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This is what I heard when I listened to the President Elect speak today. I guess I thought there should have been a few WE the American People. I guess it makes it simple when he is going to do it all.:(
Trump sounds like people I have not wanted to buy a car from.
We've gotten accustomed to narcissists in the White House and shouldn't be surprised.
frugal-one
1-11-17, 9:11pm
Trump is the biggest narcissist ever seen!
iris lilies
1-11-17, 9:56pm
I listened to his press conference on the radio and heard most of it, 'though I skipped some at the end. I liked t!
Since he was addressing issues that centered on he himself, it seems logical that he talked about himself. Those issues included:
1) his relationship with Russia, where he said that he would probably get along well with Putin but who knows, maybe not, stay tuned
2) the attempt to smear him with a charge that Russia has blackmail material on him--and we learned that he would never participate in sexual golden showers because he has a germ phobia, haha
3) he has many many many busness interests, so many, and they will be neatly and tidily rolled up into a trust where his sons and a trusted adviser will run them during his Presidency. This was a looooooong speech delivered by his attorney. But it was good information, and in it we learned that when foreign governments stay at a Trump hotel, tat money will go nto U.S. Coffers. This is done to avoid conflicts of interest and to flag foreign governments that they wont gain anything by using Trump businesses.
4) he wont take questions from the CNN reporters because they work for a crappy news organization (calling them out, I liked that!)
The one piece of braggadocio I heard was his comment that a wealthy Arab businessman offered him $2 billion to do a deal recently, but Trump turned it down to a oid conflict of nterest. Since this was related to his topic today, which was about Trump's businesses, the billion dollar deal was sort of on point, but was still delivered in the stream of consciousness style of D. Trump, President elect of the United States which always sounds braggy.
We've gotten accustomed to narcissists in the White House and shouldn't be surprised.
Have we? I suppose most presidents are confident--except poor Nixon, who seemingly had a persecution complex. I haven't seen an outright narcissist until Trump. President Obama was a class act; I miss him already.
I have never known Mr. Obama to shrink from self-praise where the felt self-praise was due. Nor has he seemed reluctant to explain to us how world events fit into the greater context of his personal narrative. I understand some reporters have counted up every use of "I", "me" and "my" in his speeches and compared that unfavorably to his predecessors. That seems a little petty to me, however, because it could simply be the result of hiring overly sycophantic speechwriters.
He certainly seems to have difficulty concealing his disdain for the obdurate ignorance of people he sees as failing to understand the great things he wished to accomplish.
Where were the counters when Bush 43 was proclaiming himself the "Decider?" I've always found President Obama confident but self-effacing. His detractors will always view him differently, including those who made up absurd fictions in order to discredit him.
As far as the great things he wished to accomplish, like protecting the environment and keeping us out of unnecessary wars, and working toward a fossil-fuel free future (among others), those are among the goals I applaud too. As I said, I will miss him.
Trump sounds like people I have not wanted to buy a car from.
He lies constantly, and then denies lying when he's called on it. He represents the worst stereotype of the salesman who will tell you whatever you want to hear to close the deal. And a lot of people, observing him, his incessant lying, his overweening ego, his belligerence and loose ethics and ties to white nationalist groups decided he's their guy--Trump uber alles. I thought it was pure hyberbole when he proclaimed "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," but now I think it was true.
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Obama, Bush, and Hillary are history and comparisons are pretty much just academic. Fact is we are stuck with Trump and his minions for the immediate future. In spite of his self-centered egotistical persona I honestly believe he thinks he can bring more life to the American economy much in the way he has run his business. His motives are not entirely self-centered. That said, he's just not qualified for the job either emotionally, ethically or intellectually. My mentality is way foreign to anyone having billions and interested in more empire building solely for the accumulation of wealth, power and the challenge.
Obama, Bush, and Hillary are history and comparisons are pretty much just academic. Fact is we are stuck with Trump and his minions for the immediate future. In spite of his self-centered egotistical persona I honestly believe he thinks he can bring more life to the American economy much in the way he has run his business. His motives are not entirely self-centered. That said, he's just not qualified for the job either emotionally, ethically or intellectually. My mentality is way foreign to anyone having billions and interested in more empire building solely for the accumulation of wealth, power and the challenge.
I don't think he's the business success he fancies himself; I guess he's kept his head above water, proving that to the rich, bankruptcies don't matter much.
https://swordattheready.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/obamamandelanarcissist.jpg?w=500 (http://www.simplelivingforum.net/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiGwr_qj73RAhUlzoMKHYiABGUQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fswordattheready.wordpress.com%2F tag%2Fnarcissist%2F&psig=AFQjCNHRhmeqsAtGlZyVNuNdyTzj49c5Dw&ust=1484318207432777)
I wouldn't pay much attention to the Spoon--a quick perusal via Google reveals it only exists to distort the news in favor of right-wingers. Suggesting President Obama is a communist, for example.
I wouldn't pay much attention to the Spoon--a quick perusal via Google reveals it only exists to distort the news in favor of right-wingers. Suggesting President Obama is a communist, for example.I never heard of it before today but thanks for the report. ;)
I never heard of it before today but thanks for the report. ;)
Yeah, me neither. Looks completely disreputable from here, natch.
Where were the counters when Bush 43 was proclaiming himself the "Decider?" I've always found President Obama confident but self-effacing. His detractors will always view him differently, including those who made up absurd fictions in order to discredit him.
