Sunday News Shows and Stephen Miller

[CathyA]

I like to watch the Sunday News shows........"This Week" and "Meet the Press". This morning they had Stephen Miller on (Senior Advisor to Trump). Wow......is he aggressive, a bit hostile, and a little scary, in terms of him being so forceful.....like almost everyone around Trump is.
What are your feelings about him? He's only about 31.

[iris lilies]

I havent seen him in action, I dont watch tv news shows.

[creaker]

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/johnwright/abc_host_shuts_down_trump_aide_on_voter_fraud_you_ have_provided_zero_evidence_thanks_for_joining_us

ABC Host Shuts Down Trump Adviser On Voter Fraud: "You Have Provided Zero Evidence. Thanks For Joining Us."

On this subject, I've only come across one case of media reported voter fraud myself - woman with green card in Texas, who voted for Trump. On the administration's viewpoint, it's like a store owner saying thousands of people are shoplifting in his stores every day - he hasn't caught anyone, or found any merchandise missing, or called the police to report it but he knows it's happening.

[Rogar]

I did see it and he was very aggressive and vitriolic over the judges and judicial system. I saw him as just another Trumpbot.

[CathyA]

It just drives me crazy when someone asks a person in government a question over and over, and they never give an answer to the question. It seems pretty common with all the Trump people now.
George Stephanopolos doesn't seem to get as riled up as Chuck Todd. I'm glad to see Chuck getting hot under the collar with some of these guys.
George kept up, though, continually asking Miller to give some evidence of voter fraud. It's always weird when they've been arguing, then have to be nice at the end and say "thanks for being with us". I'm sure they're thinking different thoughts!

[Alan]

On this subject, I've only come across one case of media reported voter fraud myself - woman with green card in Texas, who voted for Trump. On the administration's viewpoint, it's like a store owner saying thousands of people are shoplifting in his stores every day - he hasn't caught anyone, or found any merchandise missing, or called the police to report it but he knows it's happening.
I think the operative phrase there is "media reported". Locally, we have a long and distinguished history of voter fraud, the most memorable one involving a local Democratic Poll worker who voted multiple times for President Obama in 2012. http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/melowese-richardson-former-poll-worker-to-be-sentenced-on-four-counts-of-voter-fraud . She was sentenced to 5 years in prison but was released early. Afterwards when the local Democrats staged a public gathering in support of something or other they invited her to the stage to honor and "welcome her home" as some sort of hero figure.

As a rule, the media doesn't seem to bother with small scale fraud such as this, I guess under the premise that it has a negligible effect on elections. I'm not so sure that's true though. They also didn't take much interest in Al Franken's 312 vote margin of victory in his 2008 Senate election, even after it was discovered that approximately 400 of those votes were by felons unable to vote under Minnesota law. Localized small time fraud sometimes has national repercussions.

[jp1]

They also didn't take much interest in Al Franken's 312 vote margin of victory in his 2008 Senate election, even after it was discovered that approximately 400 of those votes were by felons unable to vote under Minnesota law. Localized small time fraud sometimes has national repercussions.

Actually it was 341 registered to vote. Assuming that they turned out to vote at the same rate and for the same candidates as the other residents of the two counties they resided in that would have amounted to 51 votes for Franken and almost the same for Coleman. But even if we fantasize that convicted felons are all smart enough not to vote Republican it wouldn't have been enough to flip the election unless they voted at much higher rates than the rest of the population, a highly unlikely occurrence.

[creaker]

I think the operative phrase there is "media reported". Locally, we have a long and distinguished history of voter fraud, the most memorable one involving a local Democratic Poll worker who voted multiple times for President Obama in 2012. http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/melowese-richardson-former-poll-worker-to-be-sentenced-on-four-counts-of-voter-fraud . She was sentenced to 5 years in prison but was released early. Afterwards when the local Democrats staged a public gathering in support of something or other they invited her to the stage to honor and "welcome her home" as some sort of hero figure.

As a rule, the media doesn't seem to bother with small scale fraud such as this, I guess under the premise that it has a negligible effect on elections. I'm not so sure that's true though. They also didn't take much interest in Al Franken's 312 vote margin of victory in his 2008 Senate election, even after it was discovered that approximately 400 of those votes were by felons unable to vote under Minnesota law. Localized small time fraud sometimes has national repercussions.

Well, the Federal Election Commission has repeatedly asked the administration to provide any information they have so that the allegations can be officially investigated. Given that all the FEC members terms have already expired (the last one will be in April), I expect Trump may be waiting until he can appoint a committee more in line to agree with him.

I did remember this little voting snafu for NH, although I don't know if you can call voters being prevented from voting voter fraud, but it was illegal:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/10/03/mystery-of-2002-gop-phone_n_67060.html