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Ultralight
11-1-16, 1:17pm
Milo Yiannopoulos (aka: "The Dangerous "-aggot") is coming to OSU on Friday to give one of his talks.
Often campuses erupt into mayhem when he gives his talks, or students go running for their safe spaces.
There is a $5 security fee to attend, though the tickets themselves are free.
It is open to the public.
I think both inside and outside of the event could be quite the spectacle of First Amendment fun. Thoughts?
I was unaware of this person's existence until this thread.
Ultralight
11-1-16, 1:40pm
I was unaware of this person's existence until this thread.
Very cool!
I was unaware of this person's existence until this thread.
+1
Isn't he a sort of millennial Ann Coulter who makes his living by offending against liberal sensibilities?
ApatheticNoMore
11-1-16, 2:49pm
Probably famous for being famous, something he is decided is an easier route to $$$ than getting a job. A speech not a debate (where he might be challenged) mind you, interesting that isn't it.
Ultralight
11-1-16, 2:49pm
Isn't he a sort of millennial Ann Coulter who makes his living by offending against liberal sensibilities?
Maybe...
He is more of a free speech/1st Amendment advocate. Though he is much the provocateur! I disagree with many of his political ideas. But I am curious to hear some of his explanations.
He is a harsh critic of safe spaces, trigger warnings, and Islam. He is an editor/journalist at that conservative rag called Breitbart. He is also gay (with a black boyfriend), a poet, a practicing Catholic, and a theatre enthusiast.
Sounds worth five bucks. Pro wrestling costs a lot more than that.
Sounds worth five bucks. Pro wrestling costs a lot more than that.
I think it'd be more fun to go to the Columbus zoo though.
I was unaware of this person's existence until this thread.
I wish I could say the same.
freshstart
11-1-16, 4:43pm
+2
Ultralight
11-6-16, 7:17pm
I went and saw Milo's talk at OSU.
And I can tell you...
Strange days are upon us!
He makes the liberals I know just itch like crazy. He's gay, which *should* put him in their camp, per their thinking. But he's also pro-2nd Amendment, which makes them nuts.
He makes the liberals I know just itch like crazy. He's gay, which *should* put him in their camp, per their thinking. But he's also pro-2nd Amendment, which makes them nuts.
I would think it would be in the self-interest of non-straight folks to have access to effective means of self-defense. No matter what their politics.
I would think it would be in the self-interest of non-straight folks to have access to effective means of self-defense. No matter what their politics.
You would think so, but that's usually not the case. Milo was showing a combination of the Gadsden flag and the rainbow flag after Orlando that someone had come up with. The reactions to it were very divided, as you would expect.
Ultralight
11-6-16, 8:58pm
Milo is very critical of Islam. One of his main reasons for this is that he is gay. Apparently Islamic nations/cultures have a tendency to hate and harm gays.
Milo also wants to silence trigger warnings, close safe spaces, and turn all public universities into free speech zones. Well, he basically thinks that the 1st Amendment is a big deal and that we should use it often and dang near everywhere.
This is what I gathered from his talk.
He is also pro-Trump all the way. haha
Interesting factoid:
When I was waiting (like 2 hours!) in line to go into Milo's speech a passerby asked one of the events organizers who Milo was. The organizer was a female student, probably about 21 years old. The passerby was also a student, a guy about 18 or 19. The passerby said: "Who is Milo?"
The organizer was sort of caught off guard by the question. So I jumped in and said: "Milo is a provocateur."
The organizer then said: "Yes! Exactly. He is a Trigger King!"
I think this is slang for someone who triggers lots of SJWs
ApatheticNoMore
11-7-16, 12:01pm
Milo is very critical of Islam. One of his main reasons for this is that he is gay. Apparently Islamic nations/cultures have a tendency to hate and harm gays.
ok this is ok from a personal perspective (one day taking a walk I saw a few Muslim girls and one Muslim boy - all teenage, the girls dressed in full burka pitch black, the guy dressed like any non-Muslim American teenager, jeans and t-shirt - it does not leave a positive impression.) But ALL of that seems to pale in comparison to the damage U.S. military policy has done to the middle east which is what anti-Muslim stuff fuels and enables, this dehumanizing the "enemy". So Milo believes it's all about him. Hmm that seems a common affliction these days this "it's all about me-ness". But anti-Muslim sentiment is used for MUCH larger geopolitical aims (and as a side effect of course it also makes life less safe for Muslims in our community who yes are often very nice people). He likely knows this but if he doesn't he's a pawn, a useful idiot, a tool.
