How much in an emergency fund?

[Tybee]

How much do you feel is optimal to hold in an emergency fund? I hear 3-6-9-12 months of living expenses, but you also need a separate fund to pay for things like car transmissions or airconditioners.

I am just trying to get a feel for what is enough, what is a sensible approach to the question of taking cash off the table and out of investments.

I am finding as I have hit semi-retirement, my desire for emergency money grows, as well as the lure of a cash position now that I am living on my retirement money. . . So I guess the ancillary is, how much in your portfolio do you keep in cash, if you are retired?

[bae]

I keep 2-3 years of living funds in "operating reserves", and replenish the position when I rebalance my portfolio.

This allows me to not realize significant income some years, which has great tax advantages, and gets Alan to pay for my healthcare most years.

[ApatheticNoMore]

I might say a couple of years and maybe something toward a new used car if you think you'll need one anytime soon. Cautious yea well, how much does investing and retirement even matter if one faces destitution if they lose a job in the next recession? It is not going to be one's top priority and one really doesn't want to raid some fund like a 401k with big tax penalties, just to pay bills, at least not as a first resort. But I'm not retired so ... live to work another day, or if that's not possible because unemployed then live to look for work another day ...

[Teacher Terry]

WE just keep a small amount but we have pensions and $ from working p.t. coming in monthly.

[Alan]

We used to keep between 6 and 9 months of cash in reserve but dropped it down to about 3 months once we got old enough to remove money from retirements accounts without penalty. We haven't done that yet because I'm determined not to make additional payments on bae's insurance subsidies unless I absolutely have to.

[Tybee]

Thanks, everyone. That is a good point about once you pass 59 1/2, as I have, and are not subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty. Also I can really see the 2-3 years operating expenses--maybe someday I can get there. Terry is right about the pensions--we don't have any such steady pension income. Sure wish I had selected different work a long time ago, but too late now. Anyway, thanks for some interesting thoughts on this.

[freshstart]

Since I am now making very little and I don't want to touch any of my retirement money, I am keeping about 18k on hand right now and add $500 to it a month. I want to work up to a 1-2 years worth of living expenses and enough for a decent used car (hopefully that's in the distant future)

[Tybee]

That sounds good to me, freshstart. I currently have the 1 year cd ladder with a different one rolling over each month, with enough for survival for a month in each. But I need to have a pool of cash, too, for emergencies.

So far, the big emergency in the last year was the tree falling and taking out part of the other tree and missing the house by a food (Yay!) so that was 2200 in cash for removal and trimming the other 3 maples. We also had a 600 dollar dog emergency.

[Yppej]

I go by 8 months living expenses, based on Suze Orman's recommendation.

[Teacher Terry]

Our pensions are small compared to our co-workers because I went to college later in life and then to work for the state. But I am grateful for the steady income. We also are losing most of our SS because we retired from a state that does not pay in so due to WEP they can take up to 60% away from us. I probably would have chosen to go to a state that did not have this had I known when I first started. I specifically chose to make less $ and have the pension. I saw how it really helped my parents through my dad's long illness and then my Mom after that. It really is a shame that so few places offer them now.

[Gardnr]

We settled on 18 months expenses in easy to get to cash. It passed my 'sleep test'. It really matters what makes YOU sleep well:cool:

[Tybee]

We settled on 18 months expenses in easy to get to cash. It passed my 'sleep test'. It really matters what makes YOU sleep well:cool:

Now that I am semi-retired (just have a few part-time teaching gigs), the sleep test number seems to have risen. But yes, this definitely ties into a desire to sleep better at night!

[BikingLady]

The amount has changed greatly over the years, used to be long enough to secure another job asap. Now that we are older, yes things like roof, car and major planned items are tossed into the plan. I don't think husband would ever say there is enough so now it is for the rest of life is the amount.

[Tybee]

The amount has changed greatly over the years, used to be long enough to secure another job asap. Now that we are older, yes things like roof, car and major planned items are tossed into the plan. I don't think husband would ever say there is enough so now it is for the rest of life is the amount.

I know, right. It is a real change in attitude.

[ApatheticNoMore]

the 2 year number was to secure another job, not that it generally takes that long, was more on worst case scenario (expect the worst, at least you won't be disappointed), though now I hear of people unemployed even longer ...

[pinkytoe]

If you're not talking job loss income, I would think $15-20K would more than cover most emergencies. We retired recently and have my pension and both our social security as income. I save at least $500 a month in an Ally account which we have designated as the emergency account. Our emergency this year was a 90 mph wind that knocked down a fence and a very tall pine tree. You just never know...