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I was having a discussion about SJWs with an acquaintance the other day. It got me thinking about how an SJW is defined. So I thought I would crowdsource this here.
What would you consider an SJW?
I heard it described once as an adherent of totalitarian ideologies such as Cultural Marxism, responsible for turning academic institutions into ivy covered North Koreas.
I'll go with that.
Chicken lady
6-2-17, 8:24am
:)
sounds like "feminism". Such a good concept gone awry. Although, I'm not really a fan of justice - justice is when you get what you deserve and I'm more into mercy and grace.
Alan, I work at the food bank with a guy who thinks it's important for us to have semi automatic weapons because we might one day have to shoot the police. I can't figure out if he's a rabid conservative or liberal anarchist, but he spends hours every week carrying boxes that are too heavy for him so he can help give food to people who say they need it.
that seems like the front line to me.
Alan, I work at the food bank with a guy who thinks it's important for us to have semi automatic weapons because we might one day have to shoot the police.If those totalitarian ideologies gain traction beyond academia and internet discussion forums, who's to say he's not right?
ToomuchStuff
6-2-17, 10:24am
One other possible definition would be one who try's to publicly shame a person via social media, rather then actually having a discussion. I was reading about one of those the other day on another forum. Person tried to shame a coworker that said something they disagreed with and thought they "had more authority on it". They were proven wrong on the authority part, and when there was a meeting to discuss it, they decided not to stick around to solve it, as yoga was more important then the issue.
The most succint definition I've seen comes from an atheist web site.
"A social justice warrior is someone who actively condemns and seeks to harm those who express socio-political views contrary to his or her own while claiming to promote social justice."
http://www.atheistrev.com/2015/08/social-justice-warrior-brief-definition.html
Having defined bigotry down to a small (perhaps even trivial) level, their primary problem lies in a workable definition of "social justice". Is practicing yoga an indefensible cultural appropriation? Does a formerly male trans person benefit from male privilege? Is Newtonian physics oppressive to marginalized people? If these sort of questions arouse your fear and anger, you're probably a social justice warrior.
ApatheticNoMore
6-2-17, 10:32am
people that hardly seem to exist in real life but get talked about a lot on the internet as if they did. I think some of them may inhabit a place called "Twitter". Mostly a distraction from real power.
I do think what does actually exist are people whose main political issues are say racial issues and you could criticize them for narrow focus as they make ignore a lot of other issues.
Although, I'm not really a fan of justice - justice is when you get what you deserve and I'm more into mercy and grace.
what you deserve debates is very old, it's by no means what anyone gets now. A lot of such theories would find present arrangements highly unjust as too unequal etc..
Word policing
Tone policing
Maoist-style ziwo pipan
Lord of the Flies
Polezniye duraki
Word policing
Tone policing
Maoist-style ziwo pipan
Lord of the Flies
Polezniye duraki
Funny. When I hear Lord of the Flies, I think Republicans.
Chicken lady
6-2-17, 1:04pm
I think homeschooling. It was my favorite book to reference. When people said "But(don't) they need to be in groups of other children their age(?)!" I asked "you mean, like Lord of the Flies?"
Funny. When I hear Lord of the Flies, I think Republicans.
I think there's considerable shared behaviour.
I was having a discussion about SJWs with an acquaintance the other day. It got me thinking about how an SJW is defined. So I thought I would crowdsource this here.
What would you consider an SJW?
Not a phrase I actually use. Mostly when I've heard it, it seems to describe someone who is making efforts to change something in society that a) the speaker likes, or b) the speaker thinks is trivial.
:)
I work at the food bank with a guy who thinks it's important for us to have semi automatic weapons because we might one day have to shoot the police.
Have you suggested to him that perhaps he should carry a fully charged smartphone instead?
Chicken lady
6-2-17, 3:50pm
I'm pretty sure that in the vision in his head the smartphone will be useless. Who would you call anyway?
honestly, as someone who has never shot anything that was breathing, or anything at all for 34 years, he's the sort of guy I'd want at my side if the police were a threat to me.
he doesn't think we might have to shoot the police tomorrow, he's just thinking, how long do you wait? Because once you do have to shoot the police, it's going to be really hard to get the semiautomatic....
