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gimmethesimplelife
7-10-17, 2:01pm
As I post this, right at this minute, 10:56 AM Arizona time on Monday, July 10th, 2017, it seems as if the GOP does NOT have enough votes to pass Trumpcare. I don't read the future but I'm very glad at this moment.....I'm guessing maybe some of it is that Republicans may be afraid of the their constituents now after the shooing in Arlington, VA, recently, and after numerous nationwide aggressive town halls? I do what little it is that I can to get the word out that human life matters more then corporate profit.....so when I run across hope such as this I'm very grateful. Rob
I'm guessing maybe some of it is that Republicans may be afraid of the their constituents now after the shooing in Arlington, VA, recently,...
Good gracious, Rob, that's beyond the Pale.
gimmethesimplelife
7-10-17, 2:14pm
Good gracious, Rob, that's beyond the Pale.Bae, I didn't say this was right or that I approve of GOP members living in fear of their constituents - I only offered a guess as to why there is not enough GOP support to pass this TrumpCare monstrosity. I'm of the opinion that the unfortunate shooting in Arlington, VA, recently, coupled with a series of hostile and aggressive town halls may have some of the GOP feeling less than invincible. Just a hunch......Rob
I think it is horrible to link the two, Rob. And personally, if someone came out and shot me and my friends, I would not be cowed by that but I would be angry and determined to vote however I felt would best represent the people that elected me--there is no reason to assume these folks are cowards, which is what you seem to be doing here.
Surely you are not suggesting that this is a good thing, that someone shot at people?
Teacher Terry
7-10-17, 2:27pm
What politicians care most about is getting re-elected and keeping their cushy jobs. They are afraid when people lose their HI they will vote against them. I think that is the reason. McCain said he thinks it is dead.
gimmethesimplelife
7-10-17, 2:27pm
I think it is horrible to link the two, Rob. And personally, if someone came out and shot me and my friends, I would not be cowed by that but I would be angry and determined to vote however I felt would best represent the people that elected me--there is no reason to assume these folks are cowards, which is what you seem to be doing here.
Surely you are not suggesting that this is a good thing, that someone shot at people?Yowsa......can I just start this day over? No, I am not saying these people are cowards per se - at least not in this situation/instance. And I don't believe it was right to shoot at them.....period. I can't rail against police brutality if I am not against the shooting in Arlington, VA, you know? I merely brought this up as there seems to be a slight change of heart going on in the GOP in regards to the ACA and healthcare in general. It may be that the residents of the 85006 overall may not have to live in fear of economic terrorism via the US Health Care industry 24/7/365......this is a big deal to me and those I am close to. Rob
gimmethesimplelife
7-10-17, 2:32pm
What politicians care most about is getting re-elected and keeping their cushy jobs. They are afraid when people lose their HI they will vote against them. I think that is the reason. McCain said he thinks it is dead.My take, coming from the lower social classes: I am of the opinion that there are some Republicans who realize that if health care is taken away from people who have next to nothing or in some cases nothing, there is not much to keep such people from taking it to the streets or committing rash acts as they have very little if anything to lose. This goes against how I personally view the GOP - people who consider themselves invincible and above consequences for the effects of their legislation when it passes. I believe some of the GOP may be grasping that health care is a powderkeg and maybe it's in their best interest to drop this hot potato? Rob
I can hear the positive glee with the idea of violence against "Republicans" and "economic terrorism" by the "lower social classes" sneaking into the writing of some people.
gimmethesimplelife
7-10-17, 2:47pm
I can hear the positive glee with the idea of violence against "Republicans" and "economic terrorism" by the "lower social classes" sneaking into the writing of some people.Perhaps a hearing test is in order then, Bae? There is no positive glee in my post to hear. Rob
Perhaps a hearing test is in order then, Bae? There is no positive glee in my post to hear. Rob
I get my hearing checked several times a year, Rob, as part of our required safety/health protocols, due to being exposed to noise levels that can damage hearing during my work. But thanks!
I don't think anyone with any degree of sanity viewed a single lunatic acting out as a harbinger of revolution. Nor do I think many professional politicians are all that intimidated by crowds of shrieking people.
Nor do I think many professional politicians are all that intimidated by crowds of shrieking people.
Except rob portman and then only if the shreiking people are in wheelchairs.
Politicians may not be intimidated, but they do pay attention. I remember years ago attending a talk by a local politician. He had just recently left office but he gave us some idea of how politicians are influenced. He said that you would not believe how much it influences them if, say, 20 people who are all wearing the same color t-shirt (or similar easily identifiable look) attend in person to e.g., a city council meeting to press in favor of/or against the topic at hand.
Politicians are also human and when they exit these kinds of interactions they will remember those who showed up as a group and what their point was, because everyone knows that the citizens who show up in person represent many many more who were home but are of the same persuasion.
Politicians are also human and when they exit these kinds of interactions they will remember those who showed up as a group and what their point was, because everyone knows that the citizens who show up in person represent many many more who were home but are of the same persuasion.
Tricky business though.
The same small group of "sovereign citizens" shows up at meetings of a local governmental body I serve on, generally to point out that they don't consent to, well, society. Yes, we *do* take note of them. And act accordingly :-) Talking with local law enforcement, they don't represent a larger group, they pretty much are the entire county's population of such interesting individuals...
Yes, agree about the small hardcore groups who attend everything. Their views get glossed over when it becomes apparent they are there simply to complain.
The core groups who do get attention are the ones who can demonstrate that they will bring other voters with them at election time. That's what's going to make 2018 elections so interesting.
Tricky business though.
The same small group of "sovereign citizens" shows up at meetings of a local governmental body I serve on, generally to point out that they don't consent to, well, society. Yes, we *do* take note of them. And act accordingly :-) Talking with local law enforcement, they don't represent a larger group, they pretty much are the entire county's population of such interesting individuals...
We have some of those here. A few have taken to filing liens against officials' property, which can be a pain to straighten out. There have been some prosecutions for "slander of title".
Generally, I've found people who show up at public hearings (excluding a few habitual eccentrics and eternal NIMBYs) can influence decisions.
How do people file liens against officials' property--on what grounds?
How do people file liens against officials' property--on what grounds?
The grounds can be as frivolous as a damaged mind can make them. If you believe that taxation is theft, you might file a lien against your County Treasurer for damages due to theft or extortion. In our state, anyone with a filing fee and time on their hands can file any fool thing they want. You can get them removed from your title, but until you do it can affect your credit and ability to sell your property. It's basically a form of harassment similar to a frivolous lawsuit. Slandering title that way is a crime, but it takes time and resources to deal with.
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