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frugal-one
3-22-18, 5:06pm
Stock market is now down over 725 points. He has attorneys quitting and cannot hire new. Gosh, I wonder why? He truly is a moron. He needs to get out of office.
Teacher Terry
3-22-18, 5:12pm
I doubt Pence will be any better. They both need to go as does Ryan.
Williamsmith
3-22-18, 5:30pm
Trump is like being dealt suited connectors in hold em’ Poker. The potential for a big hand but odds are a loser. Maybe the 1% will bail us out this time.....they owe us big time for 2008!
frugal-one
3-22-18, 5:39pm
Trump is like being dealt suited connectors in hold em’ Poker. The potential for a big hand but odds are a loser. Maybe the 1% will bail us out this time.....they owe us big time for 2008!
Explain.... what are you talking about?
I was reading an editorial article in the Christian Science Monitor about China’s intellectual theft and the impact on general society and jobs loss which is into billions of $$$. It helped make sense to me anyway.
Source:https://www.csmonitor.com/Daily/2018/20180322?cmpid=ema:ddp:20180322
Quote:
"President Trump’s decision to penalize China for stealing American intellectual property could have a big side effect. It may nudge China to better honor a global system that encourages individuals who invent a widget or create a great work to flourish. Many in China may actually welcome this US move. In recent years, Chinese companies have won intellectual property cases against their competitors. New legal protections have helped create a burst of innovation. China accounts for most of the billions of dollars the US economy loses annually to theft of its trade secrets. Correcting that will definitely help the United States. But most of all it will restore the integrity of global trading rules that rely on the idea that all humanity benefits when individuals can safely earn perks from their discoveries."
The lawyer situation indicates that powerful people don’t appreciate Trump’s lack of respect and his tweet abuse. Why would anyone set his/herself up for that?
Public radio interviewed someone on today's news who speculated that China may interfere with the next presidential election to get rid of Trump. While he was serious, I could not resist chuckling.
T basically owns the economy right now and it's a big experiment. When you deport much of the cheap labor, pump a tax stimulus into the economy when it is doing fairly well, set records for national debt, and impose tariffs on major imports, which could start a trade war, I'm not seeing a bright future.
Protectionism is what helped him get some Bernie voters. The Democrats should remember that. Wall Street is taking a hit today. Hillary Clinton was their candidate.
frugal-one
3-22-18, 7:45pm
Protectionism is what helped him get some Bernie voters. The Democrats should remember that. Wall Street is taking a hit today. Hillary Clinton was their candidate.
Wall Street is taking a hit today because Trump is a moron.
gimmethesimplelife
3-22-18, 7:46pm
Wall Street is taking a hit today because Trump is a moron.Agreed +1,000,000 and then some. Rob
gimmethesimplelife
3-22-18, 7:49pm
Stock market is now down over 725 points. He has attorneys quitting and cannot hire new. Gosh, I wonder why? He truly is a moron. He needs to get out of office.At this point, seriously....realistically, is anyone of quality going to willingly serve in the Trump Administration as a replacement to someone outgoing? I don't see this Presidency ending well but at least whenever Mr. Trump is out of office I have something nice to wear as I've posted before. Rob
Wall Street is taking a hit today because Trump is a moron.
But this can help him with all the voters who don't have any money in stocks and resent having had to bail out the too big to fail banks. There is a political calculus that is un-moronic enough it got him elected.
At this point, seriously....realistically, is anyone of quality going to willingly serve in the Trump Administration as a replacement to someone outgoing?
We were talking about this over dinner last night.
Wife asked me: "If the phone rang, and Trump was offering you Name_The_Great_Position, would you take it?"
Me: "Not a chance in hell. Why would anyone of good moral character work for this guy?"
I mean, you could delude yourself into thinking, early on in the administration, that you might be able to limit the damage, or direct things towards reasonable solutions. I have friends who did that, none of them lasted more than a few months before they withdrew out of disgust.
#on_strike
So - who are they going to the blame higher prices on when they hit the stores? This is basically going to be a $60 billion tax on consumers. While it's playing out on Wall Street today, once it gets going it will be playing out in the stores and consumer's wallets.
Maybe more folks will buy American - not that they can more afford it, but because they can no longer afford Chinese products, either.
When you deport much of the cheap labor, pump a tax stimulus into the economy when it is doing fairly well, set records for national debt, and impose tariffs on major imports, which could start a trade war, I'm not seeing a bright future.