I'm pretty sure that in the vision in his head the smartphone will be useless. Who would you call anyway?
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The phone isn't for calling anyone, it's for taking video. That's how they do it in the 85006.
he doesn't think we might have to shoot the police tomorrow, he's just thinking, how long do you wait? Because once you do have to shoot the police, it's going to be really hard to get the semiautomatic....
Nah. Once you reach that point, the police and army have plenty of arms, and really nice ones at that. Easy enough to take theirs if for some reason you need one.
Chicken lady
6-2-17, 4:54pm
No one in his scenerio is going to want to see the video either. (Video of what? He's thinking more "revolutionary war", less "escalated riot")
Bae, I'm not sure what you think the word "easy" means -:laff:
gimmethesimplelife
6-2-17, 5:00pm
The phone isn't for calling anyone, it's for taking video. That's how they do it in the 85006.I love to see wisdom from the 85006 spreading beyond the boundaries of the 85006! Rob
I went to the range yesterday to try out a new .45 cal I got for my birthday. With the hangun I can hit a smart phone pretty much every time at 15yds. At 25 yds I can hit the person holding the smartphone pretty much every time. With a rifle the yardages go to 100 to hit the phone and 200 to hit the holder.
i need to start practicing. But my vision is just not as good as it use to be.
you never know when a mob of SJW might attack with their smartphones. And since they now make a gun that is shaped like a phone you have to assume they are armed.
With a rifle the yardages go to 100 to hit the phone and 200 to hit the holder.
i need to start practicing. But my vision is just not as good as it use to be.
An iPhone 7 is 5.44" x 2.64". You ought to be able to hit it out to ~264 yards with a simple MOA-capable rifle/cartridge combination. Probably twice that if you have a high precision instrument and good wind-reading skills, or if you are content to hit it in the longer dimension, assuming the hand holding it makes up for the narrow dimension.
More practice!
I went to the range yesterday to try out a new .45 cal I got for my birthday. With the hangun I can hit a smart phone pretty much every time at 15yds. At 25 yds I can hit the person holding the smartphone pretty much every time. With a rifle the yardages go to 100 to hit the phone and 200 to hit the holder.
i need to start practicing. But my vision is just not as good as it use to be.
you never know when a mob of SJW might attack with their smartphones. And since they now make a gun that is shaped like a phone you have to assume they are armed.
But you're gonna have to take out way more than one phone if you've got a mob of SJW's coming after you. Otherwise you've still got a mob minus one of video of you shooting their phones.
He's thinking more "revolutionary war", less "escalated riot:
I guess all I can say to him is good luck with that.
But you're gonna have to take out way more than one phone if you've got a mob of SJW's coming after you. Otherwise you've still got a mob minus one of video of you shooting their phones.
Well, as I think I've mentioned previously, after my Hazmat Operations/Technician training, my eyes have been opened as to the possibilities for being grumpy that are available in our highly technological society... Firearms are handy for immediate defense of self and others, but if you're going to be serious, think a bit more broadly...
I guess all I can say to him is good luck with that.
He might want to think a bit on what a "revolutionary war" would look like in a society like ours, where there aren't convenient dividing lines. It would make Sarajevo look like a summer lawn party. Who wants that?
An iPhone 7 is 5.44" x 2.64". You ought to be able to hit it out to ~264 yards with a simple MOA-capable rifle/cartridge combination. Probably twice that if you have a high precision instrument and good wind-reading skills, or if you are content to hit it in the longer dimension, assuming the hand holding it makes up for the narrow dimension.
More practice!
i had a custom .243 bolt action varmit rifle that was MOA or less, but I gave it to my son. I was at the range with my evil black AR-15 and it's just not that accurate, or I need more practice. Probably both.
But you're gonna have to take out way more than one phone if you've got a mob of SJW's coming after you. Otherwise you've still got a mob minus one of video of you shooting their phones.