Oh, they've always been there. I remember similar "analysis" of W., also throwing in malapropism counts for good measure. As far as making things up, we had Dan Rather's "fake but accurate" documents concerning W's military career. I see him occasionally on the cable news shows talking about the importance of truth.
I think all this stuff is just so much partisan static. Positions change when you switch from governing to opposition. I expect the Democrats to discover a newfound interest in federalism, States' rights and the filibuster in their new role. Paul Krugman has gone from urging us to "ignore the deficit scolds" in October to "deficits matter again" in January. As always, "one's principles depend on one's interests".
I listened to his press conference on the radio and heard most of it, 'though I skipped some at the end. I liked t!
Apparently Turkey's President Erdogan also liked it. And if anyone knows about how to put the press in their place it's him.
https://thinkprogress.org/worlds-top-jailer-of-journalists-praises-trump-for-putting-a-reporter-in-his-place-d43ba3de41f1#.a1ncm85os
freshstart
1-15-17, 3:59pm
Have we? I suppose most presidents are confident--except poor Nixon, who seemingly had a persecution complex. I haven't seen an outright narcissist until Trump. President Obama was a class act; I miss him already.
I didn't see a hint of narcissism in Obama and I too miss him very much, a class act indeed
I am for the first time in my entire life, scared of the future of/for the USA. I have never been political. I figured there were enough checks and balances to keep things in line. Every morning, I read/hear of another Country that is upset with Mr. Trump. I think oh goodness he is not even in office yet, what happens when he is? Or maybe this too shall pass and things will even out and everyone will be happy and get along and work together:doh:
I am for the first time in my entire life, scared of the future of/for the USA. I have never been political. I figured there were enough checks and balances to keep things in line. Every morning, I read/hear of another Country that is upset with Mr. Trump. I think oh goodness he is not even in office yet, what happens when he is? Or maybe this too shall pass and things will even out and everyone will be happy and get along and work together:doh:
I have the greatest confidence that the jackals will prevail--to their enrichment and the impoverishment of the rest of us. I hope I'm wrong.
gimmethesimplelife
1-15-17, 11:47pm
I have the greatest confidence that the jackals will prevail--to their enrichment and the impoverishment of the rest of us. I hope I'm wrong.Now strikes me as a good time to attempt to obtain a passport to another country....only problem is you need money, in some cases lots, in some cases not so much if you own a house and are above water.....not everyone has this however. I don't know what the future holds just like anyone else but my gut tells me major upheaval is in the future. I keep two bags packed, running cash locked up and my passport locked up but nearby just in case. I hope it doesn't get to this but once again, I don't know the future and what it holds. Rob
I don't think most people can have multiple passports, there are strict requirement in each country. The USA one is expensive to get too, plus a lot of paperwork.
IshbelRobertson
1-16-17, 5:35am
I know a few dual-nationality Americans here in the UK, Us and UK passport holders. I think that, at one time, the US frowned upon dualling their citizenship with any other nation.
Miss Cellane
1-16-17, 9:53am
I am for the first time in my entire life, scared of the future of/for the USA. I have never been political. I figured there were enough checks and balances to keep things in line. Every morning, I read/hear of another Country that is upset with Mr. Trump. I think oh goodness he is not even in office yet, what happens when he is? Or maybe this too shall pass and things will even out and everyone will be happy and get along and work together:doh:
I share your fears.
In past elections, the candidate I voted for didn't win, and while I was not happy, I was never afraid. The winning candidate might have policies I did not agree with, but I always trusted them to not bring actual harm to the US.
The president-elect is so vengeful, so impulsive, so petty, that there is no telling what he might do.
You know the people I feel for the most? The service people who are tasked with actually pushing the nuclear button. In past administrations, if that call had ever come, the person pushing the button would know that the decision had been discussed and thought about. That many people, all with their own area of expertise, had been consulted. That the decision had not been made in haste, but coldly and calmly deliberated. That if they were ordered to push that button, they could be sure that at the highest levels, the decision had not been made until every other option had been attempted. Now? There's no telling what might send the president-elect off and cause him to decide the nuclear option is the best one. The person pushing that button will have to follow orders, even if they are not sure it is the right order at the right time.
The president-elect claims to want to unify the country. Yet in his New Year's tweet, he referred to some portion of his fellow US citizens as "enemies."
He attacks when he should explain. He attempts distraction when he should be clear and open about his goals and plans. He tweets erroneous information* at the same time he complains about "false news."
He takes every single tiny negative thing said or done against him, and makes sure the entire world knows about it by tweeting hyperbole. He's about to become the president of the USA. He needs to accept that there will always be people who disagree with him. To set up childish vendettas against all of these people will take time and energy that would be better put to actually solving some of the problems in our country. Don't like getting spoofed by SNL? Maybe try behaving in such a way that there is nothing to spoof.
His staffers are currently saying that people need to respect him. You get respect when you *earn* respect.
His spin-control people tell us not to listen to his words, but to see what is in his heart. I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. But it does tell us that we can't trust the words our president-elect speaks and tweets.
The president-elect is currently threatening Congress with vague threats about what will happen if his health-care plan, which is still a complete mystery, is not passed as quickly as he wants. Mr. President-Elect, that is not how government works. We have three branches of government for a reason--checks and balances.
*His comments about John Lewis and Atlanta, for one example.
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