A very deep sense of outrage.....

[gimmethesimplelife]

I've just been on the phone with various neighbors of mine and from what I am gathering so far, there is a very deep (I mean Grand Canyon deep) sense of outrage and anger over the Arpaio pardon. I've never seen these particular neighbors in the 85006 so outraged....I will go and make my rounds now around the barrio but so far the barometer is reading unforgivable and major line crossed that can't be uncrossed. Not good. At least this means protests are coming and this time I have no choice but to participate. Ay carumba, what was the reason again that enough Americans voted for this (expletive) so that he won the election? To use a line of Sarah Palin's: How's that working out for ya? Sorry, couldn't resist.......Rob

[bae]

I'm outraged as well, as are most of the people here in the 98245 I talked to this evening.

However, what form will your "protests" take? What is your goal?

Here, we're mostly writing letters, making phone calls, funding candidates, grooming new candidates, signing up voters, sending money to the ACLU, and that sort of stuff. I'm suspecting there won't be many gatherings on the village green.

[Zoe Girl]

I think it will take a variety of actions, and idon't remind myself how many years it took to stop wars or make changes. This is the long haul, so i have been more in the letter, petition, phone call range. But i feel the need to get out. I can see the value of joining together and feeling you are not alone

[JaneV2.0]

As well as all the actions previously mentioned here, the more extroverted among us can run for office or volunteer for positions in our community where we can make a difference.

I'm outraged that that poisonous old coot was pardoned, too--he should have been locked away for a good long time, dressed in pink skivvies and fed vegan loaf while forced to listen to mariachi music on a loop. Rats gnawing on his entrails would have been too good for him.

[dmc]

Your outraged at the old sheriffs pardon, but I don't remember much outrage at Obamas pardons.

There are too many to list for Obama. This is Trumps first.

[bae]

Your outraged at the old sheriffs pardon, but I don't remember much outrage at Obamas pardons.

There are too many to list for Obama. This is Trumps first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executive_clemency_by_Barac k_Obama

Obama certainly didn't come swinging out-of-the-gate with a clear pie-in-your-face pardon meant to send a political statement.

[Zoe Girl]

Not even close to the same! I read over the summary of Obama's pardons too.

[dmc]

Obama pardoned drug dealers, terrorist, and a traitor, to name a few. Was the sheriff charged with a felony? Was he really looking at any jail time.

[bae]

Obama pardoned drug dealers, terrorist, and a traitor, to name a few. Was the sheriff charged with a felony? Was he really looking at any jail time.

Arpaio is a nationally divisive political figure, who has been engaged in a long campaign of actions that fit right into Trump's law-and-order/build-a-wall/Mexican-rapists narrative.

The Sheriff's actions that led to his current troubles strike at the very heart of our system of government. He violated a court order related to civil rights, then was found in criminal contempt in Federal court for doing so.

Pardoning him sends the clear message that our elected officials can step on our civil rights without consequence if their actions have the approval of the President, and that our courts have no power to remedy the situation.

So, rule of law, over. Act accordingly :-)

[dmc]

Looks like he was looking at a misdemeanor offense. And was probably going to appeal the case.

[dmc]

And Obamas Justice Department was any different?

[JaneV2.0]

Journalist Charles Kaiser had this to say:

http://billmoyers.com/story/arpaio-pardon-may-opening-act-constitutional-crisis/#.WaGSaAFJbGM.facebook

I have a written a book about France under fascism, and what we are now experiencing is exactly what incipient fascism looks like. The combination of Trump’s relentless assaults on the free press, his open encouragement of Nazis — which is the only honest description of his initial refusal to condemn them — and now a pardon without even pretending to go through the normal channels of the Justice Department — these are all the acts of man who is blatantly defying his sacred pledge to uphold the Constitution of the United States.

[gimmethesimplelife]

There's a protest I will be going to tonight - wisely I kept tonight open on my work availability so that I could attend a protest if one materialized. I realize that mere protesting is unlikely to change much - I just have to know that I am not alone in my outrage and that many others are of a similar mind. It's not hard to find people from the 85006 that have already committed to protest. This is just a start - I believe this is the beginning of a long fight in America and I don't know how it will end or if I will be here in the US for the final result but I'm here and there's now and I'm a decent human being of good character so I have no alternative but to resist and stand up for what is humane and right. I'm not from the 85006 for nothing, you know? (nor is anyone else from whatever zip code they come from, to be fair - it's just that this area gets slammed a lot by the City). Rob

I came back to add that I am looking into what I can do with my writing skills to increase awareness of what's going on and to hopefully express the viewpoint of my neighbors, for many of whom English is a second language - I'd like to help some of these folks express their voice with my writing skills, and since I agree with most of their takes on life, this is not going to be a problem for me at all. At least it's something I can do beyond protesting. And for those thinking this protest tonight is going to be a party - street cred is that it's BYOFAD (bring your own food and drink). Rob

[Alan]

And for those thinking this protest tonight is going to be a party - street cred is that it's BYOFAD (bring your own food and drink). Rob
So it's like a pot-luck?

[jp1]

So it's like a pot-luck?

Catered events are more your style? Or were you just hoping there'd be taco trucks?

[gimmethesimplelife]

So it's like a pot-luck?No, just a protest. Surely you have seen images of such in the media before this? Rob

[Alan]

Catered events are more your style? Or were you just hoping there'd be taco trucks?
No, I just didn't get the distinction. Still don't. And what makes you think of taco trucks?

[gimmethesimplelife]

Catered events are more your style? Or were you just hoping there'd be taco trucks?ROTFLMAO. Rob

[Alan]

No, just a protest. Surely you have seen images of such in the media before this? Rob
Yes, but I must have missed the picnic baskets.

[gimmethesimplelife]

Yes, but I must have missed the picnic baskets.I know offhand of no one in the 85006 bringing picnic baskets, sorry. Rob

[Alan]

I know offhand of no one in the 85006 bringing picnic baskets, sorry. RobThen I'm not sure why you emphasized it as a BYOFAD event. Are you speaking in code?

[jp1]

No, I just didn't get the distinction. Still don't. And what makes you think of taco trucks?

I remember being excited when we were promised taco trucks on every corner if hillary won the election. (although to be honest I doubt they'd all be as good as the one down the street from my office so I was probably setting myself up for disappointment)

Of course if Hillary had won the election then there wouldn't be the need for a protest tonight since Sheriff Joe wouldn't have been pardoned.

[Alan]

I remember being excited when we were promised taco trucks on every corner if hillary won the election.Really? I don't remember that as part of her campaign, is that how they pay for votes in California? ;)

[jp1]

Really? I don't remember that as part of her campaign, is that how they pay for votes in California? ;)

It wasn't a hillary supporter who promised this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/03/us/politics/taco-trucks-on-every-corner-trump-supporters-anti-immigration-warning.html?mcubz=0

[ApatheticNoMore]

I remember being excited when we were promised taco trucks on every corner if hillary won the election.

talk about what we don't need with the obesity epidemic and all ... :~)

[jp1]

talk about what we don't need with the obesity epidemic and all ... :~)

I believe in everyone's freedom to become obese if they so desire.