I'm seeing a recipe for jobs, free of competition from immigrants, with reduced competition from abroad, in manufacturing for people with a high school education or less. It's a dying field due to robotics, but it has short-term political appeal that the more affluent classes are not seeing.
So - who are they going to the blame higher prices on when they hit the stores? This is basically going to be a $60 billion tax on consumers. While it's playing out on Wall Street today, once it gets going it will be playing out in the stores and consumer's wallets.
Maybe more folks will buy American - not that they can more afford it, but because they can no longer afford Chinese products, either.
But there is hardly anything left anymore that is made American. If we really wanted to shut China down, we'd quit consuming so much crap that is made there. (Along with even more essential things). What a mess.
I really believe that Trump is ignorant of how anything works. Also......he just loves setting fires and stepping back and watching it all burn. "Moron" is too nice of a word for him.
ApatheticNoMore
3-22-18, 10:06pm
But this can help him with all the voters who don't have any money in stocks and resent having had to bail out the too big to fail banks.
this is probably the majority of the country, those who don't have money in stocks.
I'm seeing a recipe for jobs, free of competition from immigrants, with reduced competition from abroad, in manufacturing for people with a high school education or less. It's a dying field due to robotics, but it has short-term political appeal that the more affluent classes are not seeing.
if it's a dying field due to robotics so are most middle class jobs, at least according to many predictions (or well if not robotics AI maybe). Mostly reducing immigrants might provide some jobs but it's too late probably to put the globalization genie back in the bottle (which cost more jobs than immigrants anyway). But it's not like anyone has any better ideas, or well it's not like the political class has any better ideas.
dado potato
3-23-18, 1:02am
I agree with creaker that the effect of each tariff is to raise prices to consumers, while increasing revenues to the federal government.
New tariffs targeting China (or "punishing" China for theft of intellectual property) also invite retaliation. As the saying goes, "If you want a trade war, you will get one."
People are more interested in the price of the cheap Chinese stuff. These same people complain about Walmart closing down the mom and pop stores, but the same people were at Walmart buying the cheap stuff.
if the price of China stuff goes up it doesn’t bother me. Maybe it will make some local stuff more competitive. I still buy made in the USA when I can.
I doubt Pence will be any better. They both need to go as does Ryan.
yes, yes, yes. Ryan is bad news for average Americans. Every time his mouth opens he is trying to take something away from us.
frugal-one
3-23-18, 8:10pm
But this can help him with all the voters who don't have any money in stocks and resent having had to bail out the too big to fail banks. There is a political calculus that is un-moronic enough it got him elected.
This is not just about stocks. Causing or instigating a trade war will raise prices on many things. You can say what you want but it is moronic!
frugal-one
3-23-18, 8:16pm
yes, yes, yes. Ryan is bad news for average Americans. Every time his mouth opens he is trying to take something away from us.
A yes man for Trump!
This is not just about stocks. Causing or instigating a trade war will raise prices on many things. You can say what you want but it is moronic!
There will be both winners and losers in a trade war. Not everyone will lose or Trump would not do it.
frugal-one
3-23-18, 8:22pm
There will be both winners and losers in a trade war. Not everyone will lose or Trump would not do it.
You give him too much credit. A man who admits he does not like to read and just gets his news from tv is not too bright. He admittedly does not take advice from people more knowledgeable. He is doing more harm than good on many fronts! ...
Yes, more will be hurt than helped, but the group that will be helped have for decades felt left behind and betrayed by both neoliberals and neoconservatives. Trump tapped into their feelings and is keeping a campaign promise to them since they elected him. Just because you may be a loser under this policy does not make Trump a moron.
Lying about Stormy Daniels if there's a sex tape - now that's moronic (as was Clinton lying about Monica Lewinsky when there was a blue dress).
frugal-one
3-24-18, 12:19pm
Yes, more will be hurt than helped, but the group that will be helped have for decades felt left behind and betrayed by both neoliberals and neoconservatives. Trump tapped into their feelings and is keeping a campaign promise to them since they elected him. Just because you may be a loser under this policy does not make Trump a moron.
Lying about Stormy Daniels if there's a sex tape - now that's moronic (as was Clinton lying about Monica Lewinsky when there was a blue dress).
You need to read up on the Labor Laws that are now abolished altered in favor of big business. Overtime and minimum wage provisions that help the lower class are made so that corporations are not required to pay. Regulation 541... check it out. You seem to think Trump is for the average guy but you are mistaken! Now, as an example, wait staff tips can be kept by the employer and doled out as they deem fit as long as the person makes minimum wage.
