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What the heck is up with Kasich?
Lyin' Ted quit. Trump is winning solidly.
Why is Mr. Boring still playing?
Chicken lady
5-4-16, 6:55am
For the publicity? Kasick in 2020?
I know some women who married mr. Exciting, and then ten years later mr. Boring came along with a good job and a willingness to help raise the kids mr. Exciting walked out on and she snapped him up.
I know some women who married mr. Exciting, and then ten years later mr. Boring came along with a good job and a willingness to help raise the kids mr. Exciting walked out on and she snapped him up.
Wait... really? You know women who did this?
Chicken lady
5-4-16, 7:10am
Yup. Not because they wanted a meal ticket, because after the first guy, steady and reliable looked really good. When you're a single mom in her 30's, Romance shows up at the door with a pizza and the markers your kid needs for tomorrow's project, not a dozen roses and a bottle of wine.
Yup. Not because they wanted a meal ticket, because after the first guy, steady and reliable looked really good. When you're a single mom in her 30's, Romance shows up at the door with a pizza and the markers your kid needs for tomorrow's project, not a dozen roses and a bottle of wine.
Actually it does sound like they want a meal ticket, not to appear cynical. Though I absolutely do not blame them for wanting a meal ticket and someone to help take care of the kids. Taking care of kids by oneself is hard.
But why not call a duck a duck?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sgpwTBnuLo
Chicken lady
5-4-16, 7:43am
No, they want someone who can pull their own weight - they don't want to support him and they don't want to deal with him changing "careers" all the time to follow his dreams - they want his dream to be to come home to them and the kids every night, watch school plays and soccer games, and maybe take a family vacation every summer.
i think your pov comes from not liking kids, so you see them as a down side, not an upside. My best friend from college was a really great guy who had very little luck dating. When my daughter was born he commented that he liked kids, but not babies "which is probably good, because my genes are terrible and I'll probably get married in my 30's to some woman who has two sons and an ex who can't be bothered to call on their birthdays - hopefully they'll like basketball."
you have posted information on your salary, appearance, lifestyle, and personal habits. If you genuinely enjoyed children - you would be highly datable in the single mom demographic. They had the successful lawyer. He drank too much, took the house, avoided child support, took his visitation when he felt like it, and now has a new wife and a girlfriend. (That is a real guy btw)
No, they want someone who can pull their own weight - they don't want to support him and they don't want to deal with him changing "careers" all the time to follow his dreams - they want his dream to be to come home to them and the kids every night, watch school plays and soccer games, and maybe take a family vacation every summer.
Sounds to me like they want someone who can pull their own weight and the weight of their kids. But again, I don't blame them. If I was a single parent I'd sure as heck want someone to come in and help me!
i think your pov comes from not liking kids, so you see them as a down side, not an upside.
Not liking kids? When did I say that? I am most likely going to be the Guideparent (secular version of "godparent") to my sister and BIL's kid.
I really cannot afford kids. That is the bottom line. I also don't have the time it takes to raise a kid. I have partly chosen and partly been lucky so far to not have any kids.
you have posted information on your salary, appearance, lifestyle, and personal habits. If you genuinely enjoyed children - you would be highly datable in the single mom demographic. They had the successful lawyer. He drank too much, took the house, avoided child support, took his visitation when he felt like it, and now has a new wife and a girlfriend. (That is a real guy btw)
I appreciate you saying I would be dateable. haha:)
When I was dating online I'd get messages -- many! -- from single moms. I had mixed feelings about this.
Chicken lady
5-4-16, 8:13am
not liking kids in the sense that I do not like dogs. I actually love my son's gf's dog. She's very sweet, and affectionate, and can be good company. But I have no interest in buying dog food, or cleaning up dog hair on a regular basis, or dealing with dog poop and an animal that has to be walked and taken outside to pee, and worrying about her getting bored and chewing things, and paying her vet bills, and wet dog smell.... I would never have my own dog.
these guys feel about their step kids much the way you feel about Harlan.
would you date a woman who wanted you to pay for everything and considered Harlan a downside? What if she was really attractive and charming? Or would you prefer one who can support herself and adores your dog and doesn't mind bagging his poop when the three of you go on walks - which she considers a date?
i'm just saying - back to the politics, flashy and exciting often doesn't wear well, and leaves a taste for dependable.
