benefit insiders and thwart the 'stupidity' of the voters it will only be Cruz.Well, he's a bright guy and clearly capable of working within the rules to gain his best advantage, and then there's Bernie, complaining about the Dem's super delegates being unfair if they're not completely responsive to his supporters wishes. All considered, it's a classic representation of the two parties.

ApatheticNoMore
5-3-16, 2:44pm
Lyin' Ted!

The thing is Trump lies as much and is as corrupt as those he accuses of lying and corruption. How about: personality disordered Trump or Mr. Personality Disorder (of great relevance to the presidential campaign this year is whether personality disorders like narcissism are indeed untreatable or not).

LDAHL
5-3-16, 2:47pm
I read Ben Carson has released his delegates. Both of them. Apparently he had them locked up in his basement.

Ultralight
5-3-16, 2:47pm
The thing is Trump lies as much and is as corrupt as those he accuses of lying and corruption.

Lyin' Ted. 'Nuff said!

jp1
5-3-16, 2:52pm
Well, he's a bright guy and clearly capable of working within the rules to gain his best advantage, and then there's Bernie, complaining about the Dem's super delegates being unfair if they're not completely responsive to his supporters wishes. All considered, it's a classic representation of the two parties.

Indeed, Ted's an insider. Rules designed to thwart outsiders won't do much to stop him. Especially when going up against an outsider. As for Bernie, one's person's complaining,is another's legitimate gripe. I mean come on, how else should he consider winning 56% of the WY vote but walking away with less delegates. And Debbie Wasserman Shultz was perfectly comfortable admitting on tv that the purpose of the undemocratic delegates was to stop undesirables like Bernie from having much of a chance. Both parties, with their BS rules, obviously exist only to keep themselves in power at the expense of the voter's wishes.

Ultralight
5-3-16, 2:55pm
Indeed, Ted's an insider. Rules designed to thwart outsiders won't do much to stop him. Especially when going up against an outsider. As for Bernie, one's person's complaining,is another's legitimate gripe. I mean come on, how else should he consider winning 56% of the WY vote but walking away with less delegates. And Debbie Wasserman Shultz was perfectly comfortable admitting on tv that the purpose of the undemocratic delegates was to stop undesirables like Bernie from having much of a chance. Both parties, with their BS rules, obviously exist only to keep themselves in power at the expense of the voter's wishes.

Voters are dumb! Without the rules we'd have dumb people electing other dumb people.

Oh... wait... :(

Alan
5-3-16, 2:59pm
Both parties, with their BS rules, obviously exist only to keep themselves in power at the expense of the voter's wishes.
That's mostly true, they're both private organizations unhindered by democracy. Always have been. But I'm not sure that either private organization has any duty to reflect the voter's wishes. That's where Independents come into play.
I'm just as surprised that the Democrats allowed a Socialist to run within their party as I am that the Republicans allowed a Democrat to run in theirs.

LDAHL
5-3-16, 3:06pm
Indeed, Ted's an insider. Rules designed to thwart outsiders won't do much to stop him. Especially when going up against an outsider. As for Bernie, one's person's complaining,is another's legitimate gripe. I mean come on, how else should he consider winning 56% of the WY vote but walking away with less delegates. And Debbie Wasserman Shultz was perfectly comfortable admitting on tv that the purpose of the undemocratic delegates was to stop undesirables like Bernie from having much of a chance. Both parties, with their BS rules, obviously exist only to keep themselves in power at the expense of the voter's wishes.

But aren't the parties private organizations free to create any rules they wish? Bernie's not even a Democrat, and he's crying about Democratic Party rules. If people dislike how a particular party selects candidates, they can take their business elsewhere.

CathyA
5-3-16, 3:07pm
But if Bernie is president (and his heart doesn't give out at the inauguration), won't it be worse working with congress than it was with Obama?

Alan
5-3-16, 3:11pm
But if Bernie is president (and his heart doesn't give out at the inauguration), won't it be worse working with congress than it was with Obama?That depends on Bernie. Congress has a duty as one of the checks and balances on executive power. As the Presidency has become more and more extra-constitutional, if he steps out of line someone has to stop him.

