Old sayings and new

[catherine]

I called an interviewee this morning at 9:45am, the time on my schedule. When I couldn't reach her after repeated attempts, I then re-read my schedule and saw that someone transposed the Eastern time zone and Pacific time zone, so I was calling this poor woman in San Diego at 6:45 her time. My project manager advised me to tell our client that the respondent had simply rescheduled.

So I said back, "Mum's the word." Then I got to thinking that this young project manager might have no clue what I was talking about.

What sayings are old fashioned and shouldn't be said without giving away your age? Or what new sayings are out there now that maybe I shouldn't use because I'll be appropriating a young person's phrase?

Are there rules to using common slang? What slang words or phrases do you use a lot? Do all you guys know what "mum's the word" means?

[JaneV2.0]

"All the rage" and "gaslighting" are back in vogue; hurray! Also "kibosh."

[Rogar]

I have a friend who uses the expression, "That and a quarter won't buy you a cup of coffee." That's obviously out these days. I suspect that, "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater," is basically lost now, though I knew a fellow from a large and poor family who used it often. I actually used the word kibosh the other day, which drew some comments. Good to know that it is vogue.

[razz]

I was talking to some friends yesterday and expressed my concern that study of the Bible has seriously diminished across the years especially with millennials. My reason for concern is that so many of the common sayings found in the English language came from proverbs or psalms would gradually disappear. If unfamiliar with the source, the interpretation of a reading would fail.

[catherine]

I was talking to some friends yesterday and expressed my concern that study of the Bible has seriously diminished across the years especially with millennials. My reason for concern is that so many of the common sayings found in the English language came from proverbs or psalms would gradually disappear. If unfamiliar with the source, the interpretation of a reading would fail.

I feel the same way about Shakespeare (I know you probably do, too, razz--I know you go to Stratford for shows). There is SO MUCH rich language from Shakespeare that we've used in our speech, but I'm afraid it will fade away over time.


ETA: haha! as a matter of fact, I just learned in this article (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/william-shakespeares-450th-birthday-50-everyday-phrases-that-came-from-the-bard-9275254.html) that "mum's the word" came from Shakespeare's Henry VI, Part II!

[SteveinMN]

People look at me funny when I exclaim, "23 skidoo!" (unless I'm watching a bunch of snowmobiles race by) :D

Seriously, I can think of several old phrases. Saying that something "turns your crank" probably is dead because so few things these days need a crank. Some slang gets updated: I've heard that "quarter and a cup of coffee" phrase updates to "That and a buck will buy you a Hershey bar." Calling a grand something "the Cadillac of <whatever>" is passe; now people refer to Mercedes-Benzes or Lexuses.

My grandfather used to say, "Now you're cooking with gas" to indicate an efficient operation of some kind.

For sure there are dozens of advertising slogans which were adopted into common usage for a while but which now sound horribly dated, like "ancient Chinese secret" or "Wassssupppp!" I expect "...said no one ever" to follow into that abyss eventually.

For better or worse, "That's what she said" will date someone as a watcher of The Office, just as none but the eccentric say "Cowabunga" any more (although I still hear "D'oh!" a lot because ... well, maybe because I say it. Safer than a lot of other terms that come to mind.)

I think the general rule for slang usage is that when you hear 50-year-olds use it, it's time for the young people to find a new term. I'm not sure how I'll react the first time I hear someone in the old age home say they were really "turnt" to go to the Rolling Stones concert next week. In my experience, slang is regional and very transient. Some terms have incredible staying power (Shakespeare's, for example) and others will not ("Bazinga" will be over as soon as The Big Bang Theory is off the air). I wouldn't want to place bets on how long any current slang will stay around.

[LDAHL]

If you find, as I do, that this sort of thing is interesting, there's a terrific public radio program called A Way with Words that explores where various words and phrases came from.

https://www.waywordradio.org/

[lmerullo]

I just said hill of beans in another thread...

Rolodex is dead.

I still say "tape" when I want to capture something in the DVR. My kids laugh at that...

[pinkytoe]

Before DH retired, he worked with a lot of millennial age kids. They had no clue what he was talking about when he used old Texas expressions that have been around forever so he learned to not use them in their company.

[ToomuchStuff]

I am going to put a kibosh on posting in this thread for now. Send it to file 13, as it is full of malarkey. Makes me feel like explaining what a Kojak with a Kodak is to someone knee high to a grasshopper.

[razz]

I am going to put a kibosh on posting in this thread for now. Send it to file 13, as it is full of malarkey. Makes me feel like explaining what a Kojak with a Kodak is to someone knee high to a grasshopper.
:thankyou: Well phrased:D

[iris lilies]

I am going to put a kibosh on posting in this thread for now. Send it to file 13, as it is full of malarkey. Makes me feel like explaining what a Kojak with a Kodak is to someone knee high to a grasshopper.
Haha!

[JaneV2.0]

Language is dynamic and ever-changing. The phrase "different to" grates on my ears, for example, but that's the way it goes.

[Float On]

Ha! Just last night I said "cheese and crackers" a few times while watching a horror movie with one of the boys. He turned to me after awhile and said "I can't figure out what you mean by that". So I had to look it up today. Based in the '20's a good christian girl's way of trying not to say "Jesus Christ" when exclaiming fear or excitement......but I also learned it's London cockney for "testicles".

[LDAHL]

In my daughter's middle school, "legit" is good and "septic" is bad.

If you ask me, they're just a bunch of little pillocks.

[goldensmom]

I love to use phrases I overheard my grandmother and her friends using when I was a child (grandma was born in 1894). One of my favorites is 'get a wiggle on' meaning hurry up. I also like to say things backwards as my great grandparents, things such as 'throw the horse over the fence some hay'. I often say 'watch out your head' - within the family of course. Recently I heard a young person say 'that is really rad'. I wondered if she knew I used that word in 1970's? Now if she says 'we were rapping' I will have to say something to her.