Ultralight
11-7-16, 12:44pm
You might find it worthwhile to watch some of his talks on youtube.
You might find it worthwhile to watch some of his talks on youtube.
Quite a showman, isn't he?
I didn't get the sense of him being a tool of an American Military Industrial conspiracy, all though I did get the impression that he sees the promotional value of raising hackles.
ApatheticNoMore
11-7-16, 1:21pm
If he acknowledges the full history of U.S. wars in the middle east (many quite recent) - and that after a long colonial history of many other colonial powers in the middle east, of U.S. and allies promotion at times of the most extreme versions of Islam and overthrow of secular leaders in the middle east (not always good leaders but relatively secular that has been going on for over 60 years) while allying with extremist like Saudi Arabia who yes do seem to have done 9-11 .... but he also doesn't like Islam as an ideology then maybe.
He doesn't pass my simple living test. Here's what he was wearing when he gave that speech:
MILO wears bespoke blazer, $799. Jeans by Robin’s Jeans, $975. T-shirt in sand by Daniel Patrick, $75. Sneakers: 13 Jordans by Nike, $140. Eyewear by Versace, $320. Chains: model’s own.
He doesn't pass my simple living test. Here's what he was wearing when he gave that speech:
MILO wears bespoke blazer, $799. Jeans by Robin’s Jeans, $975. T-shirt in sand by Daniel Patrick, $75. Sneakers: 13 Jordans by Nike, $140. Eyewear by Versace, $320. Chains: model’s own.
I often wonder who buys these things. I was looking at a $14,000 Bernina this morning. What could the overpriced versions do to be worth the extra money? It remains a mystery to me. $1000 jeans? Hahaha!
I see they cancelled his engagement at Berkeley when some sort of local Brownshirt-type group reacted violently. The Atlantic published a piece to the effect that he tested progressives and they failed.
He must be very pleased. You don't see many people who can monetize hatred like that.
I see they cancelled his engagement at Berkeley when some sort of local Brownshirt-type group reacted violently. The Atlantic published a piece to the effect that he tested progressives and they failed.
He must be very pleased. You don't see many people who can monetize hatred like that.
He is sleaze bag. But... here is something interesting. I am actually giving a presentation on Milo tomorrow in my Cultural Competence Social Work class.
I have no idea how to react. But the professor suggested I give a trigger-warning in case topics related to Milo trigger anyone's past trauma.
But my position in the presentation is that free speech is amaze-balls and that if we disagree with the Milos of the world we should square off with them Firing Line style and actually debate.
I think the regressive left/control left/illiberal left might shout me down in class though, or deem hate speech the equivalent of physical violence. Anyway, I think it will be an interesting conversation.
He is sleaze bag. But... here is something interesting. I am actually giving a presentation on Milo tomorrow in my Cultural Competence Social Work class.
I have no idea how to react. But the professor suggested I give a trigger-warning in case topics related to Milo trigger anyone's past trauma.
But my position in the presentation is that free speech is amaze-balls and that if we disagree with the Milos of the world we should square off with them Firing Line style and actually debate.
I think the regressive left/control left/illiberal left might shout me down in class though, or deem hate speech the equivalent of physical violence. Anyway, I think it will be an interesting conversation.
Do you even need to quote him in any way? The interesting phenomenon isn't his ideas, such as they are, but the mindset and ideology that feels justified to stoop to such ugly means to deny him a hearing.
Do you even need to quote him in any way? The interesting phenomenon isn't his ideas, such as they are, but the mindset and ideology that feels justified to stoop to such ugly means to deny him a hearing.
Well, I have to hand out a news article or two about him to everyone in the class. I actually think that they will suspect that I am some sort of Milo-sympathizer. I am white. I have a shaved head. I defend free speech and civility.
But I am many things he profoundly dislikes -- liberal, an atheist, a bicyclist, just to name a few.
Robert Reich has an interesting theory--that the "rioters" were working for/with Breitbart. That makes perfect sense to me. Kind of like the Reichstag fire. It's all falling into place.
If the inevitable protesters were smart, when the black shirts show up for this event, they would detain them and turn them over to campus police rather than letting them wreck property.
For the Berkeley event, protests went on peacefully for hours until another small group showed up and started smashing and burning stuff.
iris lilies
2-4-17, 10:49am
He doesn't pass my simple living test. Here's what he was wearing when he gave that speech:
MILO wears bespoke blazer, $799. Jeans by Robin’s Jeans, $975. T-shirt in sand by Daniel Patrick, $75. Sneakers: 13 Jordans by Nike, $140. Eyewear by Versace, $320. Chains: model’s own.