Im betting the mob would lose interest pretty fast if they were being shot at. And where I live we get along well with the police, I'm sure they would show up promptly to quell any unrest from a mob of SJW.
The locals here are more concerned with the dress code at the club than anything else. Someone actually had the gall to where shorts after 5:00 for dinner. He may have to move.
I was at the range with my evil black AR-15 and it's just not that accurate, or I need more practice. Probably both.
I think mil-spec for a that rifle is 4MOA with boring standard-issue ammunition. You have to do a wee bit of (fairly simple) tinkering with it and use higher quality ammunition to get it down to 1MOA, but it's easily doable. Some of the civilian vendors will sell you one warranted to 1MOA or better, with ammunition they specify.
By contrast, I have a bolt-action M1903 Springfield from WWI that handily shoots < 1 MAO with match-grade ammo. I bought it, and the ammunition, from the Army's Department of Civilian Marksmanship years and years ago. And talk about a bayonet, yowza - it's almost as big as my M1917 naval cutlass....
SJWs is the topic here folks... ;)
So I feel like I now occupy a certain political space, that which Sam Harris calls "The New Center." This is sort of like liberals who support free speech and civil & open societies.
But don't we need to prepare for the SJW uprising?
But don't we need to prepare for the SJW uprising?
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/7054/images/141414/large/3-image.jpg
I'd be curious to hear what the definition of "social justice" being used is.
I'm really grateful for the social justice warriors who fought for civil rights, labor laws, and women's suffrage. I think it's really only a pejorative if you disdain such things.
I think homeschooling. It was my favorite book to reference. When people said "But(don't) they need to be in groups of other children their age(?)!" I asked "you mean, like Lord of the Flies?"
😄 I like that.
When I spent the decade of the 90s at home to raise my 3 little ones, my dad would tell me I was too smart to be staying home with kids. I would say "so the stupid people should raise the kids?" 😄😄
I'm really grateful for the social justice warriors who fought for civil rights, labor laws, and women's suffrage. I think it's really only a pejorative if you disdain such things.
Indeed. I know some of those people.
However, some today assume the mantle of "warrior" who don't quite understand what that involves. I'm burying my father-in-law tomorrow. He was a *real* SJW, fighting for LGBTQ+++ rights back when that would likely get you fired, or beaten. His campaign to get universities across the USA to adopt non-discrimination policies was a lifelong project...beginning in the 1950s.
Indeed. I know some of those people.
However, some today assume the mantle of "warrior" who don't quite understand what that involves. I'm burying my father-in-law tomorrow. He was a *real* SJW, fighting for LGBTQ+++ rights back when that would likely get you fired, or beaten. His campaign to get universities across the USA to adopt non-discrimination policies was a lifelong project...beginning in the 1950s.
I'm so sorry, bae.
Yes, a lot of people are poseurs, and very few put their lives on the line. But I wonder how many are self-identified "warriors." It seems to me it's just a derisive title bestowed by others.
gimmethesimplelife
6-2-17, 11:20pm
Indeed. I know some of those people.
However, some today assume the mantle of "warrior" who don't quite understand what that involves. I'm burying my father-in-law tomorrow. He was a *real* SJW, fighting for LGBTQ+++ rights back when that would likely get you fired, or beaten. His campaign to get universities across the USA to adopt non-discrimination policies was a lifelong project...beginning in the 1950s.My condolences. I am sorry to hear about your father-in-law's passing. Rob
ToomuchStuff
6-3-17, 12:15pm
I think mil-spec for a that rifle is 4MOA with boring standard-issue ammunition. You have to do a wee bit of (fairly simple) tinkering with it and use higher quality ammunition to get it down to 1MOA, but it's easily doable. Some of the civilian vendors will sell you one warranted to 1MOA or better, with ammunition they specify.
By contrast, I have a bolt-action M1903 Springfield from WWI that handily shoots < 1 MAO with match-grade ammo. I bought it, and the ammunition, from the Army's Department of Civilian Marksmanship years and years ago. And talk about a bayonet, yowza - it's almost as big as my M1917 naval cutlass....