I am not hurt financially by Trump yet. Also, not all people who are in the stock market are wealthy as you indicated previously. Many people have money in their 401Ks that are affected and I would bet the majority of them are not wealthy or affluent.
As far as women and Trump. He boasts about grabbing crotches. Stormy Daniels and how MANY other women have spoken out against him? Yes, Monica L. was one woman. Trump has many women lined up to speak against him.
There will be both winners and losers in a trade war. Not everyone will lose or Trump would not do it.
You are giving Trump more credit than me. Trump is blundering through this using some sort of tough guy America first story line, but I doubt that he has any idea of the consequences down the road. He can use his typical half-truths or deceptions to convince some segment of his following that things are great and huge. However, I don't think his big money supporters are going to be happy if the stock market tanks.
As far as women and Trump. He boasts about grabbing crotches. Stormy Daniels and how MANY other women have spoken out against him? Yes, Monica L. was one woman. Trump has many women lined up to speak against him.
They say that history is written by the victors so I suppose it's natural for people to only remember what society's rulers want them to. In reality, Monica L. was not just one woman, she was one of many. It's a shame that influential people such as Gloria Steinem, Betty Friedan and various members of The View stake their reputations on minimizing and condemning accusations against a favored offender, and a greater shame that it works.
ApatheticNoMore
3-24-18, 1:52pm
You need to read up on the Labor Laws that are now abolished altered in favor of big business. Overtime and minimum wage provisions that help the lower class are made so that corporations are not required to pay. Regulation 541... check it out.
whatever you are talking about is so obscure that even a search engine doesn't turn it up (searching 541 and trump). Provide links if you are arguing people need to read up on stuff when the information is not readily available. Now what I think you might be referencing is the Obama admin passing a law to extend overtime, and Trump not appealing a judge having blocked it. The Obama administration seemed to pass an awful lot of laws very late in Obama's term (set to go into effect in Dec 2016 - it could not be more last minute). Which makes a lot of people wonder if these laws weren't just meant to be easily overturned by a future administration (of course noone knew it would be Trump). It is a reason for some cynicism I think, although intent is hard to prove. But he had 8 years and 4 where he wasn't even up for reelection and only diddled with this to go into effect on Dec 2016. Things that make you go hmm.
You seem to think Trump is for the average guy but you are mistaken! Now, as an example, wait staff tips can be kept by the employer and doled out as they deem fit as long as the person makes minimum wage.
he's not for the average guy but he spoke to some average guys noone else was speaking to and some people might benefit from less immigration. However I'm not sure people struggling financially are his base as actually his base is doing ok financially. But those struggling average guys are some of those who maybe pushed him over the margin of electoral college victory.
I am not hurt financially by Trump yet. Also, not all people who are in the stock market are wealthy as you indicated previously. Many people have money in their 401Ks that are affected and I would bet the majority of them are not wealthy or affluent.
it skews toward the affluent. About 49-52% of American households own stocks in any way (including in 401ks). So about 1/2 the population really has NO stake in the stock market (in the broader economy yes, but not in the stock market).
"Like income and wealth, stock ownership is heavily concentrated in the uppermost echelons of the economy. The bottom 60 percent of households combined own just 1.8 percent of American stock. The top 1 percent, by contrast, owns over 40 percent of the country's stock, up from 34 percent in 2001."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/12/18/for-roughly-half-of-americans-the-stock-markets-record-highs-dont-help-at-all/
I have a 401k, but I say if it upsets your sleep that much: don't do it (but there is a cost for that too).
They say that history is written by the victors so I suppose it's natural for people to only remember what society's rulers want them to. In reality, Monica L. was not just one woman, she was one of many. It's a shame that influential people such as Gloria Steinem, Betty Friedan and various members of The View stake their reputations on minimizing and condemning accusations against a favored offender, and a greater shame that it works.
To be sure there are plenty of crappy men on every part of the political spectrum. The difference, at least to me, is that only one party has presented itself aggressively as the "family values"/morality party for the past 40 years or so. But as this presidency plays out that seems to not actually be of any importance to the supporters of that party who most aggressively spewed about its importance. The level of hypocrisy is breathtaking.
frugal-one
3-24-18, 4:08pm
They say that history is written by the victors so I suppose it's natural for people to only remember what society's rulers want them to. In reality, Monica L. was not just one woman, she was one of many. It's a shame that influential people such as Gloria Steinem, Betty Friedan and various members of The View stake their reputations on minimizing and condemning accusations against a favored offender, and a greater shame that it works.