ApatheticNoMore
5-3-16, 3:12pm
No it's a monopoly (a duopoly) and so business can not be taken elsewhere. It needs to be treated as such, monopolies like utilities may get a monopoly but are also often regulated in the public good because it is recognized they are a monopoly and thus could abuse that power, even when it's best to have a monopoly. Or break them all up - call it enforcing anti-trust and build a system where two parties can not dominate.

Just purely private organizations ... that oh also have the power to govern and make laws for the whole country. Ok which one is it, because I don't think it can be both. Maybe a private organization like the mafia is a private organization.

JaneV2.0
5-3-16, 3:17pm
But if Bernie is president (and his heart doesn't give out at the inauguration), won't it be worse working with congress than it was with Obama?

Bernie amazes me with his stamina; he seems the picture of health. Trump, not so much.

ApatheticNoMore
5-3-16, 3:21pm
Bernie amazes me with his stamina; he seems the picture of health.

Having seen him in person he seems quite healthy. Hillary I'm not so sure of. She literally had a brain operation awhile ago, something similar to a stroke though not a stroke.

LDAHL
5-3-16, 3:23pm
I think Government regulating politics is a very bad idea. I wouldn't want to see something like Iran's Guardian Council operating here. If enough people become dissatisfied with the two dominant parties, they can in fact go elsewhere. Just ask the Whigs.

Alan
5-3-16, 3:27pm
I think Government regulating politics is a very bad idea.
Although history has shown that citizen participation goes up wherever the government does regulate the political process. Many places see voter participation in excess of 100%, with remarkable disparities between winners and losers, so clearly the will of the people is well served. ;)

freshstart
5-3-16, 3:45pm
Oh, I don't know. Candidates on both sides are promising a contested convention and I'm holding out hope that we'll see a Cruz vs Sanders general election.

I could live with this. Sanders keeps asking for more money, I'm not sure if it's a total waste this far in the game

freshstart
5-3-16, 3:46pm
I read Ben Carson has released his delegates. Both of them. Apparently he had them locked up in his basement.

good one!

LDAHL
5-3-16, 3:54pm
I could live with this. Sanders keeps asking for more money, I'm not sure if it's a total waste this far in the game

If his goal was to push the Democrats to the left, he's already won.

Ultralight
5-3-16, 3:56pm
But the pressure will be off soon enough.

LDAHL
5-3-16, 3:57pm
Although history has shown that citizen participation goes up wherever the government does regulate the political process. Many places see voter participation in excess of 100%, with remarkable disparities between winners and losers, so clearly the will of the people is well served. ;)

Wouldn't it be wonderful to live in a country where the Dear Leader was so beloved that the people cast unanimous votes for him, his son and his grandson?

LDAHL
5-3-16, 4:08pm
But the pressure will be off soon enough.

You think so? I'm not sure a Clinton administration might not read the zeitgeist to be shifting a bit toward the big government left. We may be seeing fewer robber barons and more commissars in the next few years.

Alan
5-3-16, 4:10pm
Wouldn't it be wonderful to live in a country where the Dear Leader was so beloved that the people cast unanimous votes for him, his son and his grandson?
Yes it would! Although I'm not sure we deserve the likes of the Dear Leader you infer, who was truly a remarkable man and deserved to live on through his progeny. Did you know that on his very first round of golf he came in 38 under par with no less than 11 holes in one? I know that's true because it's in the official government biography!

Ultralight
5-3-16, 4:18pm
You think so? I'm not sure a Clinton administration might not read the zeitgeist to be shifting a bit toward the big government left. We may be seeing fewer robber barons and more commissars in the next few years.

I wonder if I could get a job as an assistant to a commissar...

LDAHL
5-3-16, 4:19pm
Yes it would! Although the Dear Leader you infer was truly a remarkable man and deserved to live on through his progeny. Did you know that on his very first round of golf he came in 38 under par with no less than 11 holes in one? I know that's true because it's in the official government biography!

