View Full Version : How do you feel about counterfeit goods?
gimmethesimplelife
2-23-18, 2:12pm
Just thought I'd ask this as a discount store near me was busted recently for selling counterfeit goods - get this - toothpaste, shampoo, and women's makeup. This shop was not selling phony Rolexes or phony high end ladie's handbags but phony things that people most people use regularly - at least in the case of the shampoo and toothpaste.
I've asked a few folks in the 85006 and the response I've gotten is that counterfeit goods are a blessing as they get goods into the hands of those who can't afford them AND avoid the exploitive markup. What do you think?
I don't know that I've ever knowingly used a counterfeit consumer good, although a friend did gift me a $5 Rolex from China. It didn't work.
iris lilies
2-23-18, 2:20pm
Just thought I'd ask this as a discount store near me was busted recently for selling counterfeit goods - get this - toothpaste, shampoo, and women's makeup. This shop was not selling phony Rolexes or phony high end ladie's handbags but phony things that people most people use regularly - at least in the case of the shampoo and toothpaste.
I've asked a few folks in the 85006 and the response I've gotten is that counterfeit goods are a blessing as they get goods into the hands of those who can't afford them AND avoid the exploitive markup. What do you think?
rob, why do these essential goods have to knock off the trademarks and proprietary marketing of the name brands?
Why cant 80056 use off brands? This just plays into the socio economic product promotion wisdom that poor people are easily manipulated by marketing. Why is that?
You are dishonest in your analysis. If people need toothpaste, they dont need Crest. Actually, salt is just as good.
It’s illegal. I’m in imports and CBP focuses heavily on IPR (intellectual property rights), trademark violations and the like.
Yeah, what’s wrong with the store brand?
ApatheticNoMore
2-23-18, 2:47pm
store brands may be just as good, but salt is not just as good as toothpaste, it doesn't have fluoride and that makes a difference in tooth decay. Of course frankly I wouldn't TRUST counterfeit brands to have it either (as unlike the store brand they are openly dishonest (plus the store brand does care about it's reputation, it's ability to be sued etc.). So why believe any of their consumer claims either with a fraudulent product, you really have no idea what you are consuming with the counterfeit brand and you want to put that in your mouth?).
So salt might be just as good in that case, at least it's probably mostly what it appears to be and at least it's probably fairly harmless to consume as is baking soda even if they lack the decay prevention of legitimate toothpaste.
I remember a case a few years back that supposedly name brand toothpaste at the dollar store was adulterated with something not good for us. Can’t remember what it was and don’t feel like googling now! ;)
Counterfeit goods may be adulterated and no one will know when, where or how it was done. Toothpaste, for example, needs to be only a pea-sized amount. Brush more often and use toothpaste once a day. There are other ways to reduce costs than dealing with the unknown. You can be sure that the counterfeit goods are generating close to the same profit margin, IMHO anyway.
I believe that Tradd's observation was triggered by a report of toothpaste sold in a dollar store that had gone to Africa and back when the production code was examined and it was well past its expiry date.
From CBC:
"A U.S. government report says a Toronto-area mall is among the most notorious sources of pirated and counterfeit goods in the world.
Pacific Mall, a predominantly Chinese-Canadian shopping centre in Markham, Ont., is one of 18 brick-and-mortar locations and 25 online retailers named by the U.S. Office of the Trade Representative in its annual review of so-called "notorious markets."
The U.S. government says sales of counterfeit goods at Pacific Mall are "sprawling and pervasive" and that vendors "operate largely with impunity (as) requests for assistance from local law enforcement have reportedly gone unanswered."
The new report says some of the counterfeit items available at the mall, including cosmetics, sunglasses and perfumes, can pose a risk to public health and safety.
Pacific Mall is the only Canadian market included on the list, though the report notes that one of the fastest-growing advertising networks that cater to online sellers of counterfeit goods is based in Canada.
Representatives of Pacific Mall were not immediately available for comment."