Don't you also have to change the barrel? Seems to me (new to AR's, sorry), that the rifling is designed for distances. Isn't that part of why people tend to keep older style rifles (besides fun, family artifact, ammo, etc), because you can fire longer distances, and tend to only be able to do that for a couple shots, before your location is determined?
Or you need something with a LOT of range, like a Barrett?
I haven't seen gun/rifle prices like this, since the very early 90's. But back then SKS's were cheaper and FFL's were $30. (easier to become that, then buy a gun)
I'm at about 3 MOA with the green tip ammo. I just picked it up last year after hearing a Hillary add. The prices are sure dropping now, the gun business is defiantly taking a hit since the election. No more panic buying.
There is a big gun show scheduled for next week, maybe I'll pick something out that I can hit a cell phone at 200yds.
Rob, maybe you've already addressed this question, but what is with the zip code? You've posted for years and years and I've only recently seen the attachment to the zip. What is the scoop?
Jonah Goldberg just published a good piece on the "life stylization" of politics. He said something to the effect of disagreements become insults when your politics define who you are. Speech becomes assault and assault becomes a form of speech.
Seattle is getting pretty strange:
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/in-seattle-is-it-now-taboo-to-be-friends-with-a-republican/
gimmethesimplelife
6-4-17, 11:53am
Rob, maybe you've already addressed this question, but what is with the zip code? You've posted for years and years and I've only recently seen the attachment to the zip. What is the scoop?Fair question and you are right - it is only very recently that I have posted my zip code, the infamous "85006". So here's the scoop. For a few years (until about the past six months or so) there has been a noticeable uptick in police harassment of residents of the 85006. One brainstorming session we had at a neighborhood meeting - one beautiful, very bright and insightful idea - was brought up by a woman from Chilpancingo, Mexico who is glad to be in the US but disgusted also by the police here (and I know that there are folks who won't understand this comment, which is part of the problem when you get right down to it) - the idea was this: To wear the zip code as a badge of honor, to look the world in the eye and to be proud of the 85006. I won't say every last person in the 85006 has adopted this, but I have and so have many of my neighbors (but not all.....I know the former Trump supporters six houses down next door to the very kindly couple formerly from Nicaragua don't do this). I won't be ashamed of where I live any more, and this does psychologically take back some of society's power over you - at least as far as conditioning goes. I've even taken to introducing myself to new people by zip code (though I will say in a formal situation such as a job interview I would not do this).
Long and short of the story - pride in the zip code is taking back some of the power society claims over you. Something else too that I've noticed is ever since we've started this pride in the 85006 movement, the neighborhood has less trash lying about - fewer cans and bottles strewn about, and more people taking an interest in keeping their yards up. It's been a good thing and I have such respect for Maria (the woman from Chilpancingo who brought forward this idea). Rob
PS Something else I'm embarrassed about and feel the need to fess up to here - for all my posting about standing up to this country and all that it stands for - I had accepted society's judgement of me based on where I live. I've thrown those shackles off and will NEVER allow myself to buy into such BS again. It's really humiliating to me that I actually bought into this, knowing as I do how little human life truly means in America as is evidenced by the United States being the only country in the developed world in which human life is not worth socialized medicine. Given this fact, how truly bright is it to buy into ANY conditioning whatsoever, beyond a few basic law and order type things, such a society would want you to buy into? 85006 PRIDE FOREVER!!! Rob
gimmethesimplelife
6-4-17, 12:09pm
Seattle is getting pretty strange:
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/in-seattle-is-it-now-taboo-to-be-friends-with-a-republican/Bae, I'll be honest with you - on the surface I'd agree with your take that this is not right - that people should be able to have friends who don't see eye to eye with them politically. On the very surface only I'd even agree with you here....on the surface only, however. The problem is that I have seen people up close and personal who have been hurt by Republican policies of drifting the wealth to the very top over all else so it's very hard for me to be civil to anyone wearing the badge of Republican publicly. I am not an ogre and can indeed be neutral and civil to such people but it is very very very very very hard (there, I've just used more verys than Trump himself!!!).