Is he supposed to pass to pass a "simple living test?" That seems incongruous with who he is.
Robert Reich has an interesting theory--that the "rioters" were working for/with Breitbart. That makes perfect sense to me. Kind of like the Reichstag fire. It's all falling into place.
The Big Lie is a perennial favorite. As is the Outside Agitator excuse the University is offering.
My view is that the College Republicans thought they could raise a stir with a click-baiting idiot, local leftist idiots obliged them with Pavlovian predictability, and a gutless school administration reacted as gutless school administrations do.
It's fairly common for one's favorite explanation to fit into their desired worldview, for whatever worldview they may have. Perhaps time will tell what the truth in this particular situation actually is, or perhaps Kellyanne Conway will run her mouth about it so we can at least figure out what the lie is.
It's fairly common for one's favorite explanation to fit into their desired worldview, for whatever worldview they may have. Perhaps time will tell what the truth in this particular situation actually is, or perhaps Kellyanne Conway will run her mouth about it so we can at least figure out what the lie is.
She reminds me of that Iraqi spokesman during the Gulf War, describing how the allied forces were being slaughtered even as they were outside his window.
Well, my presentation in class was... interesting. And so were the reactions...
Funny. Or sad. But no one mentioned the first amendment or free speech. No one but me, and that was at the very end. Even then, when reminded of the existence of free speech, did anyone take the side of free speech.
Which is worse? Trump's America or the America of the ControLeft?
Well, my presentation in class was... interesting. And so were the reactions...
Funny. Or sad. But no one mentioned the first amendment or free speech. No one but me, and that was at the very end. Even then, when reminded of the existence of free speech, did anyone take the side of free speech.
Which is worse? Trump's America or the America of the ControLeft?
When you're a true believer, all that matters is the outcome you think you want.
The means are mere detail.
gimmethesimplelife
2-4-17, 4:13pm
I was unaware of this person's existence until this thread.He's a big deal on mgtow.com, which is a site for mostly straight men who feel burned by feminism and by the family court system and interestingly enough, he's flamingly gay AND very anti-feminist AND very much for standing up for the rights as he sees it of straight men. I find him interesting in the sense that he's self made and he's a bit of a walking, talking contradiction. If anyone is interested, his talks can be found on youtube. I don't know what to make of him but he does draw in the crowds. Rob
iris lilies
2-4-17, 6:33pm
Well, my presentation in class was... interesting. And so were the reactions...
Funny. Or sad. But no one mentioned the first amendment or free speech. No one but me, and that was at the very end. Even then, when reminded of the existence of free speech, did anyone take the side of free speech.
Which is worse? Trump's America or the America of the ControLeft?
today I made a small donation to the ACLU, reminded of the importance of free speech by Milo and his troubles in CAlifornia. It has been decades since I donated to that organization, and I know they carry ot a fair amount of work that I am philosophically opposed to, but they are great at defending free speech.
The ACLU speaks out against zones of silence on college campuses, recognizjg (as rational adults do) that there is a difference between behavior and words. Making college campuses a zone safe from any hurtful words is not something the ACLU supports.
today I made a small donation to the ACLU, reminded of the importance of free speech by Milo and his troubles in CAlifornia. It has been decades since I donated to that organization, and I know they carry ot a fair amount of work that I am philosophically opposed to, but they are great at defending free speech.
The ACLU speaks out against zones of silence on college campuses, recognizjg (as rational adults do) that there is a difference between behavior and words. Making college campuses a zone safe from any hurtful words is not something the ACLU supports.
From an AP article on Yahoo:
"Anthony Romero, the executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union, said he hired 30 new employees following the election, including three new immigration lawyers since Trump signed the refugee ban. He said the organization has raised more than $24 million in that same one-week stretch."
I thought you said it was a SMALL donation, IL!! ;)
I agree with both you and UA on the free speech thing. We are just more and more in silos, protected by rigid ideology on both sides. I blame social media to a large extent.
Here is the most frightening thing from class:
Someone in class said Milo and people like him are terrorists. And most folks agreed.
I cannot help but think that this is insane when groups like Islamic State are out there torturing, beheading, burning people alive, and so forth.
I will say that I caught most of my classmates in a gotcha moment though when we talked about "hatespeech."