What the heck is up with Kasich?
Lyin' Ted quit. Trump is winning solidly.
Why is Mr. Boring still playing?
He's the political equivalent of Eddie the Eagle.
iris lilies
5-4-16, 9:41am
Wait... really? You know women who did this?
Bad Boys and Good Good boys-- if you are smart, you know the difference.
you have fun with the bad boys but you don't ever marry them. But there are women who didnt get that memo.
Good boys get a raw deal?
iris lilies
5-4-16, 9:44am
Good boys get a raw deal?
Dude, they get the girl in the end, and the dog and the kids.
happily ever after.
Chicken Lady did a nice job summarizing a situatin weve all seen. we have two of those just on DH's side with his sisters.
I truly admire men who step up and take on the children of other men, they are heroes, and they do it because they love the children. Its not about being a good citizen or a goody goody, they ARE a dad. Webe all forgotten the orignal dads of these kids.
Dude, they get the girl in the end, and the dog and the kids.
Something about this rationale seems... off.
Here is what I question: Why did they not get the girl in the beginning? And the kids aren't his! His only solace is the dog -- and he has to pick up its poo!
iris lilies
5-4-16, 10:35am
Something about this rationale seems... off.
Here is what I question: Why did they not get the girl in the beginning?
because everyone is young and stupid
the kids aren't his!
but he thinks they are, thats what is so cool.
Ultralight
5-4-16, 10:42am
because everyone is young and stupid.
How is a good guy supposed to feel at ease about how and why he was chosen by his wife then?
"Hey, good guy! I choose you now because I am 39 years old, have three kids, bad credit, and VD. I think I am just the fixer-upper for you! But wait until after this cycle of penicillin." lol
And that, in a nutshell, is why I never found marriage appealing.
It's always seemed more like a business transaction than anything else. I'll leave it at that.
iris lilies
5-4-16, 10:48am
And that, in a nutshell, is why I never found marriage appealing.
It's always seemed more like a business transaction than anything else. I'll leave it at that.
I think my marriage does have a lot of "business" in it, the business of life. We are a good economic team.
Ultralight
5-4-16, 11:05am
but he thinks they are, thats what is so cool.
Cool? I dunno. Perhaps saintly?
I think of these guys who swoop in and take care of some woman's kids as being the ultimate socialist-democrats of the family unit. They give so much of their wealth and resources to improve the lives of others and get nothing material in return.
Cool? I dunno. Perhaps saintly?
I think of these guys who swoop in and take care of some woman's kids as being the ultimate socialist-democrats of the family unit. They give so much of their wealth and resources to improve the lives of others and get nothing material in return.I suspect you don't understand the concept of a family being bigger than you. If you go through life evaluating opportunities in the 'what's in it for me' mindset, you miss out on the 'I'm part of something wonderful' experience.
Cool? I dunno. Perhaps saintly?
I think of these guys who swoop in and take care of some woman's kids as being the ultimate socialist-democrats of the family unit. They give so much of their wealth and resources to improve the lives of others and get nothing material in return.
Nothing MATERIAL in return.
Failure to understand the real return on investment in this situation will lead to a bleak life indeed.
I think my marriage does have a lot of "business" in it, the business of life. We are a good economic team.
I've always disliked anything and everything about "business," so that may be part of it. Except for office supplies. I love office supplies...
Ultralight
5-4-16, 11:16am
I suspect you don't understand the concept of a family being bigger than you. If you go through life evaluating opportunities in the 'what's in it for me' mindset, you miss out on the 'I'm part of something wonderful' experience.
Maybe...
But more so I was playing devil's advocate for the "good" guy who gets the "leftovers" or the "mess" or whatever the truly cynical types would call it.
I have no problem with guys who have the money and resources to do so marrying women with a pre-fam. If everyone is happy, then great!