More from Snopes who advise that some claims of expired or unsafe toothpaste are true- https://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/toothpaste.asp
I look at the dollar store items and walk away. Few items are actually cheaper of necessities if one examines the contents and one's use. Non-essentials, like birthday cards, seasonal decorations etc., are cheaper I often think that crime elements may be involved as well.
I remember a case a few years back that supposedly name brand toothpaste at the dollar store was adulterated with something not good for us. Can’t remember what it was and don’t feel like googling now! ;)
I recall that, or it was a Law and Order episode :) I have an issue with it because I know what brands I have reactions to and I need to know that they are authentic. I don't mind store brand, just be honest about what you are selling. If there are any issues with the product I wouldn't want the company being ripped off being held responsible.
ApatheticNoMore
2-23-18, 4:27pm
it seems the consumer only has so many protections
- regulation - but that is precisely one reason that discount store may have been busted, you can't regulate that which is fraudulent to begin with
- threat of class action
- brand reputation, Crest has an interest here but so does Walgreens brand or whatever
- consumer discernment, but while this might apply to inspecting say an orange or a piece of clothing, this doesn't apply for mysterious semi-liquids like toothpaste and shampoo, you can't apply your perceptions to weed out what those really are, they are mystery substances, best apply your brain to just stick to something legit
iris lilies
2-23-18, 6:11pm
It’s illegal. I’m in imports and CBP focuses heavily on IPR (intellectual property rights), trademark violations and the like.
The legality of actions is not a primary focus for the 85006? Probably.
Just thought I'd ask this as a discount store near me was busted recently for selling counterfeit goods - get this - toothpaste, shampoo, and women's makeup. This shop was not selling phony Rolexes or phony high end ladie's handbags but phony things that people most people use regularly - at least in the case of the shampoo and toothpaste.
I've asked a few folks in the 85006 and the response I've gotten is that counterfeit goods are a blessing as they get goods into the hands of those who can't afford them AND avoid the exploitive markup. What do you think?
I'm not sure why anybody would want to break the law to put fake toothpaste made from unknown ingredients into their mouth. You can call it a blessing, but to me it seems like a foolish risk.
rosarugosa
2-23-18, 7:02pm
I can understand discount goods being a blessing, but not counterfeit goods.
gimmethesimplelife
2-23-18, 7:49pm
The legality of actions is not a primary focus for the 85006? Probably.IL....Whoah.....please. Go ahead and knock me, I have tough skin but please don't slam the 85006. Please don't slam my community - it's struggling and most people are doing the best they can every day in a society that often works against them and not for them. I'm not even saying extend respect - just neutrality or indifference. But slam me all you want, once again I have thick skin. Rob
I feel better about it than I do about high end Ulta Beauty smoothing out used makeup and other products with a Qtip and selling them to unsuspecting consumers as new. More expensive is not always better.
gimmethesimplelife
2-23-18, 7:56pm
The legality of actions is not a primary focus for the 85006? Probably.Came back to add that I beg to differ with your post. The 85006 was one of the better represented zip codes during both the United Airlines protests last year (after the unfortunate Dr. Dao incident if you remember) and of the Wells Fargo protests the preceding year. Both cases show residents of the 85006 very much focused on the legalities of actions by both United Airlines and the Wells Fargo brand. We also sent three unemployed residents of the 85006 up to Salt Lake City to protest the Jeff Payne I'm A Cop So Therefore I Am Above The Law Fiasco that ended out netting Victim Alex Wubbels a cool 500K - though I believe she settled far too cheaply, I would have been in it for no less than 7 million personally.....but of course that was not my call in this situation and Victim Alex Wubbels is certainly free to settle for whatever amount she deems appropriate and acceptable.
The point? I have posted more than once of incidents in which residents of this barrio have very much focused on legalities and did something constructive regarding the illegal actions of others. Rob
gimmethesimplelife
2-23-18, 8:04pm
It’s illegal. I’m in imports and CBP focuses heavily on IPR (intellectual property rights), trademark violations and the like.Tradd, my Mother has an old boss she's kept in touch with over the years that can afford to travel often. This lady often travels to the third world and one of her pursuits is buying phony goods overseas. She got caught once by CBP and was allowed to keep all her phony goods and no fine was levied for the following reason (and please google and don't believe me - google is your friend here).