Sounds as though you condone Trump's crotch-clutching ways!
frugal-one
3-24-18, 4:13pm
whatever you are talking about is so obscure that even a search engine doesn't turn it up (searching 541 and trump). Provide links if you are arguing people need to read up on stuff when the information is not readily available. Now what I think you might be referencing is the Obama admin passing a law to extend overtime, and Trump not appealing a judge having blocked it. The Obama administration seemed to pass an awful lot of laws very late in Obama's term (set to go into effect in Dec 2016 - it could not be more last minute). Which makes a lot of people wonder if these laws weren't just meant to be easily overturned by a future administration (of course noone knew it would be Trump). It is a reason for some cynicism I think, although intent is hard to prove. But he had 8 years and 4 where he wasn't even up for reelection and only diddled with this to go into effect on Dec 2016. Things that make you go hmm.
he's not for the average guy but he spoke to some average guys noone else was speaking to and some people might benefit from less immigration. However I'm not sure people struggling financially are his base as actually his base is doing ok financially. But those struggling average guys are some of those who maybe pushed him over the margin of electoral college victory.
it skews toward the affluent. About 49-52% of American households own stocks in any way (including in 401ks). So about 1/2 the population really has NO stake in the stock market (in the broader economy yes, but not in the stock market).
"Like income and wealth, stock ownership is heavily concentrated in the uppermost echelons of the economy. The bottom 60 percent of households combined own just 1.8 percent of American stock. The top 1 percent, by contrast, owns over 40 percent of the country's stock, up from 34 percent in 2001."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/12/18/for-roughly-half-of-americans-the-stock-markets-record-highs-dont-help-at-all/
I have a 401k, but I say if it upsets your sleep that much: don't do it (but there is a cost for that too).
Read the last paragraph.
https://www.dol.gov/whd/overtime/final2016/
Sounds as though you condone Trump's crotch-clutching ways!
And you came up with that conclusion how?
frugal-one
3-25-18, 2:24pm
And you came up with that conclusion how?
Based on your previous response, as well as, no denial of same. We all know you are a Trump fan and, seemingly, abides by all that he does.
Based on your previous response, as well as, no denial of same. We all know you are a Trump fan and, seemingly, abides by all that he does.
There must be some sort of weird alchemy taking place after I respond to something and before you read it. Maybe rogue pixels?
Teacher Terry
3-25-18, 3:07pm
I was a Bill Clinton fan but not a fan of his womanizing. I think it is a pretty big leap to assume all Trump supporters are disrespectful of women.
Based on your previous response, as well as, no denial of same. We all know you are a Trump fan and, seemingly, abides by all that he does.
Seems like a personal attack to me... I have never seen Alan in all these years express support for crotch-grabbing or similar misogynistic behavior.
We all know you are a Trump fan and, seemingly, abides by all that he does.
I think it is a pretty big leap to assume all Trump supporters are disrespectful of women.
It's an even bigger leap to assume that anyone not exhibiting the proper level of hate to their favored nemesis must be an ardent supporter.
Seems like a personal attack to me...
Maybe, but hate has to find an outlet somewhere dontcha think? Words directed at someone unbothered by the content doesn't harm the target nearly as much as they do the attacker.
I would think that trade policies are a very complicated thing for the average person to understand. I scratch my head a lot about why so much is made in China and other foreign countries. It irks me that just about every single thing I have bought to fix up this house is made in China. Is there a correlation between that and the vast number of homeless standing around? Are these goods being made in factories with robots or people? Isn't it expensive and polluting to have container ships going back and forth?
Teacher Terry
3-25-18, 5:28pm
Alan, you are absolutely right. I don't think you have ever said who you support. PT: they estimate that 75% of mentally ill people are homeless. Many times they try to self-medicate their illness with alcohol or drugs. We never had many homeless people until REagan closed the psychiatric hospitals and other facilities to treat them. A person with a mental illness must be medically stabilized before they can work and then the right type of job must be found so it doesn't make their illness worse. For instance, some can't work well with people so you would help them find a job where this is not an issue, etc. When I worked for the state vocational rehabilitation program this is one of the populations that we served and one of the most difficult disabilities to be able to keep a job.
As an old-timey conservative, I take a dim view of protectionism. I think they ultimately do more harm than good. I do think China has been waging one against the West for some time, however.