I actually do feel that I am part of something wonderful. But for me it happens to be the local atheist/secular humanist community, the local voluntary simplicity community, and nature when I go fishing and such.
Heck, when I look up at the sky at night and see the stars I think: "How amazing it is, in this brief moment, that I am looking at the stars -- who are essentially made of the same material as me!"
Wonder... indeed!
Ultralight
5-4-16, 11:17am
Nothing MATERIAL in return.
Failure to understand the real return on investment in this situation will lead to a bleak life indeed.
Don't worry about me. I am not much for materialism. :)
I actually do feel that I am part of something wonderful. But for me it happens to be the local atheist/secular humanist community, the local voluntary simplicity community, and nature when I go fishing and such.
Heck, when I look up at the sky at night and see the stars I think: "How amazing it is, in this brief moment, that I am looking at the stars -- who are essentially made of the same material as me!"
Wonder... indeed!
How's that working out for you, relationship wise?
ApatheticNoMore
5-4-16, 11:31am
Hooking up with a guy with kids long past baby stage has always seemed ok with me, whereas having to give birth to my own has always seemed something best avoided (and I doubt my DNA is any great blessing either).
But Kashish as a protest vote. Look there are people who will vote Republican in the remaining states who will want to register protest (at least non-endorsement) of Trump and he gives them that option. Why shouldn't they have that option, many states haven't even voted yet.
Ultralight
5-4-16, 11:32am
How's that working out for you, relationship wise?
Like in romance? I am a "relationship loser." haha
I feel like an important and valued member of my communities (secular and voluntary simplicity). So I still have that.
ApatheticNoMore
5-4-16, 11:35am
Believe it or not romance really doesn't solve all your problems either.
Ultralight
5-4-16, 11:39am
Believe it or not romance really doesn't solve all your problems either.
I know. Romance has caused plenty of problems in my life too!
I suspect you don't understand the concept of a family being bigger than you. If you go through life evaluating opportunities in the 'what's in it for me' mindset, you miss out on the 'I'm part of something wonderful' experience.
Families don't always live up to the "something wonderful" ideal.
Ultralight
5-4-16, 11:48am
Families don't always live up to the "something wonderful" ideal.
So true.
Families don't always live up to the "something wonderful" ideal.
That's true, but it's usually because someone can't get past the 'what's in it for me' stage.
That's true, but it's usually because someone can't get past the 'what's in it for me' stage.
Or maybe because of personality differences, or any of myriad other reasons.
Cool? I dunno. Perhaps saintly?
I think of these guys who swoop in and take care of some woman's kids as being the ultimate socialist-democrats of the family unit. They give so much of their wealth and resources to improve the lives of others and get nothing material in return.
I think my stepfather was a hero, to use IL's terminology. He and my mother married in the 60s, and he certainly didn't bring wealth to the equation, but he did get up and go to work every day. Because he was only 28 years old, 10 years my mother's junior, he was more like a big brother than a father to us 4 kids in a certain sense. He was authoritative without overstepping my mother and supportive at the same time. I admire the way he knew how to walk the tightrope of stepfatherhood deftly, so young, and with no good role models.
Unfortunately he fell off the wagon eventually and went back to being the "bad boy."
PS. Mr. Boring is dropping out, according to CNN Breaking News.
Ultralight
5-4-16, 12:30pm
Unfortunately he fell off the wagon eventually and went back to being the "bad boy."
What do you mean?
Ultralight
5-4-16, 12:34pm
PS. Mr. Boring is dropping out, according to CNN Breaking News.
Things just got a little more fun in this election!
ApatheticNoMore
5-4-16, 12:39pm
Wow should have stayed in for the protest vote, what's wrong with being a protest vote, unless you really are a team player (that team however has no future, not if it's running on racist garbage - the next generation isn't going to go there - they are diverse and inclusive).
What do you mean?
My mother met him in AA. He was sober at that time and remained sober for about 6-7 years. Then he got an inheritance from his grandmother, and fell off the wagon and became dually addicted to alcohol and pain pills. My mother divorced him, and wound up marrying another alcoholic--a real loser who broke her nose and then walked out on her when she became ill.