As a US citizen, you can legally bring in one (and only one) counterfeit good in a product class from outside of the country every 30 days and this must be on your person or in your luggage - not sent via mail or express mail service from overseas. By one good from each product class I mean one phony Rolex, one phony pair of shoes, one phony handbag, one phony Mount Blanc pen, one phony whatever. This is legal every 30 days....but if you are caught with two or more phony anything (of the same product class), US CBP can seize if they so desire. From what I've read online if you have two phony watches and you get a human CBP officer (as I did last time when US CBP let me reenter the US on just an Arizona State ID Card as I had my passport in my inner jacket pocket but forgot I had it there and thought I'd lost it) they will let you go with two phony watches but at three they suspect you are in it for resale and start getting nasty.
For the record, I'd love to find a phony Mount Blanc pen in Nogales or Algodones but to date never have. Rob
PS....I came back to add that the massive quantity importation of counterfeit merchandise however - far beyond an individual appearing at a US Port of Entry with a phony good or two in different product classes - now that is very much illegal from what I understand....and I'm guessing this is the counterfeit scenario you referred to in your post as illegal?
iris lilies
2-23-18, 8:14pm
Came back to add that I beg to differ with your post. The 85006 was one of the better represented zip codes during both the United Airlines protests last year (after the unfortunate Dr. Dao incident if you remember) and of the Wells Fargo protests the preceding year. Both cases show residents of the 85006 very much focused on the legalities of actions by both United Airlines and the Wells Fargo brand. We also sent three unemployed residents of the 85006 up to Salt Lake City to protest the Jeff Payne I'm A Cop So Therefore I Am Above The Law Fiasco that ended out netting victim Alex Wubbels a cool 500K - though I believe she settled far too cheaply, I would have been in it for no less than 7 million personally.....but of course that was not my call in this situation and Alex Wubbels is certainly free to settle for whatever amount she deems appropriate and acceptable.
The point? I have posted more than once of incidents in which residents of this barrio have very much focused on legalities and then went and did something constructive regarding the illegal actions of others. Rob
ahhh! Focused on legalities by others, and actions by others! Yes! Way to go 85006.
gimmethesimplelife
2-23-18, 8:19pm
ahhh! Focused on legalities by others, and actions by others! Yes! Way to go 85006.The assumption being that residents of the 85006 commit illegal acts and don't care? Or am I reading you wrong? For the record those I associate with in the 85006 are law abiding individuals......If I am reading your post here right (?) - and I'm not sure I am - if I am reading it right I'm glad I have no desire to "upgrade" my zip code unless it's to leave the US for good. If I'm reading you right (?), it's comments like this that make me proud to live in the 85006. Rob
What the heck does “exploitive markup” mean?
gimmethesimplelife
2-23-18, 8:27pm
ahhh! Focused on legalities by others, and actions by others! Yes! Way to go 85006.Have folks in your zip code organized protests against social injustice, IL? I can say that we have in the 85006.........I'm not thrilled about participating in zip code oneupmanship here - that said, however - I do live in a zip code where there are a goodly number of folks who will indeed protest social injustice. Can you say that? (and perhaps you can for all I know, I don't know your zip code and how life there goes).....my point is that the 85006 is far from being one dimensional. People here are not shy about calling America out for what it is and are not shy about standing up to this society when it goes too damned far. This makes me proud and I would not live in the midst of this were I to upgrade to the 85016 - a neigboring higher income zip code. Rob
flowerseverywhere
2-23-18, 9:48pm
In perspective, how much money do you save a year on toothpaste and shampoo? As opposed to putting quality checked items so close to your brain.