I said: "Suppose some white supremacist on campus said something horrible like, 'All immigrants should be forced to drink boiling water.' Would that be hate speech that should be banned?"
They seemed to think it should be.
Then I said: "The Quran says very clearly that unbelievers and polytheists should be forced to drink boiling water. Does that mean we should remove all copies of the Quran from campus?"
Gotcha moment ensued.
Given the existing US Constitution and the Supreme Court's interpretation of the 1st Amendment, how precisely would you go about "banning" "hate speech" in the US?
Given the existing US Constitution and the Supreme Court's interpretation of the 1st Amendment, how precisely would you go about "banning" "hate speech" in the US?
Banning "hate speech," I think, would be creating a monster you have to continually feed your civil liberty to.
Given the existing US Constitution and the Supreme Court's interpretation of the 1st Amendment, how precisely would you go about "banning" "hate speech" in the US?
I think the current government might make a go of it, hate speech = speech the administration does not want to see, maybe something like the Sedition Act?
I think the current government might make a go of it, hate speech = speech the administration does not want to see, maybe something like the Sedition Act?
Not going to work, unless the Supreme Court reverses its stance on the 1st Amendment.
He's a big deal on mgtow.com, which is a site for mostly straight men who feel burned by feminism and by the family court system and interestingly enough, he's flamingly gay AND very anti-feminist AND very much for standing up for the rights as he sees it of straight men. I find him interesting in the sense that he's self made and he's a bit of a walking, talking contradiction. If anyone is interested, his talks can be found on youtube. I don't know what to make of him but he does draw in the crowds. Rob
You hear people calling him fascist all the time, but it seems to me that back in the thirties and forties he would be the sort of fellow they'd be sending to the camps.
You hear people calling him fascist all the time, but it seems to me that back in the thirties and forties he would be the sort of fellow they'd be sending to the camps.
That's probably part of his appeal. He doesn't fit a typical mold--kind of like the Erin Brockovich of the alt-right.
That's probably part of his appeal. He doesn't fit a typical mold--kind of like the Erin Brockovich of the alt-right.
People do love a freak show.
In further Milo news, a student group at Santa Clara University gets denied "official status" in part for fear they might invite him on campus.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/444684/campus-capitalist-group-denied-official-status-santa-clara-university
Would you call that meta-censorship?
You hear people calling him fascist all the time, but it seems to me that back in the thirties and forties he would be the sort of fellow they'd be sending to the camps.
There was a group back then - German Jews for Hitler. They thought their nationalism trumped that they were Jewish. They were wrong.
iris lilies
2-8-17, 11:37am
In further Milo news, a student group at Santa Clara University gets denied "official status" in part for fear they might invite him on campus.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/444684/campus-capitalist-group-denied-official-status-santa-clara-university
Would you call that meta-censorship?
Haha. or prophylactic censorship. Cant let that cancer of capitalism spread.
today I made a small donation to the ACLU, reminded of the importance of free speech by Milo and his troubles in CAlifornia. It has been decades since I donated to that organization, and I know they carry ot a fair amount of work that I am philosophically opposed to, but they are great at defending free speech.
The ACLU speaks out against zones of silence on college campuses, recognizjg (as rational adults do) that there is a difference between behavior and words. Making college campuses a zone safe from any hurtful words is not something the ACLU supports.
It seems we have much more important things to protest these days than a male version of Ann Coulter. Let him speak to his base without rewarding him with protest. I think the best thing the Left could do where he's concerned is ignore him.
I'm with you, Iris Lily--I upped my donation to the ACLU, too. I don't always agree with them, but someone needs to defend civil liberties while we still have a few, so I pungled up some money for the cause.
iris lilies
2-8-17, 12:53pm
The Big Lie is a perennial favorite. As is the Outside Agitator excuse the University is offering.
My view is that the College Republicans thought they could raise a stir with a click-baiting idiot, local leftist idiots obliged them with Pavlovian predictability, and a gutless school administration reacted as gutless school administrations do.
Well, the problem is that gutless administrations have to fund the aftermath of rioting. Theyve gotta fix buildings that get trashed. Theyve gotta protect students' physical safety. They probably received advice from safety and law enforcement professionals who ALWAYS advise remove the source of violence, dont hold the event. Cops always advocate stopping potential conflicts before they erupt, that is their job and it is a one sided view. Their feet on the ground approach doesnt do much for civil liberties.
It seems we have much more important things to protest these days than a male version of Ann Coulter. Let him speak to his base without rewarding him with protest. I think the best thing the Left could do where he's concerned is ignore him...