I find this article depressing - a bit depressing, but I also understand very much why this is as it is. It basically boils down to fear of Republican policies and how they can and do ruin lives and how oblivious Conservatives often are to this. Rob
I don't see postal code tribalism as the answer. Despising anyone in another political camp reflexively seems more like the tragic consequence of an unexamined life than an expression of a superior morality.
ApatheticNoMore
6-4-17, 6:31pm
one issue here is that a lot of people are not particularly political people (by political people I mean people who read a lot about, think a lot about, follow a lot of politics, have some exposure to various political ideas etc. ). And so they may vote this way or that (and maybe different than one does), but they really have never even given the issue much thought (their parents always voted for x party or etc.).
So a lot of voting people are not really political, they have not come to their opinions after much contemplation or anything, and it's probably misguided to judge them as if they were political people.
gimmethesimplelife
6-4-17, 7:45pm
I don't see postal code tribalism as the answer. Despising anyone in another political camp reflexively seems more like the tragic consequence of an unexamined life than an expression of a superior morality.Au Contraire. Before the Internet came to be, I spent hours and hours and hours in the public libraries of Phoenix, Arizona (but mostly the main one downtown) comparison shopping this citizenship against every other citizenship in the world period. I felt I had no choice but to do so given that I learned so much of the dark side of America starting at the age of 8. This is not reflexive behavior but very deeply researched behavior on my part - in my own way, I am America's worst nightmare - and I'm no terrorist - I just brutally comparison shop with no loyalty whatsoever and I truly believe the founding fathers of this country are smiling down at me, respecting me for being so practical. America truly has numerous issues and there is better out there - there is worse, but there is also better. This is not reflexive in the slightest. Rob
PS....After the tone of your post I could not resist this - 85006 PRIDE FOREVER!!! I have nothing but Pride from living in the 85006, period. Rob
And your still a citizen and proud of living in the hood.
And you've been traumatized since the age of 8.
gimmethesimplelife
6-4-17, 11:27pm
And your still a citizen and proud of living in the hood.
And you've been traumatized since the age of 8.With all due respect here, dmc - you a poster who has mentioned before of having a private jet (more power to you, I don't envy you such at all) your point here was? If you meant a point (?), such sure eluded me. Rob
No jet, just a piston single engine plane. If you knew since the the age of I guess it's 8 now, that America was such a terrible place. And you were shopping for citizenship elsewhere since then. Why again are you still here?
If healthcare is so important to you, why don't you just purchase insurance like the vast majority of the citizens. Why don't you just pay your own way?
Im wondering who these wonderful country's are that will gladly take everyone and give them citizenship just so they can subsidize their life. I've looked at a few places and most want a pretty healthy investment or you need to bring a needed skill.
Anyone else notice that SJWs are prone to judging white people by their skin color or men by their gender?
Chicken lady
6-5-17, 7:22am
This year I had to tell a student who spent the whole year analyzing everything in class in relation to her race and bringing it up in situations where it was irrelevant (putting away her own chair. No, this is not an opportunity for me or other students to provide you with redress for services your ancestors may have been forced to provide ours) that calling me "cracker" was racist.
Au Contraire. Before the Internet came to be, I spent hours and hours and hours in the public libraries of Phoenix, Arizona (but mostly the main one downtown) comparison shopping this citizenship against every other citizenship in the world period. I felt I had no choice but to do so given that I learned so much of the dark side of America starting at the age of 8. This is not reflexive behavior but very deeply researched behavior on my part - in my own way, I am America's worst nightmare - and I'm no terrorist - I just brutally comparison shop with no loyalty whatsoever and I truly believe the founding fathers of this country are smiling down at me, respecting me for being so practical. America truly has numerous issues and there is better out there - there is worse, but there is also better. This is not reflexive in the slightest. Rob
PS....After the tone of your post I could not resist this - 85006 PRIDE FOREVER!!! I have nothing but Pride from living in the 85006, period. Rob
I'm not sure how the fantasy football version of emigration counts as either the examined life or America's worst nightmare. But go ahead and cheer for your zip code. People cheer for the Minnesota Vikings for reasons equally inscrutable to me.