I buy buy all our household supplies and rarely are they on the list. We use 1/2 to 3/4 the recommended amount and squeeze every last bit out. A bar of soap lasts for months. I can’t imagine it would save $10 per year for two people.
iris lilies
2-23-18, 9:58pm
.....I'm not thrilled about participating in zip code oneupmanship here ...
And me even less since living in a zip code that protests “social injustices” isnt something
I care about.
gimmethesimplelife
2-23-18, 10:03pm
And me even less since living in a zip code that protests “social injustices” isnt something
I care about.Given the lessons I have learned in life and seeing this society the way my life experience has led me to, it would be a bit of a culture shock to live somewhere where people just look the other way and not protest injustice when and where they can. I just don't know if I'd be up to this adjustment at this point. Life somewhere where people don't call society out on it's BS sounds so soul depleting and depressing to me - though this is me, your mileage gets to vary and I understand that. Rob
gimmethesimplelife
2-23-18, 10:05pm
In perspective, how much money do you save a year on toothpaste and shampoo? As opposed to putting quality checked items so close to your brain.
I buy buy all our household supplies and rarely are they on the list. We use 1/2 to 3/4 the recommended amount and squeeze every last bit out. A bar of soap lasts for months. I can’t imagine it would save $10 per year for two people.Most of my toothpaste and shampoo I buy in Mexico when I go down to offshore whatever it is that I am offshoring. I end out paying comparable to what I would pay in Phoenix for US products - at least as far as toothpaste and shampoo go. Rob
flowerseverywhere
2-23-18, 10:26pm
Most of my toothpaste and shampoo I buy in Mexico when I go down to offshore whatever it is that I am offshoring. I end out paying comparable to what I would pay in Phoenix for US products - at least as far as toothpaste and shampoo go. Rob
why not just buy in Phoenix. Support American jobs and all.
flowerseverywhere
2-23-18, 10:41pm
Given the lessons I have learned in life and seeing this society the way my life experience has led me to, it would be a bit of a culture shock to live somewhere where people just look the other way and not protest injustice when and where they can. I just don't know if I'd be up to this adjustment at this point. Life somewhere where people don't call society out on it's BS sounds so soul depleting and depressing to me - though this is me, your mileage gets to vary and I understand that. Rob
Protesting social injustices is not confined to street marches, trying to take a picture so they can sue or a zip code. Every day people fight for children, women, and a host of causes but the focus is on making things better through empowering those who are the downtrodden. Every day in courtrooms, classrooms, hospital rooms, offices and countless other places people fight for what is right. There is such a huge contingent of people in my zip who are fighting tooth and nail to Help the less fortunate. One group I am in gave $41,000 to women’s shelters and retraining for battered women. My library volunteer work group brings more than that to the local schools for supplies, reading programs, and many volunteer as tutors. People actively working toward helping people escape poverty and lift themselves up.
Check out this organization some of my friends are working on.
http://www.sozokids.org/sozo-kids.html
Be the change you want to see.
Protesting social injustices is not confined to street marches, trying to take a picture so they can sue or a zip code. Every day people fight for children, women, and a host of causes but the focus is on making things better through empowering those who are the downtrodden. Every day in courtrooms, classrooms, hospital rooms, offices and countless other places people fight for what is right. There is such a huge contingent of people in my zip who are fighting tooth and nail to Help the less fortunate. One group I am in gave $41,000 to women’s shelters and retraining for battered women. My library volunteer work group brings more than that to the local schools for supplies, reading programs, and many volunteer as tutors. People actively working toward helping people escape poverty and lift themselves up.
Check out this organization some of my friends are working on.
http://www.sozokids.org/sozo-kids.html
Be the change you want to see.
In my opinion, fighting social injustices--in whatever way that we can--is among the most important things we do as human beings.