Milo is better looking than Ann. Here is my DH wih Ann, below
Well, the problem is that gutless administrations have to fund the aftermath of rioting. Theyve gotta fix buildings that get trashed. Theyve gotta protect students' physical safety. They probably received advice from safety and law enforcement professionals who ALWAYS advise remove the source of violence, dont hold the event. Cops always advocate stopping potential conflicts before they erupt, that is their job and it is a one sided view. Their feet on the ground approach doesnt do much for civil liberties.
But in this case, wasn't the source of violence the people doing the assault and arson? If all it takes is the threat of violence to shut someone up, doesn't that create a sort of thug's veto?
Milo is better looking than Ann. Here is my DH wih Ann, below
She was great in Sharknado 3.
Ultralight
2-21-17, 7:27am
Milo has just totally crashed and burned. :)
One less walking, talking cesspool of bad ideas to deal with.
Milo is better looking than Ann. Here is my DH wih Ann, below
Hahaha! I finally saw a picture of him, and I immediately thought the same thing.
iris lilies
2-21-17, 2:30pm
Hahaha! I finally saw a picture of him, and I immediately thought the same thing.
Yo have to admit, he is pretty forgeous. Not my type, but his looks help him in the media game.
UL why has he crashed and burned? Did something happen?
Teacher Terry
2-21-17, 2:34pm
IL: you haven't been watching the news I see.
iris lilies
2-21-17, 3:16pm
IL: you haven't been watching the news I see.
I heard something yesterday about Milo talking about men and boys, but I didn't know what it was all about.
I know several men in my neighborhood who would agree with Milo, even now that they are out of jail.
Ultralight
2-21-17, 5:58pm
Milo apparently resigned from Breitbart today but was promptly hired by The Vatican.
Here's what he said at his press conference on the matter:
STATEMENT DELIVERED AT PRESS CONFERENCE 2/21/07
I am a gay man, and a child abuse victim.
Between the ages of 13 and 16, two men touched me in ways they should not have. One of those men was a priest.
My relationship with my abusers is complicated by the fact that, at the time, I did not perceive what was happening to me as abusive. I can look back now and see that it was. I still don’t view myself as a victim. But I am one.
Looking back, I can see the effects it had on me. In the years after what happened, I fell into alcohol and nihilistic partying that lasted well into my late 20s.
A few years ago I realised it was time to do something good with my life. I started focusing on work. But the black comedy, gallows humor and love of shock value I developed in my 20s did not go away.
I've reviewed the tapes that appeared last night in their proper full context and I don't believe they say what is being reported. Nonetheless I do say some things on the tapes that I do not mean and which do not reflect my views.
My experiences as a victim led me to believe I could say anything I wanted to on this subject, no matter how outrageous. But I understand that my usual blend of British sarcasm, provocation and gallows humor might have come across as flippancy, a lack of care for other victims or, worse, "advocacy." I am horrified by that impression.
I would like to restate my disgust at adults who sexually abuse minors. I am horrified by pedophilia and I have devoted large portions of my career as a journalist to exposing child abusers. I've outed three of them, in fact -- three more than most of my critics.
And I've repeatedly expressed disgust at pedophilia in my feature and opinion writing. I was also the first journalist in the UK to ask after Jimmy Savile’s death whether the real story of his rampant child abuse would ever be told. My professional record is very clear.
But I do understand that the videos you have seen, even though some of them were deceptively edited, paint a different picture. I am partly to blame.
I do not advocate for illegal behavior. I explicitly say on the tapes, in a section that was cut from the footage you have seen, that I think the current age of consent is "about right." I do not believe any change in the the legal age of consent is justifiable or desirable.
I do not believe sex with 13-year-olds is okay. When I mentioned the number 13, I was talking about myself, and the age I lost my own virginity.
I shouldn't have used the word "boy" -- which gay men often do to describe young men of consenting age -- instead of "young man." That was an error. I was talking about my own relationship when I was 17 with a man who was 29. The age of consent in the UK is 16.
I did say that there are relationships between younger men and older men that can help a young gay man escape from a lack of support or understanding at home. That's perfectly true and every gay man knows it.
I am certainly guilty of imprecise language, which I regret.
Anyone who suggests I turn a blind eye to illegal activity or to the abuse of minors is unequivocally wrong. I am implacably opposed to the normalization of pedophilia and I will continue to report and speak accordingly. To repeat: I do not support pedophilia. It is a disgusting crime of which I have personally been a victim.