Also as an old-timely conservative, I take a dim view of people who violate “traditional morality” in the crotch-grabbing sense. That’s why I disapprove of the various lugubrious antics of people like Clinton or Trump. But I can’t help but be amused when the it’s-just-sex crowd decides to call people out based on a standard they have sneered at in the past.
I can understand their frustration. Failing to shame a shameless man, they look for others to attack.
ApatheticNoMore
3-25-18, 6:52pm
I suspect housing cost has at least a tiny little bit to do with homelessness. And much of the rise of homeless is MUCH more recent than Reagan. It's the last decade. It is also to some degree a *global* problem. The world gets more urban, people stream into urban centers, housing costs rise for this or other reasons etc.. The UK has a homeless problem, Europe has a homeless problem.
I fully realize that Finland's size and population are much smaller but they have made huge strides in solving the homeless challenges.
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2018/0321/Finland-s-homeless-crisis-nearly-solved.-How-By-giving-homes-to-all-who-need
MARCH 21, 2018 HELSINKI, FINLAND—As anyone who has visited Europe recently can attest, the scourge of homelessness has reached epidemic proportions.
The only exception to the trend is Finland, according to FEANTSA, the European Federation of National Organizations Working with the Homeless. There, homelessness is, remarkably, on the decline.
Around 10 years ago, however, observers noticed that although homelessness in general was declining, long-term homelessness was not. A new approach to the problem was called for, along with a new philosophy.
The optimal solution, a group of four experts appointed by the Ministry of the Environment found, was Housing First. “Solving social and health problems is not a prerequisite for arranging housing,” they observed. “Instead, housing is a prerequisite that will also enable solving a homeless person’s other problems.”
The concept behind the new approach was not original; it was already in selective use in the US as part of the Pathways Model pioneered by Dr. Sam Tsemberis in the 1990s to help former psychiatric patients. What was different, and historic, about the Finnish Housing First model was a willingness to enact the model on a nationwide basis.
frugal-one
3-25-18, 7:32pm
I was a Bill Clinton fan but not a fan of his womanizing. I think it is a pretty big leap to assume all Trump supporters are disrespectful of women.
I do not think all are disrespectful of women. The way I read Alan's post and he still he does not negate what I have said. It is an honest conclusion.
I do not think all are disrespectful of women. The way I read Alan's post and he still he does not negate what I have said. It is an honest conclusion.
It is a dishonest statement, question, and conclusion.
“Have you stopped beating your wife?”
The way I read Alan's post and he still he does not negate what I have said. It is an honest conclusion.It is a conclusion, but there may have been some liberties taken on the honest part.
I'm reminded of a fellow I once knew who had moles in his yard. He was convinced that a local business that specialized in the live capture of moles in a client's yard was disposing of the live catch in his yard late at night. There was no evidence of this, but he got it into his head and it wouldn't leave. I suppose that since the mole catcher never swore an oath that he wasn't doing this it might be true, but I believe this fellow had his own truth and no oath would have sufficed anyway. People are funny that way.
frugal-one
3-25-18, 8:59pm
It is a conclusion, but there may have been some liberties taken on the honest part.
I'm reminded of a fellow I once knew who had moles in his yard. He was convinced that a local business that specialized in the live capture of moles in a client's yard was disposing of the live catch in his yard late at night. There was no evidence of this, but he got it into his head and it wouldn't leave. I suppose that since the mole catcher never swore an oath that he wasn't doing this it might be true, but I believe this fellow had his own truth and no oath would have sufficed anyway. People are funny that way.
Not a relative analogy. My point earlier was ... you still do not answer the question. You always come back with some nonsensical or unrelated response. You have proven my point.
Not a relative analogy. My point earlier was ... you still do not answer the question. You always come back with some nonsensical or unrelated response. You have proven my point.
Was there a question buried somewhere in those statements and accusations? I suppose I may have missed it while concentrating on proving your point.
I fully realize that Finland's size and population are much smaller but they have made huge strides in solving the homeless challenges.
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2018/0321/Finland-s-homeless-crisis-nearly-solved.-How-By-giving-homes-to-all-who-need
MARCH 21, 2018 HELSINKI, FINLAND—As anyone who has visited Europe recently can attest, the scourge of homelessness has reached epidemic proportions.
The only exception to the trend is Finland, according to FEANTSA, the European Federation of National Organizations Working with the Homeless. There, homelessness is, remarkably, on the decline.