gimmethesimplelife
6-5-17, 9:24am
I'm not sure how the fantasy football version of emigration counts as either the examined life or America's worst nightmare. But go ahead and cheer for your zip code. People cheer for the Minnesota Vikings for reasons equally inscrutable to me.All I am going to say here is.....if you lived in a zip code similar to the 85006 (certainly there are many similar zip codes all around the US) and you were more vulnerable to harassment by the police just for living/showing your face in this zip code, you might see having pride in the zip code and throwing the zip code into people's faces very differently. Seriously. Thanks to Maria from Chilpancingo I will never feel less than for living in the 85006 again, and I wish there was a way I could spread this to all similar zip codes. The word of throwing off the shackles of social conditioning in regards to where one lives and what this means about a given person needs to get out to all those victimized by such. And if I'm speaking Greek or some other difficult to understand language to you here, be very grateful. Just luck of the draw to some degree that these words strike you as foreign if they do. Rob
gimmethesimplelife
6-5-17, 9:32am
Anyone else notice that SJWs are prone to judging white people by their skin color or men by their gender?Interesting point and yes I have heard of this before, but in settings of a higher social class. In my neighborhood I've actually experienced people having great respect for me (which amazed me at first, it really did) for the simple fact that I am white and that i take the stances that I do and that I stand up for people who are not of European descent. But I wonder if you are talking more of feminist SJW's instead of lower income survival SJW's? In the 85006 and similar neighborhoods you will not find much room overall for feminism and dislike/distrust of men overall as you would at a typically university setting - struggling people have different priorities overall that override feminist SJW narratives. The SJW's we have, such as myself, have a different agenda overall than a college co-ed feminist protesting the patriarchy, for example. Rob
Chicken lady
6-5-17, 9:33am
While I feel a responsibility to those around me and am influenced by what I see daily, I do not and have never defined myself by the place where I live. I have used places I live(d) to explain learned attitudes and behaviors, but have always seen those attitudes and behaviors as subject to revision and not the core of my identity. Just as I bit people when I was two because I was non-verbal, hard of hearing, powerless and angry, but now I am older, verbal, hear better, have more power, and manage my anger without biting people.
I am glad that you no longer feel compelled to internalize a negative vision of who you are because of your location, and I hope that you either are never forced to move or move past your new reliance on your location as such a strong source of your new positive identity.
ToomuchStuff
6-5-17, 9:44am
With all due respect here, dmc - you a poster who has mentioned before of having a private jet (more power to you, I don't envy you such at all) your point here was? If you meant a point (?), such sure eluded me. Rob
The problem when living by an airport, is you get too used to things whooshing over your head.
The problem when living by an airport, is you get too used to things whooshing over your head.
Good point. When we lived in Beaufort, everyday we could hear the fighter jets from MCAS and the artillery range from Parris Island.
One did feel quite protected!
I heard it described once as an adherent of totalitarian ideologies such as Cultural Marxism, responsible for turning academic institutions into ivy covered North Koreas.
I'll go with that. I am using this as an example for an atheist discussion group about SJWs!
This is a great article I saw from a person who sees the current SJW approaches a problematic and way too exclusive: "9 ways We Can Make Social Justice Movements Less Elitist And More Accessible."
http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/9-ways-we-can-make-social-justice-movements-less-elitist-and-more-accessible/
This is a great article I saw from a person who sees the current SJW approaches a problematic and way too exclusive: "9 ways We Can Make Social Justice Movements Less Elitist And More Accessible."
http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/9-ways-we-can-make-social-justice-movements-less-elitist-and-more-accessible/
The High School clique analogy rang true to me. So much of this stuff smacks of the fashion forward sneering at the fashion challenged.
