No Facts

[BikingLady]

Just a question I am wondering. How can the President "lie" or maybe a better phrase is send out statements that have no facts to back up and not be Impeached? The statements must need to be under oath?

The Cry Wolf effect has already affected me.

[LDAHL]

Well, Bill Clinton lied under oath, and we were told to "move on". So the bar must be pretty high.

[Rogar]

I would suppose it matters what he lies about and what his intentions are. I am beginning to think he does not have the ability to distinguish objective fact from a narcissistic fiction he creates.

[creaker]

Yesterday was interesting - during the hearings with the FBI director, Comey was questioned whether a tweet Trump sent during the hearing ("The NSA and FBI tell Congress that Russia did not influence electoral process.") was truthful - surprisingly it was not.

[frugal-one]

I think Trump uses these tactics as diversions when there are other more important things he does not want the media to dwell on.

[iris lilies]

I think Trump uses these tactics as diversions when there are other more important things he does not want the media to dwell on.
I wish I thought that, it would indicate careful thought and controlled communication from our President.

I am more inclined to agree with Roger.

[jp1]

I wish I thought that, it would indicate careful thought and controlled communication from our President.

I am more inclined to agree with Roger.

It's probably a little, ok a lot, of both.

[Tammy]

Unbridled narcissism.

[flowerseverywhere]

Clinton"I did not have sex with that woman"

Bush " there are weapons of mass destructions"

Obama " you can keep your doctor if you like your doctor"

Trump " the press is the enemy of the people except Breitbart and sometimes Fox, Germany owes NATO money, Obama "wiretapped"me, people coming over our southern border are rapists and murders, everyone will have greater coverage, more choice and have cheaper health care, I respect women, we did not collude with the Russians, I won by the biggest landslide, three million people voted illegally, I will appoint a special prosecutor to lock her up, Mexico will pay for a great big beautiful wall, It is not a Muslim ban and so on and on every single day"

take away the tweet machine and everything will run much smoother and less dramatically

[bae]

Just a question I am wondering. How can the President "lie" or maybe a better phrase is send out statements that have no facts to back up and not be Impeached? The statements must need to be under oath?


Is he under oath in a courtroom when he Tweets? No. What would you impeach him for? What law is he breaking?

[Rogar]

Some people think it is reason enough. I suppose if there is a case for him not living up to his sworn duty to protect and defend the constitution by wild abuse of power, or an issue of national security by being a pathological liar, then he could be committing "high crimes and misdemeanors". I think this is an impeachable issue. I actually think it is a big stretch.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/yes-trump-impeached-tweet/

[Teacher Terry]

I am really sick of the Trump circus at this point.

[BikingLady]

4 years of it ahead.

[MaryHu]

[QUOTE]Is he under oath in a courtroom when he Tweets? /QUOTE]

Exactly; he is not tweeting under oath. Every time he's been on the witness stand under oath in one of the many lawsuits against him he suddenly and conveniently looses his memory. His constant refrain is "I don't recall. I can't remember." (Even about facts which have multiple witnesses and solid documentation.) Because he knows he'd better not lie under oath. If he's not under oath, the sky is the limit as we have seen.

[iris lilies]

Yesterday was interesting - during the hearings with the FBI director, Comey was questioned whether a tweet Trump sent during the hearing ("The NSA and FBI tell Congress that Russia did not influence electoral process.") was truthful - surprisingly it was not.
But that tlweet Trump sent out about Obama electonically covering him during the campaign was true, as it turns put. comey admitted to it. mea Culpa, and I called the Pres cuckoo for it.

[creaker]

But that tlweet Trump sent out about Obama electonically covering him during the campaign was true, as it turns put. comey admitted to it. mea Culpa, and I called the Pres cuckoo for it.

During the Obama administration, yes - but the tweet he sent out was a bit misleading. It would be kind of like me saying Trump is currently investigating Russian ties to the election (which isn't true, the FBI is). And it kind of twisted sideways when he said England did it in collusion with Obama.

But considering the wiretap had to do with Russian mafia being set up in Trump Tower, I think it's more damning Trump than vindicating him.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story-fbi-wiretap-russians-trump-tower/story?id=46266198

[Alan]

But considering the wiretap had to do with Russian mafia being set up in Trump Tower, I think it's more damning Trump than vindicating him.

That was an entirely different investigation involving a tenant of Trump Tower and ended several years ago.

The current brouhaha involves several members of the Trump transition team's communications being recorded as part of other un-named investigations yet to be disclosed, although apparently involving foreigners. From what our various agency heads have told us, any American citizens surveilled during those investigations should be shielded, but that doesn't seem to have happened during these investigations. It appears that those conversations were passed around the various agencies and were leaked to other interested parties.

I call shenanigans.

[LDAHL]

That was an entirely different investigation involving a tenant of Trump Tower and ended several years ago.

The current brouhaha involves several members of the Trump transition team's communications being recorded as part of other un-named investigations yet to be disclosed, although apparently involving foreigners. From what our various agency heads have told us, any American citizens surveilled during those investigations should be shielded, but that doesn't seem to have happened during these investigations. It appears that those conversations were passed around the various agencies and were leaked to other interested parties.

I call shenanigans.

In some ways, such well-spun, elegant innuendo makes Trump's more blatant lies seem almost refreshing.

[Alan]

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-03-22/nunes-says-trump-team-communications-caught-in-u-s-surveillance

[MaryHu]

Have you seen the Time magazine interview he did recently? I think he is suffering from senile dementia. He cannot speak in coherent sentences or stay on any topic for more than a second. Help!
His parting words were
I guess, I can’t be doing so badly, because I’m president, and you’re not. You know. [/I]] Shades of Chevy Chase on SNL.

[iris lilies]

Have you seen the Time magazine interview he did recently? I think he is suffering from senile dementia. He cannot speak in coherent sentences or stay on any topic for more than a second. Help!
His parting words were
I guess, I can’t be doing so badly, because I’m president, and you’re not. You know. [/I]] Shades of Chevy Chase on SNL.








I thnk thats funny, actually.

one comedian I heard during the presidential campaign said that he believes Trump tries to be funny and lacks comedic timing.

[jp1]

And here's that interview when the lies get stripped out.

http://theslot.jezebel.com/we-redacted-everything-thats-not-a-verifiably-true-stat-1793571837

[JaneV2.0]

And here's that interview when the lies get stripped out.

http://theslot.jezebel.com/we-redacted-everything-thats-not-a-verifiably-true-stat-1793571837

This would be hilarious if it weren't so serious.
I may take up drinking...

[leslieann]

That's kind of cute actually. Trump disappoints me in his inarticulateness. There are many people who jump in to interpret him, and that contributes to the confusion.

[JaneV2.0]

But he has the best words!