He was like a real-life version of "the world's most interesting man". Obviously, the voters will respond to charisma like that.

LDAHL
5-3-16, 4:20pm
I wonder if I could get a job as an assistant to a commissar...

If he gets his way, we may all be assistants to a commissar.

Alan
5-3-16, 4:21pm
I wonder if I could get a job as an assistant to a commissar...I don't see why not. Your passion for minimalism would compliment forced austerity (in the best interests of the people) perfectly.

Ultralight
5-3-16, 4:26pm
I don't see why not. Your passion for minimalism would compliment forced austerity (in the best interests of the people) perfectly.

You know... I think you're on to something here.

Alan
5-3-16, 4:29pm
You know... I think you're on to something here.Of course you'd have to change your name here to ApparatchikAngler. I could help you with that when the time comes.

jp1
5-3-16, 6:44pm
I think Government regulating politics is a very bad idea. I wouldn't want to see something like Iran's Guardian Council operating here. If enough people become dissatisfied with the two dominant parties, they can in fact go elsewhere. Just ask the Whigs.

Since we have a duopoly where the ability of anyone else to start a viable new party is pretty much zero unless one, or both, of the existing parties completely implode, then I do think the government should be involved. They are already very much involved in the primaries in many many ways, it's just that the involvement does nothing to add to the democratic process, and lots to hinder it for the benefit of the existing parties. But that's not a surprise since it's almost entirely members of the two parties who make the laws that benefit them.

rosarugosa
5-3-16, 8:30pm
Bernie won in Indiana!

Ultralight
5-3-16, 8:32pm
Bernie won in Indiana!

Are you sure?

Williamsmith
5-3-16, 8:37pm
The Democrats better batten down the hatches.....a flood of pissed off working class people is threatening to crash over the deck. Cruz would have been a really good candidate .......in the 1980s. Only Cruz could spin an ass whooping by a bully into a God blessed martyrdom. The guy loves to hear himself talk.

Ultralight
5-3-16, 8:51pm
Holy Eff! Did Lyin' Ted drop out?

rosarugosa
5-3-16, 8:53pm
!pow!

JaneV2.0
5-3-16, 9:25pm
BREAKING: Fiorina Sets Personal Speed Record for Destroying Organization--Andy Borowitz

Yes, Bernie has been declared the winner in Indiana--53 to 47%, I think.

Williamsmith
5-3-16, 10:02pm
BREAKING: Fiorina Sets Personal Speed Record for Destroying Organization--Andy Borowitz

Yes, Bernie has been declared the winner in Indiana--53 to 47%, I think.

And Clinton gets more of the delegates.

Clinton is e presumptive nominee. But this is the great thing that Bernie has done. He has organized a national town hall and invited Clinton. When she got there the taxpayers, the voters, the PEOPLE, put her on notice. The status quo is not acceptable anymore. Things have to change. Go back to your job and make the changes......see you back in a month to discuss how you are doing.

She is going to have to eat her Wheaties......Trump will give her more than a few late night headaches.

JaneV2.0
5-3-16, 10:07pm
Think what Bernie could have done with a little media coverage...

ApatheticNoMore
5-3-16, 10:17pm
Think what Bernie could have done with a little media coverage...

only as much as Trump got, that's all we ask.*

* I am course of the opinion that the media entirely MADE Trump, and heaven help us all! Oh sure it's all supposed to be organic and have nothing to do with media at all, and if you'll buy that I have a wall ... I mean a bridge, a bridge ... to sell you, real cheap.

Williamsmith
5-3-16, 11:36pm
only as much as Trump got, that's all we ask.*

* I am course of the opinion that the media entirely MADE Trump, and heaven help us all! Oh sure it's all supposed to be organic and have nothing to do with media at all, and if you'll buy that I have a wall ... I mean a bridge, a bridge ... to sell you, real cheap.