The High School clique analogy rang true to me. So much of this stuff smacks of the fashion forward sneering at the fashion challenged.
Now, the Star-Belly Sneetches
Had bellies with stars.
The Plain-Belly Sneetches
Had none upon thars.
Those stars weren't so big. They were really so small
You might think such a thing wouldn't matter at all.
But, because they had stars, all the Star-Belly Sneetches
Would brag, "We're the best kind of Sneetch on the Beaches."
With their snoots in the air, they would sniff and they'd snort
"We'll have nothing to do with the Plain-Belly sort!"
And whenever they met some, when they were out walking,
They'd hike right on past them without even talking.
When the Star-Belly children went out to play ball,
Could a Plain Belly get in the game... ? Not at all.
You only could play if your bellies had stars.
And the Plain Belly children had none upon thars.
When the Star-Belly Sneetches had frankfurter roasts
Or picnics or parties or marshmallow toasts,
They never invited the Plain-Belly Sneetches.
They left them out cold, in the dark of the beaches.
They kept them away. Never let them come near.
And that's how they treated them year after year.
ToomuchStuff
7-4-17, 4:29am
The most succint definition I've seen comes from an atheist web site.
"A social justice warrior is someone who actively condemns and seeks to harm those who express socio-political views contrary to his or her own while claiming to promote social justice."
This is a great article I saw from a person who sees the current SJW approaches a problematic and way too exclusive: "9 ways We Can Make Social Justice Movements Less Elitist And More Accessible."
I got to thinking about this, yesterday morning, before going to work. (long day yesterday)
What happens when you get more SJW's together in a group? The more you get together, at some point they feel empowered to provide their own justice. (vigilante, revolutionist, ethnic/religious cleanser, etc.)
Beliefs, values, etc. are not universal and do change (hence this discussion), so those groups that have had social values others don't, still see themselves as doing the right thing, whether Kosovo, Germany, the KKK, etc.
http://www.simplelivingforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1779&stc=1
I got to thinking about this, yesterday morning, before going to work. (long day yesterday)
What happens when you get more SJW's together in a group? The more you get together, at some point they feel empowered to provide their own justice. (vigilante, revolutionist, ethnic/religious cleanser, etc.)
Beliefs, values, etc. are not universal and do change (hence this discussion), so those groups that have had social values others don't, still see themselves as doing the right thing, whether Kosovo, Germany, the KKK, etc.
That's true. I think social media has had the same effect. We self-select people to our liking--people who reinforce our beliefs with superficial memes to make us feel good.
At the same time, there's a difference between the SJW that is militant, exclusive, judgmental and the many brave people who have made meaningful social differences--like Civil Rights Movement, the leaders of the women's movement, etc. The difference between the two groups is exactly what the article points out: the less effective movements are the ones who are angry and self-righteous and use up their energy on semantics and sheer blether.
Mother Teresa was a SJW, but you never heard her put down others. The modus operandi of the best SJWs is to walk the walk with love and charity.
Loved the article. It explains why I tend to not join a lot of things, instead take an approach rooted in Buddhism and those groups. However I call out things when they come up, I talk about the deal, and focus more on being a friend than perfect. It is just really sad that we spend so much time on the arguments around social justice than building relationships and connection
ApatheticNoMore
7-4-17, 11:03am
again I don't have much to do with social justice warriors, but I am beginning to suspect that in some cases the slur is just used for just people who make people aware that other people besides white males exists, which I suppose is as shocking to them as young child finding out the universe doesn't revolve around them. WAAHHH!!!
Williamsmith
7-4-17, 1:44pm
In my mind a Social Justice Warrior is simply a person who hasn't yet fully realized the complexities of real life and accepted the fact that other macro and micro world views can exist and be perfectly justified. In a word, they fail to maintain "perspective" to the detriment of others. They tend to look at people as blocks of unchanging wood or metal instead of understanding that the human being is being molded and shaped like playdough continuously. I could have been labeled a SJW at certain points of my life. I try to remember that.
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