Given the lessons I have learned in life and seeing this society the way my life experience has led me to, it would be a bit of a culture shock to live somewhere where people just look the other way and not protest injustice when and where they can. I just don't know if I'd be up to this adjustment at this point. Life somewhere where people don't call society out on it's BS sounds so soul depleting and depressing to me - though this is me, your mileage gets to vary and I understand that. Rob
You seem to think that protesting is the only way to go. Do those in your zip code do more than that? Working a soup kitchen, food pantry, homeless shelter, tutoring, etc.? All I ever hear about is the protesting.
gimmethesimplelife
2-24-18, 11:11am
why not just buy in Phoenix. Support American jobs and all.Hi Flowerseverywhere! There is nothing about politics or protest on my part here - I just happen to like two varieties of Caprice Shampoo (Herbal and Apple) and also Freska-Ra toothpaste from Mexico. I also buy all my bee pollen and valerian root capsules in Mexico (much cheaper across the border) and I used to buy all my soap in Mexico but now I actually pay more for soap in the US, believe it or not - I know someone in the 85006 who makes soap as a side business and I want to support them in their entrepreneurship so I buy their spendier soap on this side of the border.
When I mop the floors at the house or clean the bathroom - I used Mexican made cleaners such as Pinalen or Pinol or Flash - I buy these in the US and they are still cheaper than US products and work just as well. The hair gel I use on days I work is also from Mexico - cheaper than similar in the US and it smells really nice. The brand I use is EGO - interesting name, no? It is male oriented brand - they make shampoo too. Rob
PS.....I came back to add that Mexico is a great place to stock up on toothbrushes - I paid .38 per toothbrush the last time I bought toothbrushes down there, and these were actually imported from Chile (the brand is Fasa) and not Mexican made.
gimmethesimplelife
2-24-18, 11:20am
You seem to think that protesting is the only way to go. Do those in your zip code do more than that? Working a soup kitchen, food pantry, homeless shelter, tutoring, etc.? All I ever hear about is the protesting.Tradd, hi! I very much agree that you have a point here. There are indeed other options here other than protesting, I'll give you that. In this neighborhood we protest first above other options - I believe this has something to do with how the police once treated residents in this area before we started standing up to them, and how the city has consistently blown off the 85006....case in point, we were pushing to have the city recognize most of this area as a historical district as many of the houses here are quite old for Phoenix and some are in decent shape such as the house I co-own that was built in 1930.
The city refused to designate parts of the 85006 as historic other than the Coronado area to the West of where I live - but this was already a Historic District, and for some time. There is a lot of resentment towards this to this day. Low incomes and unacceptable treatment by the Police and treated as if less than by the City? Why should the preference of protesting be any surprise to you given these givens? This is NOT a middle class area - those standards are not going to fly in the 85006 - say I (gratefully). Rob
gimmethesimplelife
2-24-18, 11:23am
Protesting social injustices is not confined to street marches, trying to take a picture so they can sue or a zip code. Every day people fight for children, women, and a host of causes but the focus is on making things better through empowering those who are the downtrodden. Every day in courtrooms, classrooms, hospital rooms, offices and countless other places people fight for what is right. There is such a huge contingent of people in my zip who are fighting tooth and nail to Help the less fortunate. One group I am in gave $41,000 to women’s shelters and retraining for battered women. My library volunteer work group brings more than that to the local schools for supplies, reading programs, and many volunteer as tutors. People actively working toward helping people escape poverty and lift themselves up.
Check out this organization some of my friends are working on.
http://www.sozokids.org/sozo-kids.html
Be the change you want to see.I agree with you here 100% in that protesting is not the only avenue to fight for what is right. I will give you that, Flowerseverywhere. Rob
gimmethesimplelife
2-24-18, 11:37am
In my opinion, fighting social injustices--in whatever way that we can--is among the most important things we do as human beings.I could not agree with you more here, Jane. +1,000,000. Rob
iris lilies
2-24-18, 11:44am
Tradd, hi! I very much agree that you have a point here. There are indeed other options here other than protesting, I'll give you that. In this neighborhood we protest first above other options - I believe this has something to do with how the police once treated residents in this area before we started standing up to them, and how the city has consistently blown off the 85006....case in point, we were pushing to have the city recognize most of this area as a historical district as many of the houses here are quite old for Phoenix and some are in decent shape such as the house I co-own that was built in 1930.