From SoCal the perspective is entirely different than from the rust belt. Pennsylvania could give Trump the election. All 67 counties went for him in the primary. As Neal Young said, "It's better to Burn Out, than it is to Rust." "There's more to the picture than meets the eye."


http://youtu.be/t4Y1wDdMYH4

gimmethesimplelife
5-4-16, 1:28am
The mood of the neighborhood is this - poor Carly, all dressed up in non thrift store clothes with no place to go. To this I will personally add.....ditch the attempts at seeming human via CREEPTASTIC singing skills. As to Ted Cruz.....They are likely laughing in Ottawa right this minute as he's no longer a legal citizen in Canada. Big loss to Canada I'm sure. At least the Cruz/Fiorina combo of the Train Wreck Daily Special is no more. Thank You voters in Indiana.....Rob

freshstart
5-4-16, 7:55am
Bernie took it!

Zoe Girl
5-4-16, 8:17am
Bernie took it!

Yeah! I am so happy,

LDAHL
5-4-16, 8:45am
I am the opposite of happy. Big government had a big night in Indiana.

I now have to decide whether to vote third party or write in Marco Rubio at the top of the ticket, and pray for an "obstructionist" congress.

Ultralight
5-4-16, 8:57am
I have two feelings at the moment.

One is this looming sense of doomsday.

The other is the sense that we're going to go deeper into the dystopia.

Williamsmith
5-4-16, 9:03am
You can only poke sticks at the dog so long and then it bites back.

Ultralight
5-4-16, 9:08am
Workin' Man's Resurrection?

bae
5-4-16, 1:18pm
I am the opposite of happy. Big government had a big night in Indiana.

I now have to decide whether to vote third party or write in Marco Rubio at the top of the ticket, and pray for an "obstructionist" congress.

I encourage you to investigate various third party candidates.

Ultralight
5-4-16, 1:21pm
A vote for a third party is a vote for Clinton!

bae
5-4-16, 1:23pm
A vote for a third party is a vote for Clinton!

Nope.

Ultralight
5-4-16, 1:24pm
Nope.

Is too! hahaha

bae
5-4-16, 1:25pm
Is too! hahaha

Well, looks like you deserve whichever Lizard Overlord they foist off on you this year. Enjoy.

Ultralight
5-4-16, 1:27pm
Well, looks like you deserve whichever Lizard Overlord they foist off on you this year. Enjoy.

I am just messing with you. I voted Nader in 2000 and all I heard from everyone was "A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush!" LOL

LDAHL
5-4-16, 1:49pm
I encourage you to investigate various third party candidates.

I have my eye on Zoltan Istvan of the Transhumanist Party.

bae
5-4-16, 2:01pm
I have my eye on Zoltan Istvan of the Transhumanist Party.

I must confess that Vermin Supreme seems like a sound candidate in the face of the competition.

JaneV2.0
5-4-16, 2:02pm
I've voted for practically every outsider who ever ran, except for the Lizard Overlord candidate. I'll have to consult David Icke to see who that might be. !pow!

Ultralight
5-4-16, 2:04pm
Lizard Overlord

I am imagining a Gorn or perhaps someone from that 80s sci-fi show V.

JaneV2.0
5-4-16, 2:07pm
According to John Boehner, it's Ted Cruz. :devil:

LDAHL
5-4-16, 2:07pm
I am imagining a Gorn or perhaps someone from that 80s sci-fi show V.

I miss Jane Badler.

bae
5-4-16, 2:12pm
According to John Boehner, it's Ted Cruz. :devil:

When looking at the lineup, Cruz always caught my eye as the Lizard Overlord.

http://media.salon.com/2015/08/They-Live.jpg

This election has made me think "They Live" was more of a documentary than I had imagined. I suspect another 2-4 election cycles and "Idiocracy" will look understated.

JaneV2.0
5-4-16, 2:27pm
We're living in the proverbial "interesting times."

rosarugosa
5-4-16, 5:31pm
Vermin is local guy from my neck of the woods. I would certainly prefer him to Trump, but I'm continuing to hold out hope for Bernie!