Ultralight
5-4-16, 12:44pm
Sometimes you have to crumple the paper up and start a new blueprint.
Ultralight
5-4-16, 12:45pm
My mother met him in AA. He was sober at that time and remained sober for about 6-7 years. Then he got an inheritance from his grandmother, and fell off the wagon and became dually addicted to alcohol and pain pills. My mother divorced him, and wound up marrying another alcoholic--a real loser who broke her nose and then walked out on her when she became ill.
Sorry to hear that. Heartbreaking.
Step parenting and foster parenting are similar. You do it cause you've fallen in love with kids. I love my two foster grandkids just as much as I love my bio grandson. If a tragedy occurs, my husband and I are guardians of our grandson. At this point I would also request to keep the foster kids and raise them too, adopting them if that's how their cases turn out in court.
It used to be that a marriage united two families. It was a business transaction as well as a social one. If you were lucky the two partners also loved each other. Since we've changed to a purely romantic view of marriage, many things don't make sense to us anymore. A combination of all if the above would be best.
Sorry to hear that. Heartbreaking.
Thanks. Yeah, she didn't have a good track record for picking husbands, but #1 and #2 were good souls with a lot to offer if they hadn't been sidetracked by their addictions.
Ultralight
5-4-16, 12:53pm
Step parenting and foster parenting are similar. You do it cause you've fallen in love with kids. I love my two foster grandkids just as much as I love my bio grandson. If a tragedy occurs, my husband and I are guardians of our grandson. At this point I would also request to keep the foster kids and raise them too, adopting them if that's how their cases turn out in court.
:+1:
Good boys get a raw deal?
Not from the sort of partners a Good Boy would want, no.
Teacher Terry
5-4-16, 12:59pm
I had an early first marriage that did not work out. My 2nd hubby was 8 years older then me and adopted my son who was 3 at the time and we went on to have 2 more children. My oldest considers him his Dad and no one else. When I married my 3rd hubby my kids were grown but his were much younger. His youngest moved in with us and I helped raise him. That is what families do.
I had an early first marriage that did not work out. My 2nd hubby was 8 years older then me and adopted my son who was 3 at the time and we went on to have 2 more children. My oldest considers him his Dad and no one else. When I married my 3rd hubby my kids were grown but his were much younger. His youngest moved in with us and I helped raise him. That is what families do.
Some families do...
Teacher Terry
5-4-16, 1:00pm
I think Cruz should have hung it and Kaisch drop out. They just handed it to that nut job. But he is probably easier to beat I guess.
I think Cruz should have hung it and Kaisch drop out. They just handed it to that nut job. But he is probably easier to beat I guess.
I am imagining a USA where Trump is president. :doh:but also :cool: and this too: :help:
I am imagining a USA where Trump is president. :doh:but also :cool: and this too: :help:
I am imagining some old white guys sitting around a table 200+ years ago saying "hey, let's put some checks-and-balances in this sucker" as they were scribbling away.
The President isn't the king, thank goodness, and unless he overthrows the constitutional government of this country has quite limited powers if the rest of our representative government and judiciary don't want to follow his lead.
If Trump or Sanders win, the fact that they are both basically outsiders I suspect will save us. Of the three remaining candidates, Hillary is the one most likely to be able to get major policy changes through Congress, but while she talks a progressive game, I doubt she'll do much at all, she's too much a part of the system.
Let one hundred flowers bloom...
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-5/mswv5_58.htm
Of the three remaining candidates, Hillary is the one most likely to be able to get major policy changes through Congress, but while she talks a progressive game, I doubt she'll do much at all, she's too much a part of the system.
Agree.
Mr. Boring's quittin' speech sure was boring.
I boring really such a bad thing?
No, if the policy ideas are good and dude is effective.
Make America boring again!
Williamsmith
5-5-16, 7:51pm
Mr. Boring has a chance to be your next Vice President. Ohio is a must win.
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