The city refused to designate parts of the 85006 as historic other than the Coronado area to the West of where I live - but this was already a Historic District, and for some time. There is a lot of resentment towards this to this day. Low incomes and unacceptable treatment by the Police and treated as if less than by the City? Why should the preference of protesting be any surprise to you given these givens? This is NOT a middle class area - those standards are not going to fly in the 85006 - say I (gratefully). Rob
With an Historic district comes architectural covenents, more rules and regs to follow and the poor here sometimes claim that as a burden on them.
I am surprised you want that. why? That would be inviting The Official Bureaucrats and their Henchmen (the Police and courts) further into your daily business. Again, why are you interested in that?
In another thread I talked about my neighbor who will be hauled into housing court in the near future if he doesnt fix up his property. While this isnt directly related to historic district requirements, he does like cheap and out of scope fixes. I am tired of his ugly ass air conditioning unit hanging out the front, his porch with no railings because they fell off, his peeling paint, his rotton porch dloor.
He tells me he has no time to fix it up because he works all the time.
flowerseverywhere
2-24-18, 5:33pm
I agree with you here 100% in that protesting is not the only avenue to fight for what is right. I will give you that, Flowerseverywhere. Rob
Plus protesting can backfire. BLM has done things like block highways, and it really gets people mad that are trying to lawfully go about their business. I have seen footage of police in a line with protesters taunting them, cameras at the ready, not obeying orders to leave an area. And then there are the people who start breaking windows and looting, which always backfires. Wasn’t it Baltimore that had riots and some stores, like pharmacies and grocers gave up and left, forcing citizens to travel for what they needed, certainly an unintended consequence. I often think it does more harm and puts the protesters, who often have a valid point, in a bad light, and can harm a community. Doing positive things, like mentoring or tutoring kids, working at soup kitchens and so on almost has a far better chance of effecting positive change.
ToomuchStuff
2-25-18, 12:48am
I can think of one counterfeit good I have bought. It was a dvd of a concert, that the is no longer available (released on VHS ONLY, never on DVD), and is one I rather enjoyed, that the band rather hated (it was right after the nasty breakup/lawsuit over the name). You could tell it was a recording of a decent, lightly played or new VHS tape.
I'd break it tomorrow if they actually released it on dvd.
Not much counterfeit would I ever have an interest in. This is something that brought joy to me at a low point in my life, and honestly I am not sure where I put the dvd, as a couple years ago, I put away several things from this period.
The closest I came to a Rolex, is a Rolex box I have from a friend who used to work on watches for a living. It is a dust collector that I should probably put on Ebay, since for some reason, people want stuff like that. Kind of like my piece of the Berlin wall brought back to me by my local football team, when they played the world bowl when the wall came down. No real need for it, or to get rid of it.
To answer the original question: No, not intentionally.
Generic substitutes for more expensive products? Absolutely.
To answer the original question: No, not intentionally.
Generic substitutes for more expensive products? Absolutely.
That is the most economically and ethically sound approach.
Although I will admit I do have preferred brands of whiskey, power tools, potato chips and automobiles.
With an Historic district comes architectural covenents, more rules and regs to follow and the poor here sometimes claim that as a burden on them.
I am surprised you want that. why? That would be inviting The Official Bureaucrats and their Henchmen (the Police and courts) further into your daily business. Again, why are you interested in that?
I had that same thought. "Preserving the character of the neighborhood" can be an effective tool for driving out and excluding low-income people. It's one reason so many progressive bastions have such high levels of inequality.
I had that same thought. "Preserving the character of the neighborhood" can be an effective tool for driving out and excluding low-income people. It's one reason so many progressive bastions have such high levels of inequality.
Don't get me started on the ridiculousness of the difficulty of building new homes in San Francisco. After living here ten years I've come to the conclusion that it will never get better unless the tech economy craters again ala dot.com bust 2001. We'll be moving out of this city once we reach retirement.