Around 10 years ago, however, observers noticed that although homelessness in general was declining, long-term homelessness was not. A new approach to the problem was called for, along with a new philosophy.
The optimal solution, a group of four experts appointed by the Ministry of the Environment found, was Housing First. “Solving social and health problems is not a prerequisite for arranging housing,” they observed. “Instead, housing is a prerequisite that will also enable solving a homeless person’s other problems.”
The concept behind the new approach was not original; it was already in selective use in the US as part of the Pathways Model pioneered by Dr. Sam Tsemberis in the 1990s to help former psychiatric patients. What was different, and historic, about the Finnish Housing First model was a willingness to enact the model on a nationwide basis.
They had a pilot program like this in Seattle; the conclusion was, IIRC, that it was successful. People who feel secure in their housing can gather themselves to solve other problems. As far as I know, it was abandoned in favor of something like "You're on your own, kid."
I fully realize that Finland's size and population are much smaller but they have made huge strides in solving the homeless challenges.
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2018/0321/Finland-s-homeless-crisis-nearly-solved.-How-By-giving-homes-to-all-who-need
MARCH 21, 2018 HELSINKI, FINLAND—As anyone who has visited Europe recently can attest, the scourge of homelessness has reached epidemic proportions.
The only exception to the trend is Finland, according to FEANTSA, the European Federation of National Organizations Working with the Homeless. There, homelessness is, remarkably, on the decline.
Around 10 years ago, however, observers noticed that although homelessness in general was declining, long-term homelessness was not. A new approach to the problem was called for, along with a new philosophy.
The optimal solution, a group of four experts appointed by the Ministry of the Environment found, was Housing First. “Solving social and health problems is not a prerequisite for arranging housing,” they observed. “Instead, housing is a prerequisite that will also enable solving a homeless person’s other problems.”
The concept behind the new approach was not original; it was already in selective use in the US as part of the Pathways Model pioneered by Dr. Sam Tsemberis in the 1990s to help former psychiatric patients. What was different, and historic, about the Finnish Housing First model was a willingness to enact the model on a nationwide basis.
That sounds entirely rational. THe problem with trying to implement anything like that in the US is that neither the left nor the right will like it. The right will be up in arms about giving housing to "lazy people" and both sides won't agree to giving housing to people without micromanaging people's lives, putting unrealistic goals on continuing support and so forth. And along the way we'll continue to impose rules that make it impossible to build truly cheap but profitable housing for people at the very bottom of the economic spectrum. So we'll undoubtedly continue to have a homeless problem for the foreseeable future.
My community is looking at starting something similar to Housing First. The local governments are applying for federal grants, partnering with nonprofits, and I think it will come to be in the next three years are so.
I saw the other day that you can now build a house with a 3D printer. But what are the chances that cheap housing will be allowed by the construction industry, zoning boards, etc.? The argument will be it's not safe during earthquakes and the like, as if living in the streets is safe.
Teacher Terry
3-26-18, 12:10pm
ANM: one of my professional journals arrived in my in box today and you are right that rising rents is contributing to the homeless factor. It could easily be the other 25% of the population. Without a stable living environment is is difficult to help people fix their other issues. Madison, WI is using tiny homes to help with this problem.
iris lily
3-26-18, 12:23pm
I do not understand the obsession with “tiny homes” for solving societal ills. Never will understand it .
It is ridiculous to build stand alone units with 4 walls when shared walls are economical in many ways, initial building costs and heat/colling especially. Like in an apartment complex, ya know? Also, does ANYONE actually care about the environment? The construction industry consumes many more resources of the earth than any gas guzzling car. Drive as many Prius autos as you like, but continue to advocate for tiny houses? Seems incomgrous to me.
Maybe someone here can explain it succnctly, at least partially, why “tiny homes” are the answer to homelessness.
With many of the homeless being mentally incapacitaed in some way, I also do not understand why this community expects them to care for a stand alone structure and grounds.
My screed above doesnt mean I don't like tiny homes, they are indeed fascinating. But for god’s sake, be realistic about their cost and function. They are experiments in living for well healed hipsters and people wanting trendy second homes.
Teacher Terry
3-26-18, 12:31pm
In Madison it is a tiny home village with the homes right next to each other. It is meant to be a community and social services are offered to help people reclaim their lives. For some it will mean jobs and for others too mentally ill to work applying for SSDI, etc. So it's not like they will have a home/yard to take care of. I am assuming cost is a factor here as they can put many of them in a smaller space. But you are right that apartments also fit this criteria.
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