The remarks I made on podcasts and interviews more than a year ago were about my personal life experiences. I will not apologize for dealing with my life experiences in the best way that I can, which is humor. No one can tell me or anyone else who has lived through sexual abuse how to deal with those emotions.
But I am sorry to other abuse victims if my own personal way of dealing with what happened to me has hurt you.
I will never stop making jokes about taboo subjects. Go into any drag bar or gay club and you will see performers cracking jokes about clerical sexual abuse. I am not afforded that same freedom, because the media chooses to selectively define me as a political figure in some circumstances, and a comedian in others.
But I said some things on those internet live streams that were simply wrong.
My employer Breitbart News has stood by me when others caved. They have allowed me to carry conservative and libertarian ideas to communities that would otherwise never have heard them. They have been a significant factor in my success. I’m grateful for that freedom and for the friendships I forged there.
I would be wrong to allow my poor choice of words to detract from my colleagues’ important reporting, which is why today I am resigning from Breitbart, effective immediately. This decision is mine alone.
When your friends have done right by you, you do right by them. For me, now, that means stepping aside so my colleagues at Breitbart can get back to the great work they do.
My book, Dangerous, has received interest from publishers after my previous publisher Simon and Schuster informed me they no longer wished to release it. The book will come out this year as planned. I will be donating 10 per cent of my royalties to child sex abuse charities.
I haven’t ever apologized before. Name-calling doesn’t bother me. But to be a victim of child abuse and for the media to call me an apologist for child abuse is absurd.
I regret the things I said. I don't think I've been as sorry about anything in my whole life. This isn't how I wanted my parents to find out about this.
But let's be clear what is happening here. This is a cynical media witch hunt from people who don't care about children. They care about destroying me and my career, and by extension my allies. They know that although I made some outrageous statements, I've never actually done anything wrong. These videos have been out there for more than a year. The media held this story back because they don't care about victims, they only care about bringing me down. They will fail.
I will be announcing a new, independently-funded media venture of my own and a live tour in the coming weeks.
I started my career as a technology reporter who wrote about politics but I have since become something else. I am a performer with millions of fans in America and beyond. I’m grateful for the tens of thousands of messages of support I’ve received and I look forward to making you all laugh, cry and think for many decades to come.
My full focus is now going to be on entertaining and educating everyone, left, right and otherwise. If you want to brand or stereotype me, good luck with that.
Don’t think for a moment that this will stop me being as offensive, provocative and outrageously funny as I want on any subject I want. America has a colossal free speech problem. The land of the First Amendment has some of the most oppressive social restrictions on free expression anywhere in the western world. I’m proud to be a warrior for free speech and creative expression.
I want everyone in America, the greatest country in the history of human civilisation, to be able to be, do, read and say anything. I will never stop fighting for your right to do that.
Thank you. I will take 5 questions.
Milo apparently resigned from Breitbart today but was promptly hired by The Vatican.
Dang. Your sense of humor is even darker than mine... :)
Williamsmith
2-22-17, 12:11am
Sometimes you can learn a little about a person by examining another person who has gone through similar circumstances. I basically learned how to get people to tell me things they didn't want to tell me....by studying other people involved in similar circumstances.
So I will start off telling you, I know a little about the sexual abuse of minors. I qualified as an expert in Commonwealth Court. It is common for child victims to mature into abusers themselves. Not always. Nothing is always. Jerry Sandusky, the Penn State Coach who was arrested for child sexual assault and who brought down that whole football program with him including Joe Paterno....had an adopted son. He was just arrested for pedophilia.
I have no clue if Milo is telling the truth about being molested as an adolescent. But if he is, his personality and his activity is consistent with that experience.
A comedian named Barry Crimmins said, "You can't hate anybody, until you hate yourself."
Netflix has a documentary on Barry. I don't always see eye to eye on his politics. You have to sometimes look past that and his vulgarity in order to learn the lesson he has taught in living his very tortured life. There is a little of Barry in everyone...certainly in me....but I suspect there is a lot of Barry in Milo.
The documentary is called "Call Me Lucky." It is easier to make people just plain evil or stupid than to understand what makes them what they are. To me it is just part of learning how to keep from being manipulated, by others and of course by myself.
Thanks, William, I will look for that documentary. I have Netflix, so I should be able to find it. It sounds interesting, and I agree with you, we all need to better understand others and what makes them do what they do.
I live under a rock it appears. I had zero idea who he was when he became the news of the day. I had to google to read background. Read it, scanned a few articles and deleted him from my mind.
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