Don't get me started on the ridiculousness of the difficulty of building new homes in San Francisco. After living here ten years I've come to the conclusion that it will never get better unless the tech economy craters again ala dot.com bust 2001. We'll be moving out of this city once we reach retirement.
That's why I thought it odd that not being granted historical district status would be among Rob's list of grievances against American civilization. I would expect social justice warriors to be out blocking the tech company buses rather than essentially demanding prettier, more costly housing.
iris lilies
2-26-18, 11:14am
That's why I thought it odd that not being granted historical district status would be among Rob's list of grievances against American civilization. I would expect social justice warriors to be out blocking the tech company buses rather than essentially demanding prettier, more costly housing.
And, currently, 91% of For Sale houses listed in the 85006 are more expensive than the value I put on my own house.
The OP does a poor job of being a poor man from the “lower classes.”
That's why I thought it odd that not being granted historical district status would be among Rob's list of grievances against American civilization. I would expect social justice warriors to be out blocking the tech company buses rather than essentially demanding prettier, more costly housing.
Indeed. We have a bizarre combination of both wealthier and poorer people doing all they can to block new construction in their neighborhoods. And routine hassles against the tech buses. Just this weekend I was talking to a guy who lives in SF and works down in Cupertino who told me that all the tech buses have been taking the 101 instead of the 280 for the past couple of weeks (worse traffic, much slower) because someone has been hiding in the woods along the 280 and shooting a pellet gun at the buses.
flowerseverywhere
2-26-18, 12:49pm
And, currently, 91% of For Sale houses listed in the 85006 are more expensive than the value I put on my own house.
The OP does a poor job of being a poor man from the “lower classes.”
you’re killing me. Who would have thought.
And, currently, 91% of For Sale houses listed in the 85006 are more expensive than the value I put on my own house.
The OP does a poor job of being a poor man from the “lower classes.”
To be fair, if Rob was from the mission district of san framcisco it would be likely that every house for sale in his neighborhood was at least 3x the value of your house.
Goodness, I looked up this zipcode on Zillow and the houses cost five times what my house cost. I did not feel poor until I looked at the prices in 85006!! What the heck is going on in that neighborhood to justify these prices??
To be fair, if Rob was from the mission district of san framcisco it would be likely that every house for sale in his neighborhood was at least 3x the value of your house.
It's been some years since I visited, but I can remember being struck by how some of the country's most expensive real estate could be lining streets that smelled like urine.
I've never thought about it. But obviously the store is selling a lie and lying to the consumer is a no-no, IMHO. It's dishonesty on a corporate level. What makes the dollar store's lie nobler than the lies of any other corporate entity? Is this a Robin Hood scenario? Rob from the corporate brands and give to the poor? Personally, I don't see it that way.
iris lilies
2-26-18, 5:06pm
Goodness, I looked up this zipcode on Zillow and the houses cost five times what my house cost. I did not feel poor until I looked at the prices in 85006!! What the heck is going on in that neighborhood to justify these prices??
I can think of smart ass answers, But obviously, Phoenix is a higher cost of living place than I would have guessed. A good place to have purchased realestate some time ago, and itmay generate wealth for fleeing.
Teacher Terry
2-27-18, 1:51pm
I would not buy counterfeit goods knowingly. Interesting about the cost of housing where Rob lives. Plus doesn't Rob have half ownership in a house there so he has more wealth then he thinks.
gimmethesimplelife
4-10-18, 5:11pm
Goodness, I looked up this zipcode on Zillow and the houses cost five times what my house cost. I did not feel poor until I looked at the prices in 85006!! What the heck is going on in that neighborhood to justify these prices??Finally getting back to address this issue......parts of the 85006 are being gentrified and property values are going up up up up up and away. Thankfully we have low property tax rates in Arizona but.....property values are increasing to the point to where some folks are selling and fleeing on their gains.
For my part, after having lived in Phoenix for years, I know Phoenix to be a boom/bust town in regards to residential real estate. We are now in the boom phase is all - it never lasts in Phoenix